How do you deal with this situation?

[Hyderabad_Developers]

2 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

ippatikaina all the things document chesukoo; like when HR mentions relocation istaru when you are rehired all that sorts. 

 

Vaadu ichina old options anni ippudu Ela document cheyyali ardam kaavatle.

 

Last HR email(voluntary resignation accepted) anna daaniki maathram, I still wanted to review relocation numbers before resigning as we discussed in last meeting ani petta. Just to tell my side of things I have not resigned yet.

[Hyderabad_Developers]

6 minutes ago, Vaaaampire said:

If u have everything in written what ur mgr said, forward it to hr and you can even sue them. Else just pay back the relocation fee and move on.

imo its not just ur mgr fault. Ur at fault too. You did not even do basic research on how fmla, parenting leave works. Ippudu resign chesi malli rehire pedha comedy

I agree. Nenu min research cheyyalsindi... manager confidence and FMLA and parental leave are dealt by 3rd party kada, research we do is immaterial as their decision is final Ani peddaga peddaga pattinchukole.

Comedy enti ante 3rd party kuda 2 weeks of paid parental and another 6 weeks unpaid is eligible Ani pettadu. But that was in office email and which I don't have access to now.

[Vaaaampire]

1 minute ago, Hyderabad_Developers said:

I agree. Nenu min research cheyyalsindi... manager confidence and FMLA and parental leave are dealt by 3rd party kada, research we do is immaterial as their decision is final Ani peddaga peddaga pattinchukole.

Comedy enti ante 3rd party kuda 2 weeks of paid parental and another 6 weeks unpaid is eligible Ani pettadu. But that was in office email and which I don't have access to now.

Parenting leave comes after birth(women ki pre-delivery 4-6 weeks leave untadi). This is same across company. If some 3rd party did say they will allow parenting leave before birth, u can sue them. 

[lollilolli2020]

9 minutes ago, Hyderabad_Developers said:

Vaadu ichina old options anni ippudu Ela document cheyyali ardam kaavatle.

 

Last HR email(voluntary resignation accepted) anna daaniki maathram, I still wanted to review relocation numbers before resigning as we discussed in last meeting ani petta. Just to tell my side of things I have not resigned yet.

antha timeline pogesi raayi; this is what transpired between us ani. 

relocation pay vs vacation pay eedi ekkuva; 

[Hyderabad_Developers]

6 minutes ago, Vaaaampire said:

Parenting leave comes after birth(women ki pre-delivery 4-6 weeks leave untadi). This is same across company. If some 3rd party did say they will allow parenting leave before birth, u can sue them. 

They said after baby arrives. But company says I am eligible for only 2 weeks of paid parental leave. Not 6 weeks of unpaid as 3rd party states even after baby arrives.

[Hyderabad_Developers]

3 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

antha timeline pogesi raayi; this is what transpired between us ani. 

relocation pay vs vacation pay eedi ekkuva; 

Relocation pay huge.

HR said it won't be too much because it is still in truck so we can call it wash off annadu and we will make contractual agreement. But Relocation bill pampinaaka nenu shock. So HR kuda plate thipputhaadu anipisthundi.

[BulletBaskar]

12 hours ago, Hyderabad_Developers said:

I wanted until last week. Ippudu repayment kadithe daanni recover kosam aina vellali anipisthundi but it's heat of the moment.

Job problem ledu I can get another in couple days.

em tech bro needi

antha confident ga chepthe adagali anipinchindi

[Hyderabad_Developers]

33 minutes ago, BulletBaskar said:

em tech bro needi

antha confident ga chepthe adagali anipinchindi

Tech common ye baa... electrical side.

Just previous employers good relationship and previous managers are still my mentors. Valla H1-Bs kuda ee year end varaku valid unnay.

[Konebhar6]

16 hours ago, Hyderabad_Developers said:

Long story but please try to be patient and read. Posting for some suggestions and also for others educational purposes.

