Why SCs are loyal votebanks for Congress?

[Android_Halwa]

11 minutes ago, venkappa said:

Some constituencies still rely on long time votebanks using caste resentment. Not caste pride but resentment.

Not just resentment but also caste pride from other castes will also create an insecurity among SC’s. For example, In the Godavari districts where Janasena appears to have gained strength solely based on the caste pride, in such places SC’s feel neglected or not given enough importance. Why would SC voter will vote for kapu pride ? Perhaps they will vote for a party that cushions them than to the party who seeks mandate for caste pride.

[southyx]

2 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Not just resentment but also caste pride from other castes will also create an insecurity among SC’s. For example, In the Godavari districts where Janasena appears to have gained strength solely based on the caste pride, in such places SC’s feel neglected or not given enough importance. Why would SC voter will vote for kapu pride ? Perhaps they will vote for a party that cushions them than to the party who seeks mandate for caste pride.

If that's the case, no SC or BC will vote for YCP in Rayala Seema and all Reddy constituencies, too much kula gajji, kula ahankaram. Espcially SCs meedha chala Reddy atrocities nadichayi. Punch Prabhakar lantollu Mala lam***ka ani thittadam, Gunturr Hari Krishna Reddy ane vaadu Reddy batch ni vesukoni velli Maala sodarala meedha dhaadi, recent ga Ongole lo inko SC person meedha uccha poyadam...abbo cheppukuntu pothe chala unnayi main stread media lo report cheyyanavi.

[venkappa]

26 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Not just resentment but also caste pride from other castes will also create an insecurity among SC’s. For example, In the Godavari districts where Janasena appears to have gained strength solely based on the caste pride, in such places SC’s feel neglected or not given enough importance. Why would SC voter will vote for kapu pride ? Perhaps they will vote for a party that cushions them than to the party who seeks mandate for caste pride.

I mean I have seen resentment for other castes be big factor. I know some voted Congress or YCP just because they hate Pasupus. Sandranna appeasing Cops was unacceptable for BCs. They voted Zaganna in response.

[Android_Halwa]

39 minutes ago, venkappa said:

I mean I have seen resentment for other castes be big factor. I know some voted Congress or YCP just because they hate Pasupus. Sandranna appeasing Cops was unacceptable for BCs. They voted Zaganna in response.

Exactly, that’s how caste voting works. You appease one caste and ignite caste pride, you tend to loose support of other castes. This is predominant among the regional parties than national.

[venkappa]

23 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

Exactly, that’s how caste voting works. You appease one caste and ignite caste pride, you tend to loose support of other castes. This is predominant among the regional parties than national.

Many of the people I mentioned weren’t exactly fanatics of their own caste. They just have deep hatred of other caste because of dominance or bullying by them.

[Gnan_anna_reloaded]

On 12/13/2023 at 12:54 AM, southyx said:

Not all SCs, only Mala. SCs lo Mala, Madiga rendu major castes. Malas don't have core profession(chethi vrutthulu). This has helped them pursuing other things, hence they utilised the reservations and became educated. They were also influenced by Britishers and most of them converted into Christianity. Damodaram Sanjivayya was the first Dalit Indian CM. So obvisouly they will align with Congress. Congress = Brahmin+Mala core vote bank from the early days along with Reddys. Reddys slowly dominated sidelining the Brahmins and Malas in the higher positions. But the vote bank stayed due to Congress top leadership. Schemes like Indirimma illu, land helped the educated SCs utulizing them. Now coming to Madigas, Madigas core profession - Cheppulu kuttadm. They continued that, hence they didn't climb the ladder quickly in education, politics or business. After TDP started in 1983, good number of Madigas are given the seats, Mothukupalli is TG is prime example, I guess he was OU student and probably around 25 years old when he got the ticket. So Madigas have been pro-TDP for long. When CBN was CM, YSR tried changing that by introducing the SC categorization which will help Madigas because Madigas are slighly higher in numbers but the educated Malas have been utilizing majority of SC reservation. CBN also supported the SC categorization which went to the supreme court and Madiga porata samithi fighting still. In the meantime, the Christianization of Madigas also in progress, especially during YSR rule and there after especially in Seema, Godari, Guntur, Prakasham Dists. Churches helped them moving towards YCP. in 2019 elections both Mala, Madiga majority people voted for YCP.

