communism vs capitalism

[trent]

edi best india ki to develop fast and to equate the rich and poor

[Spartan]

@uttermost  has better idea

[trent]

1 minute ago, Spartan said:

@uttermost  has better idea

[snoww]

4 minutes ago, trent said:

edi best india ki to develop fast and to equate the rich and poor

dictatorship with a ruler with good intentions. 

[futureofandhra]

28 minutes ago, snoww said:

dictatorship with a ruler with good intentions. 

Dictatorship never delivered good results

Looks sweet but at the end Assam

[no01]

communism.....janalaki inka nayakulaki koncham kuda civic sense or law and order meeda bayam bakthi ledu. First vallandarini oka order lo pettali....ah tharuvatha development automatic ga vasthundi

[blackboxmh370]

Kerala State is the best example ! No development from past 50 years ! .............

Places like Kannur district in Kerala their is no street lights too in some villages they kill you RSS and RED party kill each other .

Kerala is very backward state in India. Once I went to give some tablets  to my friends mom they stay in this village . It was like hell very dangerous place to visit. No lights no transportation .Moral of the story is Red politics are not good to the world .

Other Example is USSR.  1 ruble = 1.5 dollar in 1970 know they are gone .

 

[soodhilodaaram]

1 hour ago, trent said:

edi best india ki to develop fast and to equate the rich and poor

capitalism.. because it allows competition and thereby creating wealth..govt should focus on creating controls to avoid exploitation

communism.. the idea of income for all..tax the rich and feed the poor will not work as the rich will leave.. no innovation no profit.. communism has failed for one reason that you cannot equate a lazy and hard working ever..lazy will never learn from hard working when he is getting freebies..thats the beauty of communism

i am  afraid we are heading to wards socialism (delivery model of communism) with so many freebies..it wont be too late before we hit 1991 styled economic crisis soon

 

[uttermost]

2 hours ago, soodhilodaaram said:

capitalism.. because it allows competition and thereby creating wealth..govt should focus on creating controls to avoid exploitation

communism.. the idea of income for all..tax the rich and feed the poor will not work as the rich will leave.. no innovation no profit.. communism has failed for one reason that you cannot equate a lazy and hard working ever..lazy will never learn from hard working when he is getting freebies..thats the beauty of communism

i am  afraid we are heading to wards socialism (delivery model of communism) with so many freebies..it wont be too late before we hit 1991 styled economic crisis soon

 

communism is not 'idea of income for all'.. lol.

communism is a state of stateless state. where people organize themselves without any rulers. workers organize themselves without a boss. The question of income doesn't come at all.

you have no idea what socialism, communism or capitalism is, except what you read from 3rd rate articles written by right wing morons.

[uttermost]

Obviously capitalism @trent. communism cannot occur in a region where there is extensive poverty. It can occur when workers in a well developed state take control of production and realise that the boss is useless.

capitalism can teach the backward Indian population new production techniques, can give them more money to buy stuff, be generally happy, until capitalism runs its course - like it does in all societies. 

even then communism can't occur, its just an utopian idea. capitalism cannot be beat. the best people can do is, form small meaningful networks within capitalist structures, and try to bring the capitalists (who have the help of the govt, and the banks) down little by little. It'll take a long time.

but communism won't come. Marx was wrong on that. He was right about how capitalism will kill itself (if the govt allows it to).

I still respect communists over Hindutva fcuks who don't even know what they are talking about. and they are so popular now. Says how pathetic and backward Indians are. even understanding what communism is hard for them, even for those who did their MS.

 

[uttermost]

4 hours ago, trent said:

edi best india ki to develop fast and to equate the rich and poor

best for India to develop is neither communism or capitalism, but heavy investment in education, health and infrastructure by the govt.

and for Indians to stop crying about reservations, communism, socialism and such non existent ghosts, and actually get down to making something that the world will want to buy.

until that happens any 'ism can't save India. Hindutva thinks that dreaming about india's disgusting past will help. They are fools.

[uttermost]

personally I think Indian capitalists are losers. they don't make anything of worth. but they have an ego the size of mt everest.

so no, unless a new generation comes along that is actually willing to work hard and smart, just providing everyone 4g, setting up huge retail chains with imported products.. etc. These things will keep India where it exactly is, in comparison to other countries.

[uttermost]

communism is not a means to an end. According to Marx, it is an end to itself. One cannot start from the end.

Communism is something a country must end up as. again, marx is wrong. he was naive about human motivations. even in advanced industrial nations - which is where he theorized that workers will get so awesome, that they will realise they don't need a boss.

he didn't realise that bosses have a million different tricks to keep the workers busy, and not think about their slavery. it works. eg. this db. some biscuits to upper middle/middle class, and some security is enough for people to be comfortable in their slavery, and mock people who want to get out of it.

[uttermost]

also in communism, there's no country. There's humanity in the whole world. haha  

[uttermost]

2 hours ago, soodhilodaaram said:

capitalism.. because it allows competition and thereby creating wealth..govt should focus on creating controls to avoid exploitation

communism.. the idea of income for all..tax the rich and feed the poor will not work as the rich will leave.. no innovation no profit.. communism has failed for one reason that you cannot equate a lazy and hard working ever..lazy will never learn from hard working when he is getting freebies..thats the beauty of communism

i am  afraid we are heading to wards socialism (delivery model of communism) with so many freebies..it wont be too late before we hit 1991 styled economic crisis soon

capitalism is not the only thing that allows for competition. the greatest inventions are made in govt labs where scientists are secure of their future, and immerse themselves in research environment, which doesn't exist today when inventions are patented and disallowed to be worked on by others.

brainy people competiting with each other just for sh1ts and giggles is competition too. Not just dumbfcuks who mindlessly produce stuff and more stuff for mindless people to buy.

capitalism in fact distorts democracy by routing max investment into private hands, leaving the majority impoverished, and feeding pyscho assholes like you who then mock the 'freebies', without realising that your entire life is a freebie that your capitalist mafia boss negotiated on your behalf with the govt. its not your 'talent' that got you your life, but your ability to play ball with the capitalists. Its true.