More hunger in india (rank 101) than pakistan (92) and bangladesh (76)

[Raven_Rayes]

8 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Are you serious? These two activities alone account for more than 15% losses in grain. Storage by these small farmers is another big problem. Most of the calculations on production are based on average values. By the time it reaches the distribution systems 30-40% is lost. 

Where are you getting these numbers from? I havent seen anyone measuring yield based on paddy straw heap weight, but with grain sacks. 

 

[MiryaIgudaMaruthiRao]

2 hours ago, Telugodura456 said:

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/news/world/india-slips-to-101st-rank-in-global-hunger-index-2021/article37004547.ece

 

ndia is behind Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal in the Global Hunger Index 2021

India has slipped to 101st position in the Global Hunger Index (GHI) 2021 of 116 countries, from its 2020 position of 94th and is behind its neighbours Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal.

Eighteen countries, including China, Brazil and Kuwait, shared the top rank with GHI score of less than five, the website of the Global Hunger Index that tracks hunger and malnutrition said on Thursday.

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The report, prepared jointly by Irish aid agency Concern Worldwide and German organisation Welt Hunger Hilfe, termed the level of hunger in India "alarming".

In 2020, India was ranked 94th out of 107 countries. Now with 116 countries in the fray, it has dropped to 101st rank.

 

India's GHI score has also decelerated -- from 38.8 in 2000 to the range of 28.8 - 27.5 between 2012 and 2021.

The GHI score is calculated on four indicators --undernourishment; child wasting (the share of children under the age of five who are wasted i.e who have low weight for their height, reflecting acute undernutrition); child stunting (children under the age of five who have low height for their age, reflecting chronic undernutrition) and child mortality (the mortality rate of children under the age of five).

The share of wasting among children in India rose from 17.1 per cent between 1998-2002 to 17.3 per cent between 2016-2020, according to the report.

"People have been severely hit by COVID-19 and by pandemic related restrictions in India, the country with highest child wasting rate worldwide," the report said.

Neighbouring countries like Nepal (76), Bangladesh (76), Myanmar (71) and Pakistan (92) are also in the 'alarming' hunger category, but have fared better at feeding its citizens than India, according to the report.

Signs of improvement

However, India has shown improvement in other indicators such as the under-5 mortality rate, prevalence of stunting among children and prevalence of undernourishment owing to inadequate food, the report said.

According to the report, the fight against hunger is dangerously off track. Based on the current GHI projections, the world as a whole -- and 47 countries in particular -- will fail to achieve a low level of hunger by 2030.

Food security is under assault on multiple fronts, it said, adding that worsening conflict, weather extremes associated with global climate change, and the economic and health challenges associated with the COVID19 pandemic are all driving hunger.

"Inequality -- between regions, countries, districts, and communities -- is pervasive and, (if) left unchecked, will keep the world from achieving the Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) mandate to “leave no one behind," the report said.

Further, the report noted that it is difficult to be optimistic in 2021 because the forces now driving hunger are overpowering good intentions and lofty goals.

Among the most powerful and toxic of these forces are conflict, climate change, and COVID-19—three Cs that threaten to wipe out any progress that has been made against hunger in recent years, it added.

 

 

 

Published on October 15, 2021

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[DummyVariable]

27 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

 

It's not distribution loss that is the problem. The problem is lack of distribution infrastructure. Farmers throwing their produce in the roads is what? Harvest loss?  

 

There are two problems here. One is the significant losses due to these small farmers not knowing efficient harvesting and storage and the other one poor people not being capable of buying food. These are the prime reasons for hunger in india. Where does distribution infrastructure come in when small farmers grow food inefficiently? They are simply not producing enough to feed themselves. 

[Raven_Rayes]

11 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

There are two problems here. One is the significant losses due to these small farmers not knowing efficient harvesting and storage and the other one poor people not being capable of buying food. These are the prime reasons for hunger in india. Where does distribution infrastructure come in when small farmers grow food inefficiently? They are simply not producing enough to feed themselves. 

