A basic income for everyone? Yes, Finland shows it really can work

[jalamkamandalam]

22 minutes ago, uttermost said:

Finland experiment won't work. They have not provided this basic income on top of other entitlements. The entitlements will be slowly weaned off, and it won't work. Finnish people have a more robust democracy than most countries, and they will not take it lightly if it doesn't work.

 India will move towards single payer healthcare in the future. agree.

By the way, do you know how Nordic Economies are dwindling because of Islamists. Go and see the YouTube.

 

[uttermost]

Just now, Vishwaksena said:

I am indifferent to this program, but eager to see the results of the pilot. Do you guess what entitlements would be gone? I highly doubt their healthcare and free education is going away anytime soon.

They tried it in Calgary 2yrs back, and dropped the idea. The response was not enthusiastic.

Finnish healthcare is not completely free, unless you are part of a select group under median income. Under this program, they will cut that entitlement. Other entitlements like unemployment allowance will also be cut for people under this program.

it may be possible to live in rural finland for 500euros, but impossible to in cities. They are very expensive. basically the complaint is that by giving this entitlement, govt is trying to push undesirables from the city. the main opposition party (a nationalist racist party) True Finns are against this entitlement, but for different reasons.

education is free for everyone, ofcourse. 

[uttermost]

1 minute ago, jalamkamandalam said:

By the way, do you know how Nordic Economies are dwindling because of Islamists. Go and see the YouTube.

 

Its not dwindling because of Islamists, but because they are stuck with Euro. Sweden is doing spectacularly well economically, almost at par with US. 

immigration doesn't affect economy in a bad way. There's no evidence for that happening anywhere. infusion of new set of people bolsters the economy in fact. That's why Europe is still continuing with their program of immigration even in the midst of heavy opposition ofcourse, there will be social issues.

[jalamkamandalam]

2 hours ago, uttermost said:

dude, that's how communities react when they are being pushed away from mainstream. They batten their hatches, and go back to their own culture. 

Its a shame that muslims are subjected to this kind of bullying all over the world.

if white people 'revolt' and make a 'holocaust' happen, you'll be in the list too. They won't discriminate btwn hindu and muslim. you yourself are helping them by swallowing their racist bullshit without questioning them.

There are hundreds of religions and communities who migrated to other countries from India/China/Africa.

Why is not there any problem with Indian Hindus? There are millions of them in MiddleEast/Europe/USA/Canada/Aus/NZ.

Why is it that no Govt or no community had problem with Hindus?

Why everyone has problem with one particular religion?

Any sensible answers?

[tennisluvr]

3 minutes ago, jalamkamandalam said:

By the way, do you know how Nordic Economies are dwindling because of Islamists. Go and see the YouTube.

 

If you have some, please post them. I found one on Youtube, not sure if this is what you are referring to: 

 

[jalamkamandalam]

1 minute ago, uttermost said:

Its not dwindling because of Islamists, but because they are stuck with Euro. Sweden is doing spectacularly well economically, almost at par with US. 

immigration doesn't affect economy in a bad way. There's no evidence for that happening anywhere. infusion of new set of people bolsters the economy in fact. That's why Europe is still continuing with their program of immigration even in the midst of heavy opposition ofcourse, there will be social issues.

Bro, dont tuck your brain in sand.

Check the facts. How state benefits are affected due to the condom-less religion of Islam in Norway, Denmark, Finlad, Netherlands.

Just go and check in YouTube.

[uttermost]

1 minute ago, jalamkamandalam said:

There are hundreds of religions and communities who migrated to other countries from India/China/Africa.

Why is not there any problem with Indian Hindus? There are millions of them in MiddleEast/Europe/USA/Canada/Aus/NZ.

Why is it that no Govt or no community had problem with Hindus?

Why everyone has problem with one particular religion?

Any sensible answers?

because the countries that indians are migrating to, weren't involved in a war inside India, breaking India.

If US were involved in a war inside India, and there's 24/7 news on how pathetic India is on US TV, pretty sure, Indians/Hindus will face the same problems as muslims.

