Teluguredu Posted June 4 Report Posted June 4 39 minutes ago, 11_MohanReddy said: BCs in Andhra are different from SCs in Tamil Nadu. Prove me wrong before you claim your "Dravidian" theory of us vs them What do you mean different , as I said they will have different proportions of AAsi and iran_n but none of them will have significant steppe ancestry like brahmins. Also in Dravidian states barring kerala ,castes at similar status will be similar to each other genetically for example reddy ,kaapu,kamma will be same as vokkaliggas in K.A and vellalars ,founders in T.N. Tamil S.C 's will be similar to telugu S.C's like mala madiga . But the difference between telugu /Tamil S.C's and landowning castes will be much less than the difference between land -owning castes and Brahmins because Brahmins have input from steppe as they are migrants from north india while none of these castes of significant input from steppe. Look how telugu middle castes cluster close to sc's like mala madiga than telugu Brahmins Quote
american_desi Posted June 4 Report Posted June 4 6 minutes ago, Teluguredu said: What do you mean different , as I said they will have different proportions of AAsi and iran_n but none of them will have significant steppe ancestry like brahmins. Also in Dravidian states barring kerala ,castes at similar status will be similar to each other genetically for example reddy ,kaapu,kamma will be same as vokkaliggas in K.A and vellalars ,founders in T.N. Tamil S.C 's will be similar to telugu S.C's like mala madiga . But the difference between telugu /Tamil S.C's and landowning castes will be much less than the difference between land -owning castes and Brahmins because Brahmins have input from steppe as they are migrants from north india while none of these castes of significant input from steppe. Look how telugu middle castes cluster close to sc's like mala madiga than telugu Brahmins You behave as if you did DNA test of all Indians. No matter how much you want we Indians are not going to fight each other as South and North Indians . Because we know turaka people like you hiding behind internet are posting all sorts of crap here to weaken India to promote and spread Muslim Ummah . You better take your Internet Jihad elsewhere 1 Quote
11_MohanReddy Posted June 5 Author Report Posted June 5 18 hours ago, Teluguredu said: What do you mean different , as I said they will have different proportions of AAsi and iran_n but none of them will have significant steppe ancestry like brahmins. Also in Dravidian states barring kerala ,castes at similar status will be similar to each other genetically for example reddy ,kaapu,kamma will be same as vokkaliggas in K.A and vellalars ,founders in T.N. Tamil S.C 's will be similar to telugu S.C's like mala madiga . But the difference between telugu /Tamil S.C's and landowning castes will be much less than the difference between land -owning castes and Brahmins because Brahmins have input from steppe as they are migrants from north india while none of these castes of significant input from steppe. Look how telugu middle castes cluster close to sc's like mala madiga than telugu Brahmins The concept of a strict genetic divide between Aryans and Dravidians is a myth. Genetic studies show that the Indian population is largely a mix of different ancestral groups, and there's no clear genetic distinction between groups that were once labeled as "Aryan" and "Dravidian" Here's a more detailed explanation: 1. The "Aryan-Dravidian Divide" is a misnomer: Not based on race: The terms "Aryan" and "Dravidian" initially referred to language groups, not race or ethnicity. Over time, they became associated with cultural and social divisions, and even race, leading to the mistaken notion of a distinct genetic divide. Genetic studies debunk the myth: Multiple genetic studies have demonstrated that most Indians, regardless of location or language group, share a common genetic ancestry. Indian populations are a mix: Indian populations are genetically diverse, reflecting the complex history of migration, interaction, and adaptation over millennia. Quote
11_MohanReddy Posted June 5 Author Report Posted June 5 18 hours ago, Teluguredu said: What do you mean different , as I said they will have different proportions of AAsi and iran_n but none of them will have significant steppe ancestry like brahmins. Also in Dravidian states barring kerala ,castes at similar status will be similar to each other genetically for example reddy ,kaapu,kamma will be same as vokkaliggas in K.A and vellalars ,founders in T.N. Tamil S.C 's will be similar to telugu S.C's like mala madiga . But the difference between telugu /Tamil S.C's and landowning castes will be much less than the difference between land -owning castes and Brahmins because Brahmins have input from steppe as they are migrants from north india while none of these castes of significant input from steppe. Look how telugu middle castes cluster close to sc's like mala madiga than telugu Brahmins 2. The genetic makeup of Indians: Shared ancestry: Studies have shown that both northern and southern Indian populations share a significant proportion of genetic ancestry, including a component linked to ancient Indo-European groups (e.g., Indo-Aryans) and other groups that contributed to the genetic diversity of the region. No clear genetic separation: There's no evidence of a sharp genetic divide between groups that were once labeled "Aryan" or "Dravidian." The genetic landscape of India is more akin to a gradient of ancestry rather than a distinct separation. Impact of migration and mixing: Genetic diversity in India is a result of various migrations and interactions, including the arrival of Indo-European groups (Indo-Aryans), the spread of Dravidian languages, and other population movements. Quote
Teluguredu Posted June 5 Report Posted June 5 Lol again posting A.I generated bullshit which doesn't give definitive answers when I have clearly posted a plot which shows that telugu Brahmins cluster away from other castes like kaapus or SC's. Just go to some genetic testing website ,look at the samples of south indian castes like reddy ,kamma ,kaapu ,vellalar ,vokkaliga and compare north indian castes like jaats ,rors , ,Brahmins . South Indians will have 0-5% steppe while these castes will have 30-45% steppe. Quote
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