I didn't argue don't want to argue with Idiot.
I only understand that everyone in India switching to EV is not as simple as flipping a switch.
To all those "Indian Idiots"


https://youtu.be/MQLbakWESkw?si=3XtaM-0lqlk0ycGC

21 minutes ago, HarshitaG said:

I didn't argue don't want to argue with Idiot.
I only understand that everyone in India switching to EV is not as simple as flipping a switch.
To all those "Indian Idiots"


https://youtu.be/MQLbakWESkw?si=3XtaM-0lqlk0ycGC

WOW.....9 year old video. Which zamana are you in?

Forget about switching. ...... majority are still buying petrol vehicles.

Regarding whatever he talked about battery. Did you even try to search if it is still true?

Don't try to win an argument. Try to grow. Accepting that you are wrong would lead to lot more winning in future.

Electric Vehicle (EV) batteries are significantly cleaner, more sustainable, and more efficient compared to those produced 10 years ago. Advancements in battery chemistry, manufacturing techniques, and recycling processes have reduced their environmental footprint while extending their lifespan.

Here is how EV batteries have improved over the last decade:

1. Cleaner Production and Lower Carbon Footprint

• Lower Manufacturing Emissions: Battery production has become 2–3 times cleaner than it was around 2017.

• Shift in Chemistry: Manufacturers are moving toward chemistries that use fewer rare materials, such as Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries, which do not rely on cobalt or nickel.

• Cleaner Energy Grid: Batteries are increasingly manufactured in factories powered by renewable energy, reducing the carbon intensity of their production.

2. Improved Lifespan and Degradation Rates

• Longer-Lasting Batteries: Modern EV batteries are designed to last 300,000 to 500,000 miles, often outliving the usable life of the car itself.

• Reduced Degradation: Older batteries often saw significant degradation after a few years. Today, many batteries retain over 90% of their capacity after 100,000 miles, with average degradation rates being much lower than anticipated.

• Better Battery Management Systems (BMS): Sophisticated software and thermal management systems protect batteries from extreme temperatures and prevent damage from overcharging, significantly extending their life.

3. Increased Recyclability

• Circular Economy: Governments and companies are investing billions to ensure batteries can be recycled and reused, with components designed to be used multiple times.

• Second-Life Applications: Before recycling, many used EV batteries are repurposed for stationary energy storage to power homes, buildings, or grids, adding another 5–10 years of utility.

• Mineral Recovery: Current recycling techniques can recover over 90% of materials like lithium, cobalt, and nickel to be used in new batteries.

The Bottom Line

While mining for raw materials still has local environmental impacts, a modern EV's overall lifetime emissions are significantly lower than a comparable gasoline car, and this gap is widening as battery technology and the electricity grid improve.

Uber is actively facilitating a major transition to electric vehicles (EVs) in India as part of its goal to have a 100% zero-emission platform by 2040. The company is aggressively partnering with manufacturers, fleet operators, and financial institutions to overcome the high upfront costs of EVs and enhance charging infrastructure.

Key Aspects of Uber’s EV Shift in India:

• Major Partnerships: In early 2023, Uber signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Tata Motors to introduce 25,000 electric vehicles—specifically the XPRES-T EV—to its platform in a phased manner.

• Expansion Initiatives: To support this, Uber is working with fleet partners such as Lithium Urban Technologies, Everest Fleet Private Limited, and Moove to deploy these vehicles across top cities including Delhi NCR, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Hyderabad, Bengaluru, and Ahmedabad.

• Financing Solutions: To make the transition affordable, Uber signed an agreement with the Small Industries Development Bank of India (SIDBI) to provide ₹1000 crore in low-interest loans to fleet partners for acquiring EVs.

• Infrastructure Development: Uber is expanding its charging infrastructure by partnering with Jio-bp (a BP-pulse joint venture) to enable high-speed charging for its EV fleet.

• Uber Green Launch: In May 2023, the company launched its "Uber Green" service in Delhi, Mumbai, and Bengaluru, allowing users to request electric vehicles directly through the app.

