Modi is not india , Adani is not indian economy

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19 hours ago, Mirzapur_kattappa said:

Bbc documentary won't destroy india's image..it destroys political image of actor modi.

Hiednberg reports don't destroy Indian economy..it will reveal and expose how Adani is destroying core infrastructure of india's integral coal and energy sectors at his benefits.

Bhakts stop using fake patriotism and fake love for india to build their terrorist radical rss ideologies of actor modi and serial murderer amit shaw 

It's been 2 years that this Adani guy was first exposed and how modi tamed sebi let him money launder to his suitcase companies via mauritus and cayman islands 

 

Pakistan ki one way ticket book cheyamantava?

[telugu_fan]

16 hours ago, tennisluvrredux said:

Baa please explain to me about this Adani ponzi scam. 

I don't know if anyone commenting here have actually read the report.

here is the link to the site of the report.

https://hindenburgresearch.com/?p=2376

Hindenburg is a hedge fund company that "only shorts stocks". You can see in their website they only talk about shorting company stock. I am not an expert on stocks but shorting in simple terms means that company stock value is overvalued and it has to come down. Generally shorting companies make money based on the margin of the price it falls.

1. They start off with Ketan Parekh a stock broker who pumped stocks and creates inflated value in the stocks. He was convicted in 2001 and was banned for 14 years but apparently he was still indirectly influencing the stocks till late 2010. He was accused of pumping 10 stocks of which adani was also one of the stocks and this was in 1999-2001.

2. They then go and say that from 2004-2006 Adani's brother was involved in diamond scheme where they are invoicing lower and selling for higher profit. DRI (Directorate of Revenue Intelligence) framed charges against him in 2006, but he paid a fine and got out and then joined his brother Gautham Adani as a director and is working. According to Hindenburg this shouldn't happen as it unethical and immoral.

3. There are a bunch of info about forming shell companies in Caymen, Mauritius, Cypress and sending money from there which are all believed to be held by members of adani family specifically Vinod Adani.

4. They say there are 5 CFO in 8 years and this is a big red flag according to them. They accuse Adani group of using one CA who is 38 years old who has used another set of 24-28 years old CA's to sign off on their individual Adani gas, Adani Textiles which according them shouldn't be the case for a high valued company.

5. They don't mention govts during 2006 or 2010 time but make a point to mention TMC Mahua Moitra of TMC when adani's stock fell 15-20% saying small/common investors are affected and accusation by Congress with name. People complain when Adani makes money, also complain when their stock looses money. what to do 😞

Essentially a lot of such accusations, i am not well versed with SEBI and India investment rules, but i am pretty sure that money can be got through offshore entities, what percentage though more knowledgeable people should throw light on if they have info.

The Hindenburg can take a shorting position but crouching it in moral terms is perhaps wrong as they will be directly benefiting if the stock goes down, if this was a journalistic report then maybe it would have been a different case. You can expect Adani group to respond in some way in the coming days.

 

[telugu_fan]

20 hours ago, Mirzapur_kattappa said:

Bbc documentary won't destroy india's image..it destroys political image of actor modi.

 

BBC is supposed to be a new organization and they have supposedly made a documentary, not fiction movie. If that is true then in their documentary they make a statement - In Godra, Hindus died due to fire whose causes are disputed, but it was blamed on Muslims.

So is the BBC trying to say that Hindus were not killed in burning train and weren't the muslims involved there.

What was the role of surrounding Congress Cm's in not sending police force to help out feloow Indian State to bring riots under control?

Is the BBC saying that they have evidence which couldn't be proven when the Gujarat govt investigated or when the UPA brought CBI enquiry or when the assorted cabal of NGO's from teestha Seetalvad shouted about special SIT under Supreme Court and all of these couldn't prove anything but BBC speaking with god knows who, got all the evidences of the purported conspiracy?

Modi being actor or dance is not the issue here. Since we have very short memories let me replay what happened to Mossadeq in Iraq. He came in with popular support but since he was favoring USSR, then the CIA put in real and false news about him in papers and led to his ouster and the rise of Baath party and eventually Saddam followed which we see with an unstable Iraq today.

Obviously it might not happen to India, but since the local news channels here no longer can carry that effect about Modi it looks like BBC has decided to get into the game with a lies and half truths. And BBC has highest viewership in India in terms of pure numbers. So if they are banned then atleast they will be careful, otherwise they will continue in their merry ways.

