#southtaxmovement

[Android_Halwa]

8 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

We will occupy it.it belongs to us.

lol...occupy anta...belongs to us anta....etla ? fishing boats esukuni poi occupy sestara ?

[Piracy Raja]

13 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

Yeah, Pakistan and China lanti border issues vundavu but north India ane country tho vuntadi border issue….rio grande nundi goda dunki America ki vachinattu vastaru….

Pakistan and China border ae better emo..

appudu kosi karam pedatam uncle north india batch ki, avasram ayite china/USA support tesukundamu 

[Piracy Raja]

7 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

lol...occupy anta...belongs to us anta....etla ? fishing boats esukuni poi occupy sestara ?

appatalo ONGC vallavi Reliance lo dobesaru kada, alage manam kooda dobedamu 

[Pavanonline]

9 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

 North outsiders aa ? India is a union. The labour to power agriculture and enterprise in South is coming from north. A part of inflation both food and services is being mitigated by northerners. A large chunk of their states have huge mineral deposits that are being excavated and processed. If Andhra politicians are not solving problems among themselves due to their cases, why brand their incapability on northerners? Just accept Modi and Shah to be above Baboru or Jagan in politics. I'd prefer them anyday over regional parties where the leader is coming from a single family. It's inevitable, BJP will be making inroads into Andhra in next 5-7 years.

You are making kichdi of the issue. All you are saying that north states are contributing should be part of their tax contribution as well. You are blindly supporting because BJP is in power and if someday if other party comes back you'll reverse. No one is saying there should be 100% equality in distribution but the parity so so huge.

[Joker23]

22 hours ago, Vaaaampire said:

Correction. Tn always gets it share afaik in one or other form

true bro. Vallu ela gola lagutharu ...kaani migatha states ki  antha scene ledhu. 

JalliKattu they proved themselves...center kooda emi peeka leka poindhi. 

They are super mondi on getting funds from central 

 

[CanadianMalodu]

22 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

You are making kichdi of the issue. All you are saying that north states are contributing should be part of their tax contribution as well. You are blindly supporting because BJP is in power and if someday if other party comes back you'll reverse. No one is saying there should be 100% equality in distribution but the parity so so huge.

Nah, you didn't understand what I wrote. Two aspects to the topic. First things first.  To tax is a compulsion of any government. There is no escape. All you can do is to ask how the monies are spent. If the centre is spending it on Northern states, to improve their living standards and create infrastructure and enterprise there what's wrong in it? What do you want the centre to do? 

Did South come from the Sky and dropped as advanced states? Who authorized FDI into India ? Did centre not spend a dime on Southern states?  Do states have capacity to do so ? In a union, free movement of labour and goods is guaranteed by constitution.

The northern contribution.The growth of South has a larger northern contribution to it. You need to acknowledge it first, instead of acting like an impulsive teenager. Where do you think labour comes from to construct skyscrapers in Bangalore, Hyderabad while you  are in a North American grind? Where do you iron is coming from? Are all the IT/TECH/Manufacturing entirely made up of Indians from South? How comes big business houses like Tatas, Mahindras, Wipro are from North ?  Do South Indian business men don't take up projects in North?  How would you like the US scenario? California and Texas contribute to taxes due to huge capital and human resources  inflow so federal government should stop spending on mid west and other plantation states? Do you apply same logic within the same state to districts? Did you ever ask, Why should revenue from Hyderabad be spent on Adilabad or Karimnagar? Or why should revenue from VIZAG be spent on Kadapa or Kurnool? 

 

[Pavanonline]

3 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Nah, you didn't understand what I wrote. Two aspects to the topic. First to tax is a compulsion of any government. There is no escape. All you can do is to ask how the monies are spent. If the centre is spending it on Northern states, to improve their living standards and create enterprise there what's wrong in it? What do you want the centre to do? 

Did South come from the Sky and dropped as advanced states? Who authorized FDI into India ? Did centre not spend a dime on South states?  Do states have capacity to do so ? In a union, free movement of labour and goods is guaranteed by constitution.

The northern contribution.The growth of South has a larger northern contribution to it. You need to acknowledge it first, instead of acting like an impulsive teenager. Where do you think labour comes from to construct skyscrapers in Bangalore, Hyderabad while you  are in a North American grind? Where do you iron is coming from? Are all the IT/TECH/Manufacturing entirely made up of Indians from South? How comes big business houses like Tatas, Mahindras, Wipro are from North ?  Do South Indian business men don't take up projects in North?  How would you like US scenario. California and Texas contribute to taxes due to huge capital and human resources  inflow so federal government stop spending on mid west and other plantation states?