• Two-Wheeler Electrification: In addition to cars, Uber is collaborating with Zypp Electric to deploy 10,000 electric two-wheelers for its UberMoto service by 2024, with over 1,000 already deployed in Delhi. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]

Despite the challenges of high upfront costs and infrastructure requirements, this shift is accelerating to meet the rising demand for green mobility in India's major cities.

For driving Uber in India, Electric Vehicles (EVs) offer the lowest running costs and highest daily savings, while CNG provides a balance of reasonable running costs and lower upfront vehicle investment. Petrol cars are expensive to operate daily, limiting profit margins, but offer convenience and higher boot space.

Here is the detailed breakdown based on current Indian market conditions:

1. Electric Vehicle (EV) - Best for High Daily Usage

• Running Cost: Lowest cost, approx. ₹2,000–₹2,500 per 1,500 km.

• Pros: Very high savings on running costs (approx. ₹1,500+ per day), low maintenance (fewer moving parts), and higher passenger comfort.

• Cons: Higher upfront purchase cost and limited range, requiring 24x7 driving in shifts, which requires strict charging management.

• Best Scenario: City driving with high daily mileage (150-200+ km) in metro cities with good charging infrastructure.

2. CNG - Best for Budget/Mid-Range Usage

• Running Cost: Low, significantly cheaper than petrol but higher than EV.

• Pros: Good fuel efficiency, lower fuel cost compared to petrol, and better resale value than early-stage EVs.

• Cons: Long queues at filling stations (high downtime), significantly reduced luggage space in the boot, and slower acceleration, especially uphill.

• Best Scenario: City driving where CNG stations are easily available. Good for Hatchback/Sedan segments.

3. Petrol - Best for Flexibility

• Running Cost: Highest, roughly ₹6–₹8 per km.

• Pros: Easy availability of fuel, lower purchase price, no loss of cargo space, and better performance.

• Cons: Low profitability due to high fuel prices, higher maintenance costs, and high pollution.

• Best Scenario: Driving in areas with limited CNG/EV infrastructure, or if planning to work part-time.

1 hour ago, krishnaaa said:

WOW.....9 year old video. Which zamana are you in?

Forget about switching. ...... majority are still buying petrol vehicles.

Regarding whatever he talked about battery. Did you even try to search if it is still true?

Don't try to win an argument. Try to grow. Accepting that you are wrong would lead to lot more winning in future.

Electric Vehicle (EV) batteries are significantly cleaner, more sustainable, and more efficient compared to those produced 10 years ago. Advancements in battery chemistry, manufacturing techniques, and recycling processes have reduced their environmental footprint while extending their lifespan.

Here is how EV batteries have improved over the last decade:

1. Cleaner Production and Lower Carbon Footprint

• Lower Manufacturing Emissions: Battery production has become 2–3 times cleaner than it was around 2017.

• Shift in Chemistry: Manufacturers are moving toward chemistries that use fewer rare materials, such as Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries, which do not rely on cobalt or nickel.

• Cleaner Energy Grid: Batteries are increasingly manufactured in factories powered by renewable energy, reducing the carbon intensity of their production.

2. Improved Lifespan and Degradation Rates

• Longer-Lasting Batteries: Modern EV batteries are designed to last 300,000 to 500,000 miles, often outliving the usable life of the car itself.

• Reduced Degradation: Older batteries often saw significant degradation after a few years. Today, many batteries retain over 90% of their capacity after 100,000 miles, with average degradation rates being much lower than anticipated.

• Better Battery Management Systems (BMS): Sophisticated software and thermal management systems protect batteries from extreme temperatures and prevent damage from overcharging, significantly extending their life.

3. Increased Recyclability

• Circular Economy: Governments and companies are investing billions to ensure batteries can be recycled and reused, with components designed to be used multiple times.

• Second-Life Applications: Before recycling, many used EV batteries are repurposed for stationary energy storage to power homes, buildings, or grids, adding another 5–10 years of utility.

• Mineral Recovery: Current recycling techniques can recover over 90% of materials like lithium, cobalt, and nickel to be used in new batteries.

The Bottom Line

While mining for raw materials still has local environmental impacts, a modern EV's overall lifetime emissions are significantly lower than a comparable gasoline car, and this gap is widening as battery technology and the electricity grid improve.

How much of electricity is renewable in India ?

