March 18Mar 18 Author 18 minutes ago, CADNMALODU said:There are no boots on the ground yet. It's already about three weeks. In Afghanistan & Iraq campaigns, boots were on the ground very early in Afghanistan it's in week 2 and in Iraq on day 1.Even if the current administration is paralyzed, and will eventually taken over there will always be rebel factions resetting kamikaze attacks. All this will take years to wind up. Don't expect things to normalize soon.Israel spies are already doing their work inside Iran.We don't need things to be normalized....we just need the strait of Hormuz to reopen.
March 18Mar 18 I don't think it's going to end before having boots on ground.Iran will keep replacing leaders it's not a dictatorship like north korea or some middle eastern countries .
March 18Mar 18 5 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:Israel spies are already doing their work inside Iran.We don't need things to be normalized....we just need the strait of Hormuz to reopen.Say you're in a rebel faction, with the leadership gone, you have access to sea mines (these are easy to make) and have to make decisions. You don't need frigates or big ships man. You have access to trawlers or even smaller fishing boats, you can go one laying mines in the sea. Even with all the patrol, you can sneak in because of the smaller size of the boats and civilian appearance. What will you do? Do you sit quiet or go lay mines when you find suitable time ?Don't you think of ramming truck filled with explosives into ground stations of patrol at the strait, kamikaze style as a collateral , and to create a opening window for laying more mines ?
March 18Mar 18 Author 23 minutes ago, CADNMALODU said:Say you're in a rebel faction, with the leadership gone, you have access to sea mines (these are easy to make) and have to make decisions. You don't need frigates or big ships man. You have access to trawlers or even smaller fishing boats, you can go one laying mines in the sea. Even with all the patrol, you can sneak in because of the smaller size of the boats and civilian appearance. What will you do? Do you sit quiet or go lay mines when you find suitable time ?Don't you think of ramming truck filled with explosives into ground stations of patrol at the strait, kamikaze style as a collateral , and to create a opening window for laying more mines ?US has satellites to track and recon drones that are used in Ukraine.A lot of manufacturing facilities have been hit.Small scale mine throwers will always be there.....was a problem before the war as well.US also has small ships that are minesweepers. Some of them are scheduled to be decommissioned and sitting idle and can be used.Also, with leadership gone, these factions including the army would be demoralized.
March 18Mar 18 1 minute ago, krishnaaa said:US has satellites to track and recon drones that are used in Ukraine.A lot of manufacturing facilities have been hit.Small scale mine throwers will always be there.....was a problem before the war as well.US also has small ships that are minesweepers. Some of them are scheduled to be decommissioned and sitting idle and can be used.Amplified assymteric warfare is Iran's staretgy. Heck, they will even use many drones to lay seamines. In a nut shell, what this does is to squeeze the the supply passing through the strait, as mine sweeping and escorting shipping vessels takes more time, which means this war will continue.
March 18Mar 18 Author 3 minutes ago, CADNMALODU said:Amplified assymteric warfare is Iran's staretgy. Heck, they will even use many drones to lay seamines. In a nut shell, what this does is to squeeze the the supply passing through the strait, as mine sweeping and escorting shipping vessels takes more time, which means this war will continue.Problem is that 70% of their capability has already been destroyed. How much longer can they drag on with 30% capability and leadership being taken out?
March 18Mar 18 11 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:Problem is that 70% of their capability has already been destroyed. How much longer can they drag on with 30% capability and leadership being taken out?Is it the last mosquito that's not killed before you go bed that bothers you more or the ones that you killed before ?
March 18Mar 18 Author 18 minutes ago, CADNMALODU said:Is it the last mosquito that's not killed before you go bed that bothers you more or the ones that you killed before ?If we have to debate, we will have to debate based on logic. Otherwise its just a waste of time.Let go of your bias and think objectively.
March 18Mar 18 1 minute ago, krishnaaa said:If we have to debate, we will have to debate based on logic. Otherwise its just a waste of time.Let go of your bias and think objectively.I just gave you analogy because you use Siatama as your DP. It's always the resistance that's the problem. It's the one that takes long time. Time variable in assymteric warfare simply can't be extrapolated in the case of resistance. All Anglo war expeditions have had this problem.
March 18Mar 18 Author 1 hour ago, CADNMALODU said:I just gave you analogy because you use Siatama as your DP. It's always the resistance that's the problem. It's the one that takes long time. Time variable in assymteric warfare simply can't be extrapolated in the case of resistance. All Anglo war expeditions have had this problem.As I said, those things can continue.But there is a greater chance of positive outcomesIran may be pushed towards settlementWar will continue with less intensity with strait of hormuz being open.The case of war going long with Hormuz closed is of very low probability.Regarding Regime change and democracy, it depends on the people.
March 18Mar 18 Just now, krishnaaa said:Problem is that 70% of their capability has already been destroyed. How much longer can they drag on with 30% capability and leadership bein9 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:As I said, those things can continue.But there is a greater chance of positive outcomesIran may be pushed towards settlementWar will continue with less intensity with strait of hormuz being open.The case of war going long with Hormuz closed is of very low probability.Regarding Regime change and democracy, it depends on the people.Settlement of what ? the war is to replace the regime ,they are not going to be under u.s , no matter what as long as they exist ,entire isolation of iran for decades is because of that ,if they could have settled they would have settled long time ago This war will definitely go deeper till u.s will have boots on ground .
March 18Mar 18 Author 2 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:Settlement of what ? the war is to replace the regime ,they are not going to be under u.s , no matter what as long as they exist ,entire isolation of iran for decades is because of that ,if they could have settled they would have settled long time agoThis war will definitely go deeper till u.s will have boots on ground .This kind thinking has been proven wrong multiple times with Trump in the picture.Same kind of thinking during liberation day and then with Greenland.Do update yourself and reread my posts.
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