 

again kichdi statements, what you are talking about is business transactions. Of course people from north are coming here because there are more opportunities. That doesn't mean north states or the central govt is contributing here. What has that got to do with tax structure? If people are going to Singapore and work does that mean Singapore now owes India some tax revenue? Similarly people are going to Maharashtra as well, their share only got bigger under the pay structure. CA and TX generate more dollars and will also get more tax dollars, see the difference? Again no one is saying "not to spend" in other states, that's something you are making up to argue.

[Telugodura456]

13 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Nah, you didn't understand what I wrote. Two aspects to the topic. First things first.  To tax is a compulsion of any government. There is no escape. All you can do is to ask how the monies are spent. If the centre is spending it on Northern states, to improve their living standards and create infrastructure and enterprise there what's wrong in it? What do you want the centre to do? 

Did South come from the Sky and dropped as advanced states? Who authorized FDI into India ? Did centre not spend a dime on Southern states?  Do states have capacity to do so ? In a union, free movement of labour and goods is guaranteed by constitution.

The northern contribution.The growth of South has a larger northern contribution to it. You need to acknowledge it first, instead of acting like an impulsive teenager. Where do you think labour comes from to construct skyscrapers in Bangalore, Hyderabad while you  are in a North American grind? Where do you iron is coming from? Are all the IT/TECH/Manufacturing entirely made up of Indians from South? How comes big business houses like Tatas, Mahindras, Wipro are from North ?  Do South Indian business men don't take up projects in North?  How would you like the US scenario? California and Texas contribute to taxes due to huge capital and human resources  inflow so federal government should stop spending on mid west and other plantation states? Do you apply same logic within the same state to districts? Did you ever ask, Why should revenue from Hyderabad be spent on Adilabad or Karimnagar? Or why should revenue from VIZAG be spent on Kadapa or Kurnool? 

 

pakka paid jaffa - bhakth combination laaga unnav. Are you clone or belonging to @Raven_Rayes group ?

US has more state rights than india. far more. even though all of them are mostly white protestants.

In india every state has its own language and literally a nation. But has lesser rights.

Stop bullshitting.

[Telugodura456]

1 minute ago, Pavanonline said:

again kichdi statements, what you are talking about is business transactions. Of course people from north are coming here because there are more opportunities. That doesn't mean north states or the central govt is contributing here. What has that got to do with tax structure? If people are going to Singapore and work does that mean Singapore now owes India some tax revenue? Similarly people are going to Maharashtra as well, their share only got bigger under the pay structure. CA and TX generate more dollars and will also get more tax dollars, see the difference? Again no one is saying "not to spend" in other states, that's something you are making up to argue.

vaadi thalakay. In Us - their federal govt does not do sales tax. Most of the money they make from federal taxes they redistribute through social security/medicare and some goes to dfense.

In india states have far lesser rights. On top of it they are culturally insulted by forcing them to learn another language just to belong to their own country.

[Vaaaampire]

47 minutes ago, Joker23 said:

true bro. Vallu ela gola lagutharu ...kaani migatha states ki  antha scene ledhu. 

JalliKattu they proved themselves...center kooda emi peeka leka poindhi. 

They are super mondi on getting funds from central 

 

When it comes to tamil traditions & rights, all tamilians will unite. 
kcr was successful in doing the same with tg movement. He put all the parties in the spot where they had to support sep tg.

this was missing in special status agitation. When students wanted to start agitation, had the govt supported it and all parties supported, may be ap would have got ss. 
 

jallikattu udyamam was successful because state govt fully supported & funded it.

[CanadianMalodu]

51 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

again kichdi statements, what you are talking about is business transactions. Of course people from north are coming here because there are more opportunities. That doesn't mean north states or the central govt is contributing here. What has that got to do with tax structure? If people are going to Singapore and work does that mean Singapore now owes India some tax revenue? Similarly people are going to Maharashtra as well, their share only got bigger under the pay structure. CA and TX generate more dollars and will also get more tax dollars, see the difference? Again no one is saying "not to spend" in other states, that's something you are making up to argue.

And who created those opportunities? I don't know if you aware as to how Indian governance works. Without Central government approval investments don't flow into India. It's the central government that has pushed the base for development in South. State governments merely aided it. There is no proportional tax redistribution in India by state basis. The gravity of population difference is so huge across the states when compared to one another (Karnataka vs Utter Pradesh), so the absolute numbers of tax money look big. Well US is a federal country like no other, but India is still quasi federal with Union government having a major say. California and Texas also get more tax $ because a lot more people live there than in say in Mississippi or Louisiana. It's opposite in India, as I stated above states like UP, Bihar, Madhya Pradesh are home to large percentage of population. Singapore is a moot logic. You are talking of same country where labour is free to move and share the burden of infrastructure, energy and security (external, internal, food and health) thereby facilitating the absorption of inflation. What if labour from Bihar and UP doesn't work for the wages in Bangalore and Hyderabad?  How do you compare that with expat earnings in Singapore, when it's a separate country. On one side you say 'none is saying not to spend' and on the other side you say 'we are receiving to little' which one is it ?  

