manchi_babu Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 [quote name='computaboi' timestamp='1348002740' post='1302499541'] @30 years industry, #post101 hey boss thanks for your message, naku nuvve cheppe points digest ayyayi kaka however I am trying to understand if & why's of it I think I may not have phrased my question very well as I should have.. Naku ni first reply tarvata ardam aindi sharing ki NAS, dedicated storage to a single server ki SAN use chestaru ani, naku ardam kanidi emitante SAN lo enduku support cheyatledu sharing ni whilst NAS support chestunte ? Obviously having flexibility to share your data across multiple servers is an advantage right ? I mean like in terminal servers, where multiple users can access same data with out corrupting the existing data. How did NAS manage to provide sharing feature but not SAN ? inka ippudunna SAN infrastructures lo FC-AL topology vadutunnara ekkadaina? [/quote] [b]SAN:- Storage Area Network(BLOCK level)[/b] oka 8GB [b]LUN(HYPER[/b]) ni oka windows server ki assign chesinapudu,, aa oka server matramey aa 8GB LUN ni access chestundi..mana storage side nunchi adi enta utliize chesaru anadi teliyadu,, but Windows Admin dani meda file system create chestey apudu LOCAL Drive laga Server ki kanipistadi..for example adey 8GB LUN 2 servers ki visible avali antey.. aa 2 server CLUSTER ayi undali,, ie either ACTIVE/ACTIVE or ACTIVE/PASSIVE, depends on the database instances running.. [b]NAS:-Network Attached Storage(File level)[/b] Oka 8GB [b]volume(not LUN)[/b] ni 4 users use cheyali antey,,,this is the process we use to follow. ekadayina storage drive meda ayitey files untayi leka potey folders untayi..so all the files will be stored in some directory. at the same time directory must be part of other directory(which is called as[b] QTREE[/b]),, bunch of qtrees together called as [b]QUOTA[/b]..so ne degara unda 8GB volume meda eni qtrees kavali antey ani create chesukoni aa users ids ki assign cheyali(ie [b]USERID(UID[/b]) or [b]GROUPID(GID)[/b]), ikada NAS lo manaki 8GB volume lo enta utilize ayindi anedi telusatadi.. boss:- niku nenu chepindi clear ga lekapotey chepu..inka clear ga cheputa... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girishv Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 [quote name='computaboi' timestamp='1348002740' post='1302499541'] @30 years industry, #post101 hey boss thanks for your message, naku nuvve cheppe points digest ayyayi kaka however I am trying to understand if & why's of it I think I may not have phrased my question very well as I should have.. Naku ni first reply tarvata ardam aindi sharing ki NAS, dedicated storage to a single server ki SAN use chestaru ani, naku ardam kanidi emitante SAN lo enduku support cheyatledu sharing ni whilst NAS support chestunte ? Obviously having flexibility to share your data across multiple servers is an advantage right ? I mean like in terminal servers, where multiple users can access same data with out corrupting the existing data. How did NAS manage to provide sharing feature but not SAN ? inka ippudunna SAN infrastructures lo FC-AL topology vadutunnara ekkadaina? [/quote] [b]SAN: [/b]manam zone chesina dani batti visibility untundi....usually oka lun ki oka server ke isthamu...vere servers ki kuda visibility undali ante manchi_babu cheppinattu avi clustered ayi undali (making sure only one of them is writing data to it) [b]NAS: [/b]ikkada volumes create chesthamu, volumes lo qtrees (oka volume lo 255 qtrees create chesukovachu)....simply, volumes ante folders anuko....qtrees ante sub-folders anuko....it is not mandatory to create a qtree for NFS export....CIFS shares ki matram qtree create chesthamu volumes, qtrees at the same time entha mandi ayina access cheyachu...(i mean permission unna vallu)....kani files ni oka sari okkade open cheya galugutharu..... logic is simple, SAN lo LUNS ni NAS lo files tho compare chesuko....oka sari okkare access cheyachu....volumes n qtrees ni endhuku chala mandi oke sare access cheyachu ante...volume n qtree lo data ledu (cheppa kada volumes and qtrees ni windows lo folders and subfolders anuko ani.....) volume and qtree lo unde files lo undi data.... inka doubt unte....let us know....either me or manchi_babu can ans ur questions.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manchi_babu Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 [quote name='CITI' timestamp='1348197014' post='1302513499'] [img]http://i54.tinypic.com/30nb56x.gif[/img] [/quote] [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/gulabi.sharabi.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavan_613 Posted September 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 [quote name='manchi_babu' timestamp='1348197174' post='1302513518'] [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/gulabi.sharabi.gif[/img] [/quote] emanna vblock docs untey choodu mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchi_babu Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 [quote name='CITI' timestamp='1348197661' post='1302513572'] emanna vblock docs untey choodu mama [/quote] sare ne kosam support.emc.com lo chsui vasta.. [img]http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/2123762/hs-beating-db-member-o.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavan_613 Posted September 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 [quote name='manchi_babu' timestamp='1348197801' post='1302513590'] sare ne kosam support.emc.com lo chsui vasta.. [img]http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/2123762/hs-beating-db-member-o.gif[/img] [/quote] [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/gulabi.sharabi.gif[/img] naaku kuda undhi dhantlo account [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/gulabi.sharabi.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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computaboi Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 @30 years Industry and Machi babu Thanks a ton guys it now makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manchi_babu Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 [quote name='computaboi' timestamp='1348473564' post='1302529923'] @30 years Industry and Machi babu Thanks a ton guys it now makes sense to me. [/quote] Thanks denike ley boss, lite tesuko.. mana 30 years industry ,, doubts adagamantunadu kabati na doubt adugutuna... ee SAN/NAS technology lo Ada Ladies kanipincharu enti.. nenu 4 projects chesa,,, ekada oka lady admin kuda kanipinchaledu..WHY???? [img]http://i54.tinypic.com/2u9jsi0.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manchi_babu Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 [quote name='30 yrs industry' timestamp='1348199041' post='1302513720'] pakkaki velli [b]adukondamma[/b] [/quote] [img]http://i45.tinypic.com/dh7gv5.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavan_613 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 [quote name='manchi_babu' timestamp='1348538623' post='1302534586'] Thanks denike ley boss, lite tesuko.. mana 30 years industry ,, doubts adagamantunadu kabati na doubt adugutuna... ee SAN/NAS technology lo Ada Ladies kanipincharu enti.. nenu 4 projects chesa,,, ekada oka lady admin kuda kanipinchaledu..WHY???? [img]http://i54.tinypic.com/2u9jsi0.gif[/img] [/quote][img]http://i45.tinypic.com/dh7gv5.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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