Can you please name a company who does recycling of batteries in India.

You simply shrugged off saying old video without watching it.

In that video he clearly says buying stuff is the problem, we need to reduce what we buy.

before recycling, reduce, reuse and refuse comes

So you say ev’s holy grail of all pollution problem in India.

For example: India has drinking water problem, did you stop eating meat ? Yes there is a relation but you will not understand.

I don’t have desire to win argument especially with “”

1 hour ago, HarshitaG said:

How much of electricity is renewable in India ?

Can you please name a company who does recycling of batteries in India.

You simply shrugged off saying old video without watching it.

In that video he clearly says buying stuff is the problem, we need to reduce what we buy.

before recycling, reduce, reuse and refuse comes

So you say ev’s holy grail of all pollution problem in India.

For example: India has drinking water problem, did you stop eating meat ? Yes there is a relation but you will not understand.

I don’t have desire to win argument especially with “”

Instances where your mind is misbehaving again. Don't get me wrong or get triggered or get emotional. I am just trying to help

1. Do basic research before asking questions. Most of it is simple google search or ask chatgpt

"As of early 2026, renewable energy (including large hydro) contributed approximately 26.2% of India's total electricity generation for the fiscal year 2025-26. Non-fossil sources (including nuclear) accounted for about 29.2% of the generation, with renewable energy accounting for over 50% of the total installed capacity"

"Mahindra’s new, dedicated EV manufacturing and battery assembly plant in Chakan, inaugurated in early 2025, is a 100% renewable energy-reliant, water-positive facility. As part of its F22–F27 cycle, Mahindra allocated ₹4,500 crores for EV development, integrating advanced automation with sustainable manufacturing to produce its Origin SUVs"

2. You kept aside rest of all the points and focused on something that would confirm your opinion...lookup confirmation bias.....rare earths significantly reduced. Amount of Lithium reduced. Zero Nickel....Zero Cobalt. Sodium Ion breakthrough has happened. These batteries would have Zero Lithium as well. But lets talk about the point you raised.

   "India's electric battery recycling sector is rapidly expanding, with key plants operated by Attero, Lohum, NavPrakriti, and BatX Energies, primarily focusing on lithium-ion battery recovery to produce black mass and extract critical metals like cobalt, nickel, and lithium. Major hubs are concentrated in Delhi-NCR and Uttar Pradesh, with new facilities emerging, such as in Kolkata, aiming to handle over 1.2 million electric vehicle (EV) batteries annually by 2030"

3. Buying stuff is the problem. Obvious solution is to not buy a car and rely on public transport. If you can do that , great. My argument is to install solar and generate your own electricity, if you are buying a car, buy an EV. Don't try to twist my argument. Anything you buy causes pollution. Living like a sanyasi in the forest is best...if we talk about the extremes.

5 hours ago, HarshitaG said:

Bold Red: yes the one who called Indians as Idiots.

I never said petrol car is practical, seems like you have comprehension issues.

I can explain only to the person who knows everything or who knows nothing, I cannot explain to you.

Anni telisinodiki nuvventi explain chesedi.. @krishnaaa ade category loki vastaadani @akkum_bakkum antunnadu

5 hours ago, akkum_bakkum said:

Kinda anna class peekadu chusava? Everyone except him is an idiot now, by default. Wat an irony! EV looks like some magical science that wont create any afterlife battery issues, mining rare earths….all these r pathith than smoke from ic engines.

edava sodhi evadu chaduvutaaduvay.. pani leda naaku!

13 hours ago, enigmatic said:

Anything thats confusing?

Lot of people still have decade old information in regards to EVs.

I had a lot of friction when I had installed solar and shifted to EVs.