[CanadianMalodu]

44 minutes ago, Telugodura456 said:

pakka paid jaffa - bhakth combination laaga unnav. Are you clone or belonging to @Raven_Rayes group ?

US has more state rights than india. far more. even though all of them are mostly white protestants.

In india every state has its own language and literally a nation. But has lesser rights.

Stop bullshitting.

This is already known. 

That doesn't make each state a nation. Nations that are carved out of India are having very rough times. You have Pakistan and Bangladesh to see it for yourself.

[Pavanonline]

4 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

What if Labour from Bihar and UP doesn't work for the wages in Bangalore and Hyderabad?

Nothing, people here will take up the jobs, It'll be less profit for the builder but that's it. This is really stupid argument. No govt plays a role in how people move for work. Are you saying Central govt can stop people from going to other states to work? Even if so what has that got to do with Taxing. 

 

16 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Singapore is a moot logic. You are talking of same country where labour is free to move and shared burden of infrastructure, energy and security (external, internal, food and health)

You are one arguing that movement of people has something to do with govts. All this "sharing" is what I'm saying should be reasonable. The argument here is about the money after removing central spending like defense and running govt. 

 

9 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

With Central government approval investments don't flow into India. It's the central government that has pushed the base for development in South

This is completely delusional, if you think govts are responsible for business growth. By this logic why central govt didn't push development in north? Even if true again nothing to with Tax structure unless you are arguing Central govt is responsible for southern states. 

 

12 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

On one side you say 'none is saying not to spend' and on the other side you say 'we are receiving to little' which one is it ?

What is the contradiction here? What's wrong in asking for getting 70 per 100 when we're getting 40 for 100? 

Clearly your understanding of govt function is different to reality. You seem to be in illusion that somehow central govt is monitoring what areas to develop and without central govt south wouldn't develop and in the same stretch don't hold central govt responsible for not developing north states.

 

[CanadianMalodu]

3 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

Nothing, people here will take up the jobs, It'll be less profit for the builder but that's it. This is really stupid argument. No govt plays a role in how people move for work. Are you saying Central govt can stop people from going to other states to work? Even if so what has that got to do with Taxing. 

 

You are one arguing that movement of people has something to do with govts. All this "sharing" is what I'm saying should be reasonable. The argument here is about the money after removing central spending like defense and running govt. 

 

This is completely delusional, if you think govts are responsible for business growth. By this logic why central govt didn't push development in north? Even if true again nothing to with Tax structure unless you are arguing Central govt is responsible for southern states. 

 

What is the contradiction here? What's wrong in asking for getting 70 per 100 when we're getting 40 for 100? 

Clearly your understanding of govt function is different to reality. You seem to be in illusion that somehow central govt is monitoring what areas to develop and without central govt south wouldn't develop and in the same stretch don't hold central govt responsible for not developing north states.

 

#1 Or pass it on to customer. Which is why inflation is trickle down effect. The same reason why many Mexicans come to US for work cheap labour. Where did I say this ? No didn't say that. All I'm saying is free movement of labour ensure cheap supply of labour within India which acts as a sort of cushion for some amount of inflation.

#2 Infra development is central spending as well. Not just defense and running government.

#3 Ofcourse, government policies are the ones that push business growth. If government tries to push for state control, then there will be no private business. Even old Hyderabad was built by erstwhile Nizams on the backs of taxes from peasants. Who said they didn't? You have a Delhi and Chandigarh right? All things are not equal across states in India to push homogenous development. They are now trying develop UP. It takes time. 

#4 Nothing wrong perse. Ask, where did I say not to ask. To press the central government requires political will. The Telugu states lack that as they cannot come and band together like the Tamils. Like I said why blame Baboru and Jagan political inefficiencies on Centre? 

#5 Ofcourse it does. Hyderabad and Banglore and even Chennai developed because the centre chose these areas and designated them for development. They established central institutes to aid the transformation while approving the FDI inflow and setting up back offices here.  State governments aided as catalysts, but it's not state governments themselves that did all this.  All the states did not have same base to start with post independence nor have the same trajectory. The spending priorities depend on needs of the state. 

[Telugodura456]

1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said:

This is already known. 

That doesn't make each state a nation. Nations that are carved out of India are having very rough times. You have Pakistan and Bangladesh to see it for yourself.

Pakistan is a mirror image of india. THey dont respect state rights, state languages. Like hindi they have urdu.

But bangladesh is doing much better than india and even west bengal too. And it is only accelrating.

Infact even now north india is more economically backward than pakistan. North indian elites however are enjoying the wealth supplied by others.