I feel like hurting my parents feelings

[Ashtavakra]

because the ultimate achievement of a human being is not to be the best he can be - which is just half the job, but to immerse himself in a sea of people, and still retain his individuality.

fighting battles alone, those that can be fought better in a group, is not just inefficient, but limiting to the personality of a human being, and of what he/she can ultimately achieve.

like Robert Heinlein said 

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -Robert A. Heinlein

like another thing Heinlein said:

"Ayn Rand is a bloody socialist compared to me." 

ofcourse like Ayn Rand, he didn't know what a socialist was. hehe..

[Ashtavakra]

7 minutes ago, DrBeta said:

 I agree, it still doesn't change the fact that you should fight. Yes, not all of us get the same kind of privilege. But, you don't get anything from complaining about it. All you got to do, is to suck it up, tighten your buckle and work on it. 

man/woman complains when he/she is alone.

when they organize, they draw strategies to change their destinies, and act on them.

so in some of these cases, individualism can be limiting.

[DrBeta]

2 minutes ago, Ashtavakra said:

man/woman complains when he/she is alone.

when they organize, they draw strategies to change their destinies, and act on them.

so in some of these cases, individualism can be limiting.

It's sickening to see someone blame others for their misery. Suck it up and be a man, life is a bitch. Deal with it. Stop complaining and do something about it. 

[Ashtavakra]

Just now, DrBeta said:

It's sickening to see someone blame others for their misery. Suck it up and be a man, life is a bitch. Deal with it. Stop complaining and do something about it. 

nah. some of the blame is well deserved.

to me, its more sickening to see dumbfcuks enjoy the privilege I do, because they were born to rich or (in India's case) upper middle class parents.

I definitely like to see them fail, and fight for 'life' like everybody else.

In a count of extremely rich people in the world.. less than 2% of them are self made tech moguls. more than 90% from traditional industries, and real estate, banking.

its perfectly fine to blame them for distorting 'life' for the rest. and plan strategies to bring their empire down. I would gladly help every such endeavor.

[Ashtavakra]

4 minutes ago, DrBeta said:

It's sickening to see someone blame others for their misery. Suck it up and be a man, life is a bitch. Deal with it. Stop complaining and do something about it. 

yes. they are doing something about it. they form communes, cook each other food, make stuff for each other, shutting out the govt in the process.. teach each other everything they know, etc.

a lot of this happens in barcelona region of spain.. and ofcourse, northwestern syrian (rojava) region has managed to create a thriving society of 5 million people, without even using any kind of money.. They also defeated ISIS.

 

[DrBeta]

11 minutes ago, Ashtavakra said:

nah. some of the blame is well deserved.

to me, its more sickening to see dumbfcuks enjoy the privilege I do, because they were born to rich or (in India's case) upper middle class parents.

I definitely like to see them fail, and fight for 'life' like everybody else.

In a count of extremely rich people in the world.. less than 2% of them are self made tech moguls. more than 90% from traditional industries, and real estate, banking.

its perfectly fine to blame them for distorting 'life' for the rest. and plan strategies to bring their empire down. I would gladly help every such endeavor.

No, it's not. Your life doesn't revolve around someone else's life. Everyone is unique in their own way. Hoping for someone else to fail is just sickening and disgusting. Everyone's life is not the same. Despite the lack of privilege, if someone is bold enough to dream big, then they should *** work towards what they want in life. No one gives a *** about people that complain. They just sound like a desperate dumbfucj.

[DrBeta]

1 minute ago, Ashtavakra said:

yes. they are doing something about it. they form communes, cook each other food, make stuff for each other, shutting out the govt in the process.. teach each other everything they know, etc.

a lot of this happens in barcelona region of spain.. and ofcourse, northwestern syrian (rojava) region has managed to create a thriving society of 5 million people, without even using any kind of money.. They also defeated ISIS.

 

I fail to understand how that is remotely relevant. 

[Ashtavakra]

1 minute ago, DrBeta said:

No, it's not. Your life doesn't revolve around someone else's life. Everyone is unique in their own way. Hoping for someone else to fail is just sickening and disgusting. Everyone's life is not the same. Despite the lack of privilege, if someone is bold enough to dream big, then they should *** work towards what they want in life. No one gives a about people that complain. They just sound like a desperate dumbfucj.

It absolutely does. you share the currency, share the laws you live under, both of which are applied in specific ways to limit certain people's access to them. That alone is enough to want to bring down the assholes who control both.

you can't achieve sh1t if you are not lucky. And the biggest lottery is being born rich. dreaming big is all bullshit. making money off stuff that should be in the public domain (like colleges, hospitals) is sickening a lot more than a genuine exasperation one feels when he has tried and has not been able to hit it off.