All those who questioned are glad and enjoying them :)

13 hours ago, krishnaaa said:

Instances where your mind is misbehaving again. Don't get me wrong or get triggered or get emotional. I am just trying to help

1. Do basic research before asking questions. Most of it is simple google search or ask chatgpt

"As of early 2026, renewable energy (including large hydro) contributed approximately 26.2% of India's total electricity generation for the fiscal year 2025-26. Non-fossil sources (including nuclear) accounted for about 29.2% of the generation, with renewable energy accounting for over 50% of the total installed capacity"

"Mahindra’s new, dedicated EV manufacturing and battery assembly plant in Chakan, inaugurated in early 2025, is a 100% renewable energy-reliant, water-positive facility. As part of its F22–F27 cycle, Mahindra allocated ₹4,500 crores for EV development, integrating advanced automation with sustainable manufacturing to produce its Origin SUVs"

2. You kept aside rest of all the points and focused on something that would confirm your opinion...lookup confirmation bias.....rare earths significantly reduced. Amount of Lithium reduced. Zero Nickel....Zero Cobalt. Sodium Ion breakthrough has happened. These batteries would have Zero Lithium as well. But lets talk about the point you raised.

   "India's electric battery recycling sector is rapidly expanding, with key plants operated by Attero, Lohum, NavPrakriti, and BatX Energies, primarily focusing on lithium-ion battery recovery to produce black mass and extract critical metals like cobalt, nickel, and lithium. Major hubs are concentrated in Delhi-NCR and Uttar Pradesh, with new facilities emerging, such as in Kolkata, aiming to handle over 1.2 million electric vehicle (EV) batteries annually by 2030"

3. Buying stuff is the problem. Obvious solution is to not buy a car and rely on public transport. If you can do that , great. My argument is to install solar and generate your own electricity, if you are buying a car, buy an EV. Don't try to twist my argument. Anything you buy causes pollution. Living like a sanyasi in the forest is best...if we talk about the extremes.

water is a finite resource, during monsoons you can have good hydro production but summers its not possible; forget India, US struggles with water situation too. the only country I am aware of is that.
Hydro electricity = clean energy source but as renewable energy it has its own challenges especially in India. you cannot tell the percentage during dry and wet conditions will be alike, In summer the consumption increases but hydro production decreases so in those cases fossil fuel is the only way.
I asked you to name some recycling companies from top of your head, you are regurgitating something from online, see all of those stuff you are copying from some where; I am explaining you the practical hurdles that a common man faces, you don't understand because you are an HNI and you seem to care for environment but you don't know jack about it.

BOLD RED : I am trying to help you understand; try to use some common sense here,
for you EV might be a use case but not everyone. no body is asking to live like a sanyasi, you are saying adopting EV is the holy grail to all the pollution and particulate problems in India.



EV+Home solar installation+ Tesla wall(whatever the equivalent is in India) = people don't have money to spend(splurge); Ppl now-a-days who don't even own a house but own a car;
ppl who are living in apartments not feasible.

21 hours ago, krishnaaa said:

If majority of Indians were smart, civic sense would have been better, majority of vehicles would have been Electric and most of the rooftop would have solar panels.

But the chose to buy petrol vehicles and make climate worse and make India even more reliant on foreign oil.

This also leads to diseases, premature death and global warming.

And as India heats up, they will again buy ACs to make it even worse.

America lo unnappudu Remo la undevaadivi… India poyaaka Raamam la tayarayyav 😁😁😁

10 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:

Anything thats confusing?

Lot of people still have decade old information in regards to EVs.

I had a lot of friction when I had installed solar and shifted to EVs.

All those who questioned are glad and enjoying them :)

even in that decade old information it clearly says source of energy from gas station to power plant. can you tell where your electricity comes from renewable or non-renewable source ?
I shared that video because majority of that information is still relevant.

come to US when you have an example of an EV which is still running beyond 300000 miles.

40 minutes ago, HarshitaG said:

water is a finite resource, during monsoons you can have good hydro production but summers its not possible; forget India, US struggles with water situation too. the only country I am aware of is that.
Hydro electricity = clean energy source but as renewable energy it has its own challenges especially in India. you cannot tell the percentage during dry and wet conditions will be alike, In summer the consumption increases but hydro production decreases so in those cases fossil fuel is the only way.
I asked you to name some recycling companies from top of your head, you are regurgitating something from online, see all of those stuff you are copying from some where; I am explaining you the practical hurdles that a common man faces, you don't understand because you are an HNI and you seem to care for environment but you don't know jack about it.

BOLD RED : I am trying to help you understand; try to use some common sense here,
for you EV might be a use case but not everyone. no body is asking to live like a sanyasi, you are saying adopting EV is the holy grail to all the pollution and particulate problems in India.