Even then, the numbers you quote are rather high. Seems harvest loss for cereals in india is only about 4-6% 

And storage etc is the distribution infra. 

There's no evidence that farmers are growing food inefficiently, other than govts not providing storage infra for their produce

[DalchanChekka]

Anyways Pak and Bangla are smaller countries and no way comparable to India in terms of population.

It is easy to score 95% in a test for 20 points compared to scoring 95% for 200 points.

[DummyVariable]

17 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

Even then, the numbers you quote are rather high. Seems harvest loss for cereals in india is only about 4-6% 

And storage etc is the distribution infra. 

There's no evidence that farmers are growing food inefficiently, other than govts not providing storage infra for their produce

Many farm for themselves yeah. They are not going to any distribution systems. What they have after harvest is wasted because of outdated methods in storage. So they are short of food and go hungry.

[DummyVariable]

25 minutes ago, DalchanChekka said:

Anyways Pak and Bangla are smaller countries and no way comparable to India in terms of population.

It is easy to score 95% in a test for 20 points compared to scoring 95% for 200 points.

Even they should not have so many farmers. Ban these small players for the good of the world. 

[Raven_Rayes]

24 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Many farm for themselves yeah. They are not going to any distribution systems. What they have after harvest is wasted because of outdated methods in storage. So they are short of food and go hungry.

So they can't access pds shops, you say? 

[DalchanChekka]

3 minutes ago, DummyVariable said:

Even they should not have so many farmers. Ban these small players for the good of the world. 

what happens to the lands owned by farmers then?

How can one be denied of their basic rights?

What happens to small farmers if all they know is farming?

 

[DummyVariable]

2 minutes ago, DalchanChekka said:

what happens to the lands owned by farmers then?

How can one be denied of their basic rights?

What happens to small farmers if all they know is farming?

 

1. Rent it to the corporates. 
2. No one has rights. We just think that we have them.

3. Watch TV

[Raven_Rayes]

5 minutes ago, DalchanChekka said:

what happens to the lands owned by farmers then?

How can one be denied of their basic rights?

What happens to small farmers if all they know is farming?

 

It's easier if corporates produce food. Like all simple human solutions that seek to centralise everything and make others in the system beggars. 

Govts don't have to procure from corporates beyond what they want to. But it won't solve any of the problems with oversized subsidy in food production. If anything, the govt indirect expenditure on food will increase if corporates are allowed to decide the price. 

Competition cannot exist here inspite of all pretense. 

[DummyVariable]

8 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

It's easier if corporates produce food. Like all simple human solutions that seek to centralise everything and make others in the system beggars. 

Govts don't have to procure from corporates beyond what they want to. But it won't solve any of the problems with oversized subsidy in food production. If anything, the govt indirect expenditure on food will increase if corporates are allowed to decide the price. 

Competition cannot exist here inspite of all pretense. 

So your alternative is status quo and let people go hungry?

[Raven_Rayes]

1 minute ago, DummyVariable said:

So your alternative is status quo and let people go hungry?

Your claim that people go hungry because they don't produce enough food for themselves makes no sense. They can't access pds shops? 

I am in favour of corporates taking over food production, but won't make claims like it will cure hunger in India. 

Also corporatizing agriculture in india is going to be a hard task. Single farmers will always exist along with corporates like in the US.

 

[DummyVariable]

51 minutes ago, Raven_Rayes said:

Your claim that people go hungry because they don't produce enough food for themselves makes no sense. They can't access pds shops? 

I am in favour of corporates taking over food production, but won't make claims like it will cure hunger in India. 

Also corporatizing agriculture in india is going to be a hard task. Single farmers will always exist along with corporates like in the US.

 

Marginal farmers own 35% of the agri land  in India and makeup 80-90% of the population who are into agri. They are not that productive and more often than not do not produce enough. PDS is nonsense. It gives like 1 kg of grains per month may be and is also geared toward urban populations. Obviously these people are going hungry and is one of the major reasons for hunger in india. The other one is not being able to afford food because the work these people do doesn’t pay enough. 

[jefferson1]

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