desha bhakti ekkuvaithey, meeku meerey sollu chepkondi ra..

[RealKingMaker]

7 minutes ago, uttermost said:

haha.. you make all sorts of pointless justifications. the reality is however, that kashmir people are ruled against their will, by a colonial indian govt. 

like indian revolutionaries who fought british with violence, some kashmiris will take up violence.

do you think bhagat singh was a terrorist? most of India was peaceful under british.. why did he attack  the parliament then?

Bhagat Singh is a terrorist to speak in few terms. The fight for Indian freedom is because of financial looting of India by britian. Here, it's just for religious tensions which are being stoked. They are not going to achieve anything in religious terms or financial terms if given a seperate country, it's more of emotional fight than practical one

[uttermost]

Just now, RealKingMaker said:

Bhagat Singh is a terrorist to speak in few terms. The fight for Indian freedom is because of financial looting of India by britian. Here, it's just for religious tensions which are being stoked. They are not going to achieve anything in religious terms or financial terms if given a seperate country, it's more of emotional fight than practical one

ah I see.. if British didn't financially loot India, we could have lived together as one happy family singing songs, right?

if its so practical, then take the death of 44 jawans as cost of that practicality. why so much hungama?

[RealKingMaker]

2 minutes ago, uttermost said:

there's no question of hindu rule. the entire problem started with hindus occupying almost all govt positions in kashmir, by secretly helping the Indian govt maintain control over j&K, until they lost it and had to rig the elections to put a puppet in power.

they got exposed, and pak used this opportunity to escalate the issue, and it has come to this.

now kashmir has the highest army presence per 1000 people than anywhere in the world.

army occupying its territory and suppressing those people that it calls its own.

Conspiracy theories without any proof. But what I noticed recently is a Kashmir guy topping civil service exam.

[uttermost]

2 minutes ago, RealKingMaker said:

Bhagat Singh is a terrorist to speak in few terms. The fight for Indian freedom is because of financial looting of India by britian. Here, it's just for religious tensions which are being stoked. They are not going to achieve anything in religious terms or financial terms if given a seperate country, it's more of emotional fight than practical one

you are doing lots of yogasanas to justify the occupation of india in kashmir.

but you were unwilling to let AP be united. lol. 

its funny that you don't see any hypocrisy there.

[RealKingMaker]

Just now, uttermost said:

ah I see.. if British didn't financially loot India, we could have lived together as one happy family singing songs, right?

if its so practical, then take the death of 44 jawans as cost of that practicality. why so much hungama?

Yeah, people know that it's the cost. Why do consider anger on Pak as anger on Kashmir. 

[uttermost]

1 minute ago, RealKingMaker said:

Conspiracy theories without any proof. But what I noticed recently is a Kashmir guy topping civil service exam.

this is your response? what proof you want? that elections in 1987 were not rigged by rajiv gandhi?

[uttermost]

Just now, RealKingMaker said:

Yeah, people know that it's the cost. Why do consider anger on Pak as anger on Kashmir. 

because kashmir students are mocked, and beaten all over india.. atleast there's a report one such incident in dehradun university.

[uttermost]

1 minute ago, RealKingMaker said:

Yeah, people know that it's the cost. Why do consider anger on Pak as anger on Kashmir. 

what is the anger at pakistan for? lol.

it was a guy from kashmir that did the bombing, not pakistani.

 

[uttermost]

2 minutes ago, RealKingMaker said:

 Yeah, people know that it's the cost. Why do consider anger on Pak as anger on Kashmir. 

so lets just forget about jawans.. and move on. poor jawans.. there are 1000 more ready to join the army for 3 score meals.

[RealKingMaker]

Just now, uttermost said:

you are doing lots of yogasanas to justify the occupation of india in kashmir.

but you were unwilling to let AP be united. lol. 

its funny that you don't see any hypocrisy there.

Kashmir, if it has a reason to ask for seperate country has to do it by peaceful measures, not definitely by terrorism and stone pelting. Afterall Gandhi is admired worldwide for Indian freedom movement and not Bhagat Singh or sukhguru. Though Bhagat Singh has valid point, he failed to let the world know his point, rather he took extreme step which is not appreciated in civilized world. We are here to live peacefully, not bomb and kill each other.

[uttermost]

Just now, RealKingMaker said:

Kashmir, if it has a reason to ask for seperate country has to do it by peaceful measures, not definitely by terrorism and stone pelting. Afterall Gandhi is admired worldwide for Indian freedom movement and not Bhagat Singh or sukhguru. Though Bhagat Singh has valid point, he failed to let the world know his point, rather he took extreme step which is not appreciated in civilized world. We are here to live peacefully, not bomb and kill each other.

how can there be peace when army has special powers in that territory?

so atleast you accepted that Bhagat Singh is a terrorist. while Gandhi who begged and joked along with English as great. cool then.

have you even read Bhagat Singh? what point do you think he had? 'civilized world'?? lol.

having military occupy a territory and harass its residents is civil? lol

[RealKingMaker]

4 minutes ago, uttermost said:

this is your response? what proof you want? that elections in 1987 were not rigged by rajiv gandhi?

Might have been done in 87 or might not be. That's not the final election. Elections come once in 5 years. How is that election before 32 years is a justification?

[RealKingMaker]

Just now, uttermost said:

how can there be peace when army has special powers in that territory?

so atleast you accepted that Bhagat Singh is a terrorist. while Gandhi who begged and joked along with English as great. cool then.

have you even read Bhagat Singh? what point do you think he had? 'civilized world'?? lol.

having military occupy a territory and harass its residents is civil? lol

What special powers, you have right to elect your representatives. Elect them and ask them to highlight whatever you want in parliament. You are allowed to vote your CM, you have enough ways to convey the message. But you chose terrorism, and justifying it. Can't you see any fault at all in your end?

[uttermost]

Just now, RealKingMaker said:

Might have been done in 87 or might not be. That's not the final election. Elections come once in 5 years. How is that election before 32 years is a justification?

dude, you keep changing goalposts.. lol.

okay.. tell me.. what is the voting percentage of elections in kashmir.. lol. 

do you want me to tell you the recent number.. its 5% for the recent municipal polls..

forget voting, only 30% even filed nominations. lol.

what is govt's response to this? more attacking militants aa? It is because people are against India's policy in Kashmir. will the govt hear, and the army scale back its operations? or will it 'avenge' these recent deaths starting a new cycle of violence?

[uttermost]

Just now, RealKingMaker said:

What special powers, you have right to elect your representatives. Elect them and ask them to highlight whatever you want in parliament. You are allowed to vote your CM, you have enough ways to convey the message. But you chose terrorism, and justifying it. Can't you see any fault at all in your end?

the elected representatives are to be subservient to the army. so what's the point?

they didn't chose terrorism.. India forced them to do it. Indian people like you who justify Indian occupation forced them.