EV+Home solar installation+ Tesla wall(whatever the equivalent is in India) = people don't have money to spend(splurge); Ppl now-a-days who don't even own a house but own a car;
ppl who are living in apartments not feasible.

Look how Evil you are. The damage you people do to fellow human beings and the nation is humongous.

Read your posts....full of crap. No wonder India is having trouble. Zero intent to grow or to change.

Main problem is with intellectuals on this forum put up with this crap because they want to be diplomatic.

Diplomatic intellectuals are enablers of idiotic behavior.

Your post is full of confirmation bias after confirmation bias.

Have respect for others time. I will be tremendously happy if I am proven wrong. Because I will grow. Thats the way you need to approach. Whenever I post anything in regards to areas that I dont have knowledge like politics for example....I am much more mellow.

Let me try again.

Before speaking nonsense, do basic research. I have already pointed it out in my previous post. You saw hydro and straight away started talking nonsense without checking.

"As of early 2026, solar power has overtaken hydropower in installed capacity in India, becoming the leading renewable source. While large hydro historically dominated, solar's rapid growth (97.86+ GW) now far exceeds combined large/small hydro (~52 GW) in capacity, though hydropower remains crucial for peak balancing, often providing 4–7% of total generation."

Regarding recycling companies, why would anyone know companies on top of head. If you have anything to refute, reply with logic...not with nonsense.

Regarding solar installation....you are again proving yourself as an idiot. Only idiots will speak so confidently with half knowledge.

When doing solar installation, you dont need battery. You need battery only if you want uninterrupted power....a small invertor would be sufficient. In general, invertor isnt needed as well.

We got 5kw solar installation done for 2.3 lakhs....for many 3kw is sufficient which is very cheap as subsidy is high till 3 kw.....its the same price as an iphone which many buy for showoff. And you save money from day 1 while the iphone depreciates.

Regarding apartments, smaller apartment buildings like 4-5 is doable. Balcony solar also is becoming popular. Dont look for problems, look for solutions.

Even without solar, the cost is low compared to petrol. Do whatever you can.

And regarding EVs, I already said used EVs are cheap.

Dont jump into your stupid confirmation bias and try to jump on anything that looks to confirm it. Do basic research. There is a wonderful search tool called google. You can use chatgpt as well. Use the tools. Dont behave like an uneducated person.

1 hour ago, HarshitaG said:

even in that decade old information it clearly says source of energy from gas station to power plant. can you tell where your electricity comes from renewable or non-renewable source ?
I shared that video because majority of that information is still relevant.

come to US when you have an example of an EV which is still running beyond 300000 miles.

Again.....do a basic seach before spreading nonsense.

There are so many videos on youtube with electric car owners showing off their vehicles with more than 300k miles. And these are older tech batteries. Newer batteries are designed to last more than a million miles easily.

"Electric vehicles can exceed 300,000 miles, with examples like the Tesla Model 3 and Ford Mustang Mach-E achieving this milestone on their original batteries and drivetrains. High-mileage EVs often show minimal battery degradation (e.g., 15% after 300,000 miles) when maintained properly, with many proving durable enough for taxi services.Key Examples of High-Mileage EVs:[Tesla Model 3 (2018): A long-range model exceeded 316,000 miles with only 15% battery degradation.[Ford Mustang Mach-E (2022): Used in a private car service, this vehicle surpassed 300,000 miles in under three years with minimal battery issues.Tesla Model S: Multiple, well-documented cases exist of Model S vehicles exceeding 300,000–400,000+ miles, particularly in taxi fleets.[Nissan Leaf: Early models with "lizard" batteries have shown longevity, with some reaching 300,000+ miles in commercial use.Factors for High EV Mileage:Battery Health: Keeping charge levels between 20% and 80% and limiting fast charging helps maintain battery life over long distances.Minimal Maintenance: High-mileage EVs typically require far fewer repairs compared to traditional internal combustion engine vehicles.Durability: Modern EV batteries and drive units are engineered to exceed 300,000 miles, often operating beyond their original warranty periods.These examples indicate that with reasonable care, modern electric vehicles are capable of high-mileage longevity."