[telugu_fan]

19 hours ago, Mirzapur_kattappa said:

Hiednberg reports don't destroy Indian economy..it will reveal and expose how Adani is destroying core infrastructure of india's integral coal and energy sectors at his benefits.

 

Hindenburgs report will not destroy Indian economy because Adani is not Indian economy. Adani is just a businessman who is trying to earn as much as he can when the situation is favorable to him just as any businesses do.

Why don't you do some research and post how Adani is destroying India's coal and energy sectors? There are many other companies involved in coal and energy in India not just Adani right?

Adani's Carmichael mine from Australia is in the news many times. All the people braying about environment forget that if not Adani, then some other western company will take over the same mine and sell to India at probably the same or higher prices. Just like how India is importing copper after vedanta's Sterlite factory shut down.

And govt tenders for energy or power generation are given based on tendering, not based on company's value based on stock market.

Hindenburg has a short position on Adani, its a hedge fund looking to make money by reducing adani's stock price, not some investigative journalist, that everything they say has to be followed.

[pakeer_saab]

19 hours ago, TrishaManiac said:

wow wonderful revelations...

idanta SEBI ki iste Mudi and Adani jail kellipotaremo

[pakeer_saab]

52 minutes ago, telugu_fan said:

I don't know if anyone commenting here have actually read the report.

here is the link to the site of the report.

https://hindenburgresearch.com/?p=2376

Hindenburg is a hedge fund company that "only shorts stocks". You can see in their website they only talk about shorting company stock. I am not an expert on stocks but shorting in simple terms means that company stock value is overvalued and it has to come down. Generally shorting companies make money based on the margin of the price it falls.

1. They start off with Ketan Parekh a stock broker who pumped stocks and creates inflated value in the stocks. He was convicted in 2001 and was banned for 14 years but apparently he was still indirectly influencing the stocks till late 2010. He was accused of pumping 10 stocks of which adani was also one of the stocks and this was in 1999-2001.

2. They then go and say that from 2004-2006 Adani's brother was involved in diamond scheme where they are invoicing lower and selling for higher profit. DRI (Directorate of Revenue Intelligence) framed charges against him in 2006, but he paid a fine and got out and then joined his brother Gautham Adani as a director and is working. According to Hindenburg this shouldn't happen as it unethical and immoral.

3. There are a bunch of info about forming shell companies in Caymen, Mauritius, Cypress and sending money from there which are all believed to be held by members of adani family specifically Vinod Adani.

4. They say there are 5 CFO in 8 years and this is a big red flag according to them. They accuse Adani group of using one CA who is 38 years old who has used another set of 24-28 years old CA's to sign off on their individual Adani gas, Adani Textiles which according them shouldn't be the case for a high valued company.

5. They don't mention govts during 2006 or 2010 time but make a point to mention TMC Mahua Moitra of TMC when adani's stock fell 15-20% saying small/common investors are affected and accusation by Congress with name. People complain when Adani makes money, also complain when their stock looses money. what to do 😞

Essentially a lot of such accusations, i am not well versed with SEBI and India investment rules, but i am pretty sure that money can be got through offshore entities, what percentage though more knowledgeable people should throw light on if they have info.

The Hindenburg can take a shorting position but crouching it in moral terms is perhaps wrong as they will be directly benefiting if the stock goes down, if this was a journalistic report then maybe it would have been a different case. You can expect Adani group to respond in some way in the coming days.

 

Hindenburg research: background of this company with 5 researchers itself a good sign of hit job against biggest conglomerate in India, this how hit jobs are done by west against companies in emerging countries

Adani group is current going well with highest PE ratio, stock holders are not stupids but these retards are, this is how congress never allowed major corporations in India to become global, because they never cared to protect the intersts of Indian companies from western intel agencies backed research firms.

Adani became such a large corporation by taking risks and allying with govts expansion policies favoring private corporation to enhance capacity. latkors keep using govt sector inspite of a horrible history of mismanaged govt companies pumping billions from taxpayers money to keep them floating. 90% of govt enterpsies are sick companies

[pakeer_saab]

18 minutes ago, telugu_fan said:

BBC is supposed to be a new organization and they have supposedly made a documentary, not fiction movie. If that is true then in their documentary they make a statement - In Godra, Hindus died due to fire whose causes are disputed, but it was blamed on Muslims.

So is the BBC trying to say that Hindus were not killed in burning train and weren't the muslims involved there.

What was the role of surrounding Congress Cm's in not sending police force to help out feloow Indian State to bring riots under control?

