Will Smith: I fell in love with the Bhagavad Gita

[Raven_Rayes]

4 minutes ago, Pulkapresident said:

Mari Reddylu ela vacharu? Kshatriyas Ani anochu ga? Why specifically Reddys? There is no reference to Reddys in Bhagavat Geeta.

trying to understand Indian native history based on a religious text (especially one that is not prescriptive like the bhagavad gita) that is quite obviously exaggerating romanticising certain aspects of society, is like declaring one has visited the niagara after looking at a few pictures of it on the internet.

a religious text exists to provide an internal architecture for one's life, to act as a guide. Its quite unnecessary to allow it to influence any other action other than for self reflection.

[Pulkapresident]

17 minutes ago, Jambhalheart said:

read chapter 18 verse 41

brāhmaṇa kṣatriya viśāṃ śūdrāṇāṃ ca paraṅtapa |

karmāṇi pravibhaktāni svabhāva prabhavair guṇaiḥ || 41 ||

18:41. The duties of the Brāhmaṇas, Kṣatriyas; Vaishyas and the Śūdras O Arjuna, are distinctly divided according to their inherent dispositions.

The next three verses are these. 

1. Tranquility, restraint, austerity, purity, patience, integrity, knowledge, wisdom, and belief in a hereafter—these are the intrinsic qualities of work for Brahmins. 

2. Valor, strength, fortitude, skill in weaponry, resolve never to retreat from battle, large-heartedness in charity, and leadership abilities, these are the natural qualities of work for Kshatriyas. 

3. Agriculture, dairy farming, and commerce are the natural works for those with the qualities of Vaishyas. Serving through work is the natural duty for those with the qualities of Shudras. 

[Pulkapresident]

Just now, Pulkapresident said:

The next three verses are these. 

1. Tranquility, restraint, austerity, purity, patience, integrity, knowledge, wisdom, and belief in a hereafter—these are the intrinsic qualities of work for Brahmins. 

2. Valor, strength, fortitude, skill in weaponry, resolve never to retreat from battle, large-heartedness in charity, and leadership abilities, these are the natural qualities of work for Kshatriyas. 

3. Agriculture, dairy farming, and commerce are the natural works for those with the qualities of Vaishyas. Serving through work is the natural duty for those with the qualities of Shudras. 

 

I possess none of these qualities. The only varna I can belong to is Sudhra, I serve through work. 

"Serving through work is the natural duty for those with the qualities of Shudras."

[Raven_Rayes]

6 minutes ago, Jambhalheart said:

Yes adhey chepthunna paaina posts lo , bhagavad gita talks about varna system which is existing in every society and it divided into professions .

Hindu society has evolved into cassette based occupations which has nothing to do with varna system 

Now go  www.youtube.com and search 'Garikapati about caste based occupation' and u'll get many videos and watch all of them to get clarity 

society is not divided into professions ra babu. inka adhey sodhi cheppaku.

religion's purpose is not to make rules for society, but to help an individual achieve salvation.

 

[jiggubhai]

@Raven_Rayes @Pulkapresident @Jambhalheart @huma

orey orey.. nenedo will smith kuda bhagavad gita chadivadu ani edo muchat padi post vesi ala bayatiki velli vachelopu ee casette rocchu entra babu . okka casette statement chesi aa telugodura456 gadu kampu kampu chesadu ga.. vadu along with jambalhaatraja and donuts shani la daapurincharu db ki

[huma]

13 minutes ago, jiggubhai said:

@Raven_Rayes @Pulkapresident @Jambhalheart @huma

orey orey.. nenedo will smith kuda bhagavad gita chadivadu ani edo muchat padi post vesi ala bayatiki velli vachelopu ee casette rocchu entra babu . okka casette statement chesi aa telugodura456 gadu kampu kampu chesadu ga.. vadu along with jambalhaatraja and donuts shani la daapurincharu db ki

Nenemannanu bro aa anti national gaallaki samadhanam ichanu ante

[jiggubhai]

8 minutes ago, huma said:

Nenemannanu bro aa anti national gaallaki samadhanam ichanu ante

i am not criticizing anyone except that telugudora456 fellow

[dasari4kntr]

10 hours ago, Jambhalheart said:

Bhagavad gita is written in Sanskrit & please try to understand meaning of it (intermediate lo chadhivi vuntaavu ga Sanskrit language ni) instead of relying on the interpretations given by authors who don’t understand verses properly 

this is the verse u quoted (word to word translation vundhi)

Chapter 3, verse 35:

Now tell where does it talk about caste ?? 