[uttermost]

1 minute ago, jalamkamandalam said:

Bro, dont tuck your brain in sand.

Check the facts. How state benefits are affected due to the condom-less religion of Islam in Norway, Denmark, Finlad, Netherlands.

Just go and check in YouTube.

I said I lived in Eindhoven and Espoo, not visited.. Where do you think they are?

I don't have to watch youtube videos to know how it is.

[uttermost]

7 minutes ago, jalamkamandalam said:

Bro, dont tuck your brain in sand.

Check the facts. How state benefits are affected due to the condom-less religion of Islam in Norway, Denmark, Finlad, Netherlands.

Just go and check in YouTube.

yes. there's a problem with state benefits going to the new arrivals, but not disproportionately. It does affect people already in the list of beneficiaries.

Finland doesn't have that problem. There are hardly any refugees in Finland. 

Sweden has it. Netherlands immigrants are top of the draw who make higher than median wage, not asylum seekers.

pretending like their economy itself is going to collapse because of new arrivals is a bit much. lol.

[uttermost]

okay. there's one precedence where influx of refugees almost collapsed the civil infra.

It was during bangladesh war in Kolkata.

Europe doesn't take anywhere near the kind of refugees India took then. Other than germany (that too for cheap labour), no other country cares. including sweden, which just pretends to care.

lets say 1/1000th the number of refugees moving into a region that has percapita income 100 times of what Kolkata had in 70s. you see, how stupid your fatalism sounds.

[uttermost]

31 minutes ago, Kontekurradu said:

nice comedy anna, post more anna please 

lol. andaritho kalisi kooda pichi puvvu laaga replies isthunnav ga. nannu trolling cheyyakunda undatam antha kastama paapam neeku. lol.

[uttermost]

33 minutes ago, jalamkamandalam said:

 dude, your question is left unanswered as this uttermost disgusting moron.

Coming to your question, yes, if they form 20% in the class, which is the case in many English towns by now, they will create havoc for others. But white children are generally most defensive and intelligent when it comes to defending themselves, on a personal basis.

Then comes the poor Hindu children who are just 1-2% across every English town except Wembley/Harrow/Hounslow/Ealing/Leicester/Ilford.

They will become soft targets for this Jihadi scum and its a severe stress on that delicate minds, who keeps asking themselves why we are hated by these little beasts.

 

you are calling 6yr olds as jihadi scum? really?? lol.

[tennisluvr]

35 minutes ago, Vishwaksena said:

That was a direct reply to my post. Even I didn't refer to you in my post, did I?

Got you, I was just clarifying. 

[Kontekurradu]

17 minutes ago, uttermost said:

lol. andaritho kalisi kooda pichi puvvu laaga replies isthunnav ga. nannu trolling cheyyakunda undatam antha kastama paapam neeku. lol.

anna nuuuv keka anna 

[uttermost]

44 minutes ago, jalamkamandalam said:

 dude, your question is left unanswered as this uttermost disgusting moron.

Coming to your question, yes, if they form 20% in the class, which is the case in many English towns by now, they will create havoc for others. But white children are generally most defensive and intelligent when it comes to defending themselves, on a personal basis.

Then comes the poor Hindu children who are just 1-2% across every English town except Wembley/Harrow/Hounslow/Ealing/Leicester/Ilford.

They will become soft targets for this Jihadi scum and its a severe stress on that delicate minds, who keeps asking themselves why we are hated by these little beasts.

first of all, your 20% is an exaggeration. It may be true of certain schools, but not widespread beyond bradford and london.

ONS live births itself puts 4.3% as the number of pakistani kids, and 3.8% as Indians, another 1.5% bangladeshi. There are not that many refugees from the middle east in the UK. perhaps north africa. and that percentage is at around 1%. All these don't add up to 20%. 

also number of births is decreasing for the past 3-4yrs, inspite of increase in immigration.

so just calm down. invite the kids home, if you want to improve their perception of 'others'. otherwise change the school. don't keep ranting about the religion like a fool.