I think narsimhulu was an independent candidate when he stood for first time in election, my family comes from his constituency...appatlo youth chala mandhi thanaki support chesindranta including my father and pedha nanna...manodu sc card ni super ga utilise chesukuntadu...oka sari nomination veyadaniki oka ooregimpu tho velladu adhey time lo madhava Reddy kuda nomination veyadaniki ochindanta...rendu gumpulu kalisesariki oka stampede situation aindhanta...akkada em jarigindhi thelvadhu kani manodu sc jabatti madhavareddy nannu thosesindu ani constituency motham full oracharam chesukundu and sc andaru one side ga votelu guddhi bumper majority tho gelipinchindranta!!!

P s- this incident was shared by my pedha nanna!

[Telugodura456]

On 12/13/2023 at 1:27 PM, Android_Halwa said:

Exactly, that’s how caste voting works. You appease one caste and ignite caste pride, you tend to loose support of other castes. This is predominant among the regional parties than national.

Nee thalakayi. thats now how caste pride works - atleast in coastal andhra .

Caste people voluntarily fight for their own political parties to showcase their already achieved success. They are not planning to achieve success through politics - it is already there. politics is prestige battle.

thats why PK dropped kapu's BC demand. Infact they sacrifice.

CBN gave benefits to brahmins but not kammas.

 

[Telugodura456]

But in rayalaseema and in tg ..castes survive on politics. politics is essential to their caste economy. thats why they troll so much and show so much desperation to win.

[Android_Halwa]

30 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

CBN gave benefits to brahmins but not kammas.

Of course….Idi Nuv cheppala…!!! 

Intaki ae benefits ? CBN have everything to everyone…lol

[Teluguredu]

25 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

But in rayalaseema and in tg ..castes survive on politics. politics is essential to their caste economy. thats why they troll so much and show so much desperation to win.

Only krishna, Nellore and godavari districts are different, guntur ,prakasham are again the same as Seema.

Any place with high number of feudal castes tend to be backward.

[Android_Halwa]

20 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Only krishna, Nellore and godavari districts are different, guntur ,prakasham are again the same as Seema.

Any place with high number of feudal castes tend to be backward.

Caste system kanipettindi CBN ae anta kada…

[venkappa]

27 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Only krishna, Nellore and godavari districts are different, guntur ,prakasham are again the same as Seema.

Any place with high number of feudal castes tend to be backward.

Nellore has lots of Cheddys. Krishna has lots of Pasupus. Godavari has Razulu, Cops, and some Pasupus. There are feudal castes in these jillas?

[Telugodura456]

2 minutes ago, venkappa said:

Nellore has lots of Cheddys. Krishna has lots of Pasupus. Godavari has Razulu, Cops, and some Pasupus. There are feudal castes in these jillas?

No they are not feudal. Feudal castes are mostly teddies and doras in tg and parts of rayalaseema. 

These castes are market oriented.

[venkappa]

5 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

No they are not feudal. Feudal castes are mostly teddies and doras in tg and parts of rayalaseema. 

These castes are market oriented.

So Cheddys in Nellore are market oriented instead of feudal?

[Telugodura456]

42 minutes ago, venkappa said:

So Cheddys in Nellore are market oriented instead of feudal?

i dont know that specifically. but in nalgonda reddies used to be feudal but changed more to farrmers. Major differences :

a) Feudals dont work and dont even manage but earn though others work - like vetti chakiri. But market oriented upper castes actually cultivate the lands very actively.

b) Political power is fundamental to feudals they dont see point of acquring actual skills such as say media, business, pharma. Because the best power is when you can control others bodies. This is rampant in telangana and rayalaseema.