[Ashtavakra]

6 minutes ago, DrBeta said:

I fail to understand how that is remotely relevant. 

despite claiming that money is not an indicator of success, you seem to be defendin rich worthless assholes who were handed their life, and seem to suggest that we must focus on our goals, than to bring them down. 

but what do you think happens when people do the thing i described above? that is, a bunch of people minding their own business, helping each other live and thrive?

the history there for all to see.. they will be crushed by the might of govt. It happened in japan, korea, spain, and now syria. yeah forgot mexico

[Ashtavakra]

12 minutes ago, DrBeta said:

I fail to understand how that is remotely relevant. 

a million spanish revolutionaries killed before world war 2 broke out, because they dared to create a money less society I described above, and were successful for all of 3yrs.

everybody has forgotten that period, and the rise of one of the greatest social experiments of the 20th century..

Im sure you are not going to tell those loser liberal assholes (nicluding communists, libertarians, fascists, democratic govts) to leave them alone, would you? because life doesn't work that way. Two diametrically opposed systems cannot coexist.

yeah, i want all rich people to fail and suffer. and I hope I make it happen, if I can.

[DrBeta]

1 minute ago, Ashtavakra said:

It absolutely does. you share the currency, share the laws you live under, both of which are applied in specific ways to limit certain people's access to them. That alone is enough to want to bring down the assholes who control both.

you can't achieve sh1t if you are not lucky. And the biggest lottery is being born rich. dreaming big is all bullshit. making money off stuff that should be in the public domain (like colleges, hospitals) is sickening a lot more than a genuine exasperation one feels when he has tried and has not been able to hit it off.

Luck is what happens when opportunity meets hard work. Yes, you fail in life. But that doesn't mean that you need to cry on other people that succeed and assume that it's because of the lack of privilege. I am sure that someone that's born with the same kind of privilege that you're born with is doing so much better than you're. It doesn't make you any less of a person. It doesn't mean that you should hope, that person will fail in life. It is sickening. Life is not fair, but nothing that's doable by one person is not doable by someone else. It just takes longer, more effort, more struggle, more failures and more patience. 

[DrBeta]

2 minutes ago, Ashtavakra said:

a million spanish revolutionaries killed before world war 2 broke out, because they dared to create a money less society I described above, and were successful for all of 3yrs.

everybody has forgotten that period, and the rise of one of the greatest social experiments of the 20th century..

Im sure you are not going to tell those loser liberal assholes (nicluding communists, libertarians, fascists, democratic govts) to leave them alone, would you? because life doesn't work that way. Two diametrically opposed systems cannot coexist.

yeah, i want all rich people to fail and suffer. and I hope I make it happen, if I can.

Maybe do something better with your life than destroying someone else's life? 

[Ashtavakra]

Just now, DrBeta said:

Luck is what happens when opportunity meets hard work. Yes, you fail in life. But that doesn't mean that you need to cry on other people that succeed and assume that it's because of the lack of privilege. I am sure that someone that's born with the same kind of privilege that you're born with is doing so much better than you're. It doesn't make you any less of a person. It doesn't mean that you should hope, that person will fail in life. It is sickening. Life is not fair, but nothing that's doable by one person is not doable by someone else. It just takes longer, more effort, more struggle, more failures and more patience. 

you are constantly scaling back on what you defend, and you'll eventually end up in a small circle that says 'my opinion, my wish'.

but the crux is, i'm not saying what you think i'm saying. you are preaching to the wrong person.

I'm saying that the system encourages losers. and you seem to think that its fine because it allows hard working people to succeed. but no, it doesn't. 

It allows people who embrace its idea of success (that too, only a fraction of them) to succeed. Any other who challenges the status quo is destroyed. so the system should be destroyed too, because it'd do the same to us.

[Ashtavakra]

9 minutes ago, DrBeta said:

Maybe do something better with your life than destroying someone else's life? 

its the greatest thing I'd do with my life, if I can accomplish it.

cut down all billionaires to size. make them measure their actual worth. it'll be glorious.

 

[Ashtavakra]

14 minutes ago, DrBeta said:

Maybe do something better with your life than destroying someone else's life? 

the system would start to destroy my life, the moment I say all this in public.

my clients would dry off, employees would look for another firm, etc. an entire civilization built to protect just one extremely complicated machine - capitalism.

and you say i should do something better than breaking free from it? lol.  and protecting my friends from the violence it unleashes when people step out of line? lol.

can you come up with something better to do?