Civil aviation ministry should be held responsible for todays crash

[futureofandhra]

1 hour ago, Anta Assamey said:

Inko sari ilanti question adigite... Ram Mohan Naidu ni Cabinet lo ki teesukunna MODI kuda resign cheyali ani post vesta...

Adhi jarigedhi kadhuley

Train accidents jarigina vatiki railway Minister 

Industrial safety incidents ki industry Minister 

Low quality infra ki roads ministry 

Evadu resign chesina same thing repeats 

Remember those boat accidents and stampedes 

India have zero value on safety issue 

Root cause is different 

Unless the entire structure changes these fail overs won't change 

I think you should post entire cabinet to resign for this 

 

[CanadianMalodu]

18 minutes ago, Sam480 said:

Insaneclown271

•6h ago

 

 

Wing looked clean. Dual engine failure/ stall is all I can think of… at this stage.

NOT THE WING, the flaps. I asked ChatGpt to draw me the pics to show you

This is how it should have looked. 

 

 

The lift with retracted flaps is dangerous. It can stall the aircraft.  Then the pilot says "Engine failure". 

 

[Joker_007]

1 hour ago, psycontr said:

 

Papam AIr India Private company ani marchipoyinattu unnadu..

[Joker_007]

TRUMP Thata Resign cheyyali... 

[akkum_bakkum]

Just now, futureofandhra said:

Adhi jarigedhi kadhuley

Train accidents jarigina vatiki railway Minister 

Industrial safety incidents ki industry Minister 

Low quality infra ki roads ministry 

Evadu resign chesina same thing repeats 

Remember those boat accidents and stampedes 

India have zero value on safety issue 

Root cause is different 

Unless the entire structure changes these fail overs won't change 

I think you should post entire cabinet to resign for this 

 

Scan the bags..maakem sambandham antunna cabinet

[Sam480]

12 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

NOT THE WING, the flaps. I asked ChatGpt to draw me the pics to show you

This is how it should have looked. 

 

 

The lift with retracted flaps is dangerous. It can stall the aircraft.  Then the pilot says "Engine failure". 

 

 

[CanadianMalodu]

2 minutes ago, Sam480 said:

 

Thrust loss is undeniably due to "engine failure". 

[futureofandhra]

2 minutes ago, Sam480 said:

 

Am suspecting software glitch that might have blocked control systems 

[Bendapudi_english]

Aviation experts antha ee thread lone unaru ga.

[Sam480]

5 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Thrust loss is undeniably due to "engine failure". 

The chance of both engines failing at the same time on a Boeing 787—specifically due to simultaneous mechanical or technical failure—is extraordinarily rare, estimated at:

Less than 1 in a billion flight hours (10⁻⁹ or lower probability).

But let’s unpack this:

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✅ What Do We Mean by “At the Same Time”?

To fail simultaneously, both engines would need to:

• Lose thrust within seconds of each other

• Due to the same cause or independent but coinciding failures

---

🎯 Main Causes of True Simultaneous Dual Engine Failure

These are extremely rare but possible in specific scenarios:

1. Fuel exhaustion or mismanagement (e.g., crew error or undetected fuel leak)

2. Fuel contamination (e.g., icing or water in the fuel system)

3. Volcanic ash or heavy bird strike damaging both engines

4. Software/control system malfunction (extremely rare, but under study in modern aircraft systems)

5. Severe weather/hail ingestion

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⚠️ Not Mechanical Simultaneity

Most dual engine failures in history were not simultaneous mechanical failures, but a chain of events involving:

• Loss of one engine

• And soon after, the second due to a shared problem (fuel, weather, environment)

---

📊 Statistical Insight

According to FAA and industry safety data:

• Engine in-flight shutdown rate: ~1 per million hours (10⁻⁶)

• Simultaneous shutdown due to unrelated causes: ~10⁻¹² or lower

• Accidents involving total power loss: < 0.1 per million flights

---

✈️ 787 Engine Design and Safety

The Boeing 787 uses engines like:

• Rolls-Royce Trent 1000

• GE GEnx

These engines:

• Are independently monitored

• Have separate fuel and electrical systems

• Undergo independent maintenance checks

• Operate under redundant control systems

---

✅ Bottom Line

Question	Answer
Simultaneous engine failure (mechanical)	< 1 in 1 billion flight hours (very rare)
Most likely causes	Fuel-related, environmental, or external
787’s design & ETOPS-330 rating	Allows up to 5.5 hours diversion on 1 engine safely

[CanadianMalodu]

9 minutes ago, Sam480 said:

The chance of both engines failing at the same time on a Boeing 787—specifically due to simultaneous mechanical or technical failure—is extraordinarily rare, estimated at:

Less than 1 in a billion flight hours (10⁻⁹ or lower probability).

But let’s unpack this:

---

✅ What Do We Mean by “At the Same Time”?

To fail simultaneously, both engines would need to:

• Lose thrust within seconds of each other

• Due to the same cause or independent but coinciding failures

---

🎯 Main Causes of True Simultaneous Dual Engine Failure

These are extremely rare but possible in specific scenarios:

1. Fuel exhaustion or mismanagement (e.g., crew error or undetected fuel leak)

2. Fuel contamination (e.g., icing or water in the fuel system)

3. Volcanic ash or heavy bird strike damaging both engines

4. Software/control system malfunction (extremely rare, but under study in modern aircraft systems)

5. Severe weather/hail ingestion

---

⚠️ Not Mechanical Simultaneity

Most dual engine failures in history were not simultaneous mechanical failures, but a chain of events involving:

• Loss of one engine

• And soon after, the second due to a shared problem (fuel, weather, environment)

---

📊 Statistical Insight

According to FAA and industry safety data:

• Engine in-flight shutdown rate: ~1 per million hours (10⁻⁶)

• Simultaneous shutdown due to unrelated causes: ~10⁻¹² or lower

• Accidents involving total power loss: < 0.1 per million flights

---

✈️ 787 Engine Design and Safety

The Boeing 787 uses engines like:

• Rolls-Royce Trent 1000

• GE GEnx

These engines:

• Are independently monitored

• Have separate fuel and electrical systems

• Undergo independent maintenance checks

• Operate under redundant control systems

---

✅ Bottom Line

Question	Answer
Simultaneous engine failure (mechanical)	< 1 in 1 billion flight hours (very rare)
Most likely causes	Fuel-related, environmental, or external
787’s design & ETOPS-330 rating	Allows up to 5.5 hours diversion on 1 engine safely

 

Which is why I suspect act of Sabotage. Too many things going wrong at the same time. 

[Sam480]

4 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Which is why I suspect act of Sabotage. Too many things going wrong at the same time. 

 

[Android_Halwa]

41 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

Remember those boat accidents and stampedes 

Stampede….edi pushkarallo jarigina stampede ae na ?

[Sam480]

 

[EyBisa]

25 minutes ago, Bendapudi_english said:

Aviation experts antha ee thread lone unaru ga.