If u read chapters 2 & 3 , u will understand that the context was arjuna says ‘I can’t kill my relatives hence I won’t fight & I will give up my duties as king’ then Lord Krishna says ‘it’s ur duty as a king to fight & u shuld not give up ur dharma (meaning duty) as king to fight for truth’

Where did u find cassette here ?? It only talks about varna system not caste system 

In fact if u read chapter 4, verse 13 lord krishna said he divided human race in 4 divisions or varnas NOT by birth but by quality, activities & aptitude 

The four divisions of human order were created by me according to differences in quality, activities, and aptitude; although the creator of this, know me as the non-doer being immutable.

Source : https://bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-03-10.html

 

 

 

10 hours ago, Pulkapresident said:

Lol, this is not even the phrase that refers to caste system. Dharmam means what you follow. What this phrase is saying is, your own dharma is better to follow than someone else's dharma that was executed better than your dharma. In order words, it's telling you not to copy others. There is no reference to kulam in the actual phrase in Sanskrit, don't know who or what this translation is from.  This phrase doesn't not refer to the caste system. 

i am not denying the greatness and philosophical values of geeta, i too agree with it...but i am not agreeing that varnas are not mentioned in geeta...

during those old days...classification of people is part of political philosophy...(just read plato republic..etc)

ee 42 pages...editho vundo...adi nenu poorthigaa nammutanu...

mee questions ki nenu ichhe reply ee 42 pages...please read if you have time...

 

writer of this book is famous writer, journalist and brahmin…

written in 1997…

 

 

[Swatkat]

12 hours ago, sureshkonda said:

veedu pedda hyprocrite vaya. manchi ga open marriage lo enjoy chesi ippudu spirituality gurinchi matladuthundu

Yes open marraige lo unadu reddit lo esaru story

[Pulkapresident]

14 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said:

 

i am not denying the greatness and philosophical values of geeta, i too agree with it...but i am not agreeing that varnas are not mentioned in geeta...

during those old days...classification of people is part of political philosophy...(just read plato republic..etc)

ee 42 pages...editho vundo...adi nenu poorthigaa nammutanu...

mee questions ki nenu ichhe reply ee 42 pages...please read if you have time...

 

writer of this book is famous writer, journalist and brahmin…

written in 1997…

 

 

Varnas don't mean caste through, it means profession. In fact, there is a phrase that says varna is based on your personality trait and not by birth. 

[dasari4kntr]

17 minutes ago, Pulkapresident said:

Varnas don't mean caste through, it means profession. In fact, there is a phrase that says varna is based on your personality trait and not by birth. 

[Barney_Stinson]

love da, if a text book is written by well qualified gurus then it obviously will become de facto standard, 

so all of the spirituality, science, medicine, arts, were touched by ancient indian gurus and experts, we discarded them and only realised someone foreign makes a statement like this,

Bgita is a personality shapening material , its not arjuna riding a fking ferari and krishna doing a voice over to the vlog

[Telugodura456]

10 hours ago, Pulkapresident said:

Idanta fake news. My grand parents and their forefathers were all farmers, they never worked in a temple. I am sure you will find people in Sudras, Kshatriyas, and Vysyas even back in the day who were farmers. Even generations ago, I don't think people stuck to this profession. Logically, anni temples, or anni kingdoms kuda levu. Besides, there is no reference to this classification in Geeta. 

good realization. Have you wondered Bhagavgita is also probably a man made fake docs with several revisions ? especially with fake antiquity. 

[Telugodura456]

Gita is explicitly casteist. I remember two distinct and notorious stanza :

a) if women marry across castes then society gets polluted

b) Brahmins coming from head, sudras from feet etc. And Krishna saying I personally created these.

[jays02]

12 hours ago, dasari4kntr said:

i am not following the entire thread context...

just responding to your underlined text...

Please don't depend on someone interpretation. 3 gunas different, karma - quality nature of work is different.