Sequence of things happened:

• Got an offer letter in January 2024. Meeting about start date discussion with my Manager. I said I can join in May since it is a high risk pregnancy and I need to be with my wife. Wife is in India and we wanted baby in India for various reasons.
• Manager said we need you urgently, you can Join in February and be onsite for 2 weeks to get familiarized and work 5 weeks remote. So I travelled to US stayed for 2 weeks and flew back to India for 5 weeks Remote.
• During these 5 weeks I kept close conversation with Manager about my wife's due date and manager said you can take Paternity leave and FMLA etc.
• Flew back to USA after the remote work and discuss about about the strategy while I am gone.
• Doctor said due date could between April 15 to May 15th given her situation.
• When I discussed the due date with manager, he involved HR and HR said I cannot utilize FMLA(since its not been a year with company) and cannot use Parental leave because the babies are not born yet. I cannot work remotely because I already worked for 5 weeks and company policy does not allow any more.
• I did not relocate until 3 days ago since I had my current lease. Since my manager said I can use FMLA etc etc, I trusted my manager and shipped all my stuff 2 days before they denied FMLA, parental leave etc.
• Since there were no options and Job is nothing compared to the babies, I said I can resign and if you want you can rehire. My manager really liked me so setup an interview at the end of May to rehire and he said it will be a simple one call interview.

Now the problem starts:

• HR said you will have to repay the Relocation since it is going to be a quit and rehire.
• I said I would like to review the repay amount before quitting since it could be very high and will break me financially. I still wanted to travel to India and utilize my accrued vacation days while we discuss repayment numbers and come to a conclusion.
• I left my computer and badge in my office since I won't need them in India whether I resign or take vacation while the relocation discussion is going on.
• All of sudden HR sent me an email saying they accepted my Voluntary resignation and I need to repay Relocation amount. And my accrued vacation are lost because of they accepted resignation.
• This was extremely shocking to me. I know it seems some information is  missing but I feel that way too.
• Another thing that my HR said.... they can make a contract to waive off relocation payment if I lose my vacation days. MY manager was in this meeting along with me.

Next Steps:

• I am going to set up a meeting with HR and my manager and ask why they assumed I voluntarily resigned.
• Ask about the repayment waive off agreement but I am having feeling they will flip and say they cannot make any agreement now.

Suggestion and Learnings:

What are my options here and where could I have improvised?

Should I even consider attending the rehire interview or just repay the relocation(~15K) and call it a day.

TIA.

 

Your manager messed up and not HR. HR has their standard policies and lay out to everyone the same way. Your manager probably did not know about the 1 yr rule for FMLA.

• If you do not have many options for jobs, look into re-hire.
• Keeping this matter aside, were you happy with your manager overall? If yes you should look for re-hire.
• If you do not like this manager at all, why do you even want to consider re-hire. It does not matter if the company is good or not.  

[Hyderabad_Developers]

17 minutes ago, Konebhar6 said:

Your manager messed up and not HR. HR has their standard policies and lay out to everyone the same way. Your manager probably did not know about the 1 yr rule for FMLA.

• If you do not have many options for jobs, look into re-hire.
• Keeping this matter aside, were you happy with your manager overall? If yes you should look for re-hire.
• If you do not like this manager at all, why do you even want to consider re-hire. It does not matter if the company is good or not.  

Manager is good... That's the whole point of rehire etc etc.

Relocation repayment is the issue here. I also lost accrued Personal vacation because of this assumed quitting. This is not huge but Relocation repayment is.

[Konebhar6]

11 minutes ago, Hyderabad_Developers said:

Manager is good... That's the whole point of rehire etc etc.

Relocation repayment is the issue here. I also lost accrued Personal vacation because of this assumed quitting. This is not huge but Relocation repayment is.

Then go for it. Have a chat with him and ask him what he can do to minimize your losses. If they cannot, pay and move on with the job. Its not worth breaking your head for things you have no control over. 

[Hyderabad_Developers]

Nee yamma meeting pedithe kuda accept cheytyaledu invitation. Idem unprofessionalism ra Naayana. Skip level request chestha...