Is the BBC saying that they have evidence which couldn't be proven when the Gujarat govt investigated or when the UPA brought CBI enquiry or when the assorted cabal of NGO's from teestha Seetalvad shouted about special SIT under Supreme Court and all of these couldn't prove anything but BBC speaking with god knows who, got all the evidences of the purpoted conspiracy?

Modi being actor or dance is not the issue here. Since we have very short memories let me replay what happened to Mossadeq in Iraq. He came in with popular support but since he was favoring USSR, then the CIA put in real and false news about him in papers and led to his ouster and the rise of Baath party and eventually Saddam followed which we see with an unstable Iraq today.

Obviously it might not happen to India, but since the local news channels here no longer can carry that effect about Modi it looks like BBC has decided to get into the game with a lies and half truths. And BBC has highest viewership in India in terms of pure numbers. So if they are banned then atleast they will be careful, otherwise they will continue in their merry ways.

do not respond to that dog, he has some brain damage that started in 2014

[telugu_fan]

20 hours ago, Mirzapur_kattappa said:

One of the biggest strike simillar to farmers strike occured in Maharashtra 2 weeks ago..no national news coverage .. these 2 million workers are indians not anti nationals or pakistanis..if good media is pro india they would have highlighted the real problem of these emoyees..nope..modi image is bigger

 

EEFI also noted that around 2 million electricity workers from across the country also came into the street on January 4, 2023 in solidarity to the striking Maharashtra workers

It was covered and it didn't receive too much news because the strike was diffused with Fadnavis assuring their demands will be met.

Adani applied for parallel distribution license and Mahvitaran (state power distribution company) employees thought that it will be privatized (since it happend in Delhi and Odisha).

Fadnavis essentially said that they are not privatizing it and are going to invest more money (about 55000 crores) and hiring of about 40000 contractual staff through a special scheme was accepted.

https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/mumbai/maharashtra-power-companies-staff-call-off-strike-no-privatisation-8361755/

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/1-25-lakh-mseb-employees-withdraw-strike-after-maharashtra-government-intervenes/articleshow/96740628.cms

 

Whenever there si a non congress govt in power, there will be dharnas, rasta rokos, strike and hartals. During 2014-2019 when BJP took over many states you had Jaat reservation in Haryana, Rajput reservation in Rajasthan, Dalit agitation in Madhya Pradesh, language, flag and constitution agitation in karnataka.

But we are smart to know everything and over smart to not remember the important things. 

[telugu_fan]

5 minutes ago, pakeer_saab said:

do not respond to that dog, he has some brain damage that started in 2014

Sometime factual links or evidence needs to be presented else these things will take a life of its own with people thing they are right so nobody responds to them.

[pakeer_saab]

21 minutes ago, telugu_fan said:

Sometime factual links or evidence needs to be presented else these things will take a life of its own with people thing they are right so nobody responds to them.

that is true for those who can debate with civility, that fellow seems to be too labor without a rebuttal but vulgar words to defend his point

[telugu_fan]

1 hour ago, pakeer_saab said:

that is true for those who can debate with civility, that fellow seems to be too labor without a rebuttal but vulgar words to defend his point

maybe pakeer_saab, but we can try to be civil as much as we can and i forgot to add, if not for him, then atleast the debate and info presented will be useful for others who don't have it or else they too will start in a little time thinking all of this is true.

[kakatiya]

4 hours ago, tennisluvrredux said:

Okay good explanation, basically typical fraud Gujju yedava. He's getting away with it because of the gujju assholes in power, anthe ga

Imagine amount of people lost their money in krushi bank scandal .. same if Adani goes down..lot of people mutual funds and savings 

[Mirzapur_kattappa]

@pakeer_saab and @telugu_fan ababba ababbba abaabba 

 

 

.... Ne kashtam ki , ne acting ki vuncle indhaaa 

 

[Mirzapur_kattappa]

@JackSeal @bhaigan @hyperbole uncle chudandi ee thread lo meeru double action

[Mirzapur_kattappa]

21 hours ago, Mirzapur_kattappa said:

One of the biggest strike simillar to farmers strike occured in Maharashtra 2 weeks ago..no national news coverage .. these 2 million workers are indians not anti nationals or pakistanis..if good media is pro india they would have highlighted the real problem of these emoyees..nope..modi image is bigger

 

EEFI also noted that around 2 million electricity workers from across the country also came into the street on January 4, 2023 in solidarity to the striking Maharashtra workers

This is height of censorship..no political debate because this happene in bjp ruled state..

Fake nationalists my foot .

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