Land Titling Act Victim

[maxmillions]

[psycontr]

22 minutes ago, maxmillions said:

Act is not implemented yet. How come he is a victim of act which was yet to implemented ?

The correct usage is victim of current system.

[Sreeven]

31 minutes ago, psycontr said:

Act is not implemented yet. How come he is a victim of act which was yet to implemented ?

The correct usage is victim of current system.

Ade magic 😀😀😀

[maxmillions]

29 minutes ago, psycontr said:

Act is not implemented yet. How come he is a victim of act which was yet to implemented ?

The correct usage is victim of current system.

It was passed in 2022,  the status of his land that was grabbed remains unknown because of this new act, he couldnt challenge and there is considerable amount of time being taken to confirm any detail by the officers who say they cant work because of the new act and the pending survey. So if u want to sell ur land which was intentionally marked as  disputed by these surveyors and grabbed, they wont give u the land documents of the grabbed land blaming the new act which requires comprehensive survey, do u support that?

[maxmillions]

6 minutes ago, Sreeven said:

Ade magic 😀😀😀

it was passed in 2022,  the status of his land that was grabbed remains unknown because of this new act, he couldnt challenge and there is considerable amount of time being taken to confirm any detail by the officers who say they cant work because of the new act and the pending survey. So if u want to sell ur land which was intentionally marked as  disputed by these surveyors and grabbed, they wont give u the land documents of the grabbed land blaming the new act which requires comprehensive survey, do u support that?, hope ur land gets into disuptes by surveyors and its lost and u r unable to do anything with it.

[CanadianMalodu]

2 minutes ago, maxmillions said:

It was passed in 2022,  the status of his land that was grabbed remains unknown because of this new act, he couldnt challenge and there is considerable amount of time being taken to confirm any detail by the officers who say they cant work because of the new act and the pending survey. So if u want to sell ur land which was intentionally marked as  disputed by these surveyors and grabbed, they wont give u the land documents of the grabbed land blaming the new act which requires comprehensive survey, do u support that?

The act was challenged in Andhra high court and divisional bench stayed it's implementation until further notice. Dani meaning emante, ippudu yadha Tatha sthithi nadusthundhi.

[maxmillions]

 

  

18 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

The act was challenged in Andhra high court and divisional bench stayed it's implementation until further notice. Dani meaning emante, ippudu yadha Tatha sthithi nadusthundhi.

surveyors are manipulating and delaying the delivery of documents citing miscellaneous reasons,

Even as an intense debate is raging on the likely consequences of Andhra Pradesh (AP) Land Titling Act, 2023 (APLTA) for the land - owners, retired IAS officer P.V. Ramesh posted a message on X (formerly Twitter) that he was a victim of APLTA even before it came into force. 

Mr. Ramesh, who was a special chief secretary to Chief Minister Y.S. Jagan Mohan Reddy, stated that officials of the Revenue Department turned down his request for mutation of lands at Vinnakota village in Gudlavalleru Mandal of Krishna district owned by his parents. 

 

He pointed out that the RDO returned his documents (sent through post) without having a look at them. 

“My right over the lands owned by my parents was denied before the Act became operative. If this is my position as an IAS officer who had served the State for 36 years, it is not difficult to imagine the plight of common farmers”, he observed. 

 

RDOs are delaying and working on behest of land grabbers, note that not getting land on time is a big issue too.

[maxmillions]

  

18 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

The act was challenged in Andhra high court and divisional bench stayed it's implementation until further notice. Dani meaning emante, ippudu yadha Tatha sthithi nadusthundhi.

surveyors are manipulating and delaying the delivery of documents citing miscellaneous reasons,

Even as an intense debate is raging on the likely consequences of Andhra Pradesh (AP) Land Titling Act, 2023 (APLTA) for the land - owners, retired IAS officer P.V. Ramesh posted a message on X (formerly Twitter) that he was a victim of APLTA even before it came into force. 

Mr. Ramesh, who was a special chief secretary to Chief Minister Y.S. Jagan Mohan Reddy, stated that officials of the Revenue Department turned down his request for mutation of lands at Vinnakota village in Gudlavalleru Mandal of Krishna district owned by his parents. 

 

He pointed out that the RDO returned his documents (sent through post) without having a look at them. 

“My right over the lands owned by my parents was denied before the Act became operative. If this is my position as an IAS officer who had served the State for 36 years, it is not difficult to imagine the plight of common farmers”, he observed. 

 

RDOs are delaying and working on behest of land grabbers, note that not getting land on time is a big issue too.

[psycontr]

46 minutes ago, maxmillions said:

it was passed in 2022,  the status of his land that was grabbed remains unknown because of this new act, he couldnt challenge and there is considerable amount of time being taken to confirm any detail by the officers who say they cant work because of the new act and the pending survey. So if u want to sell ur land which was intentionally marked as  disputed by these surveyors and grabbed, they wont give u the land documents of the grabbed land blaming the new act which requires comprehensive survey, do u support that?, hope ur land gets into disuptes by surveyors and its lost and u r unable to do anything with it.

Act was never implemented due to court stay. If it was new act govt will be liable to show his missing land or else compensate.

[maxmillions]

14 minutes ago, psycontr said:

Act was never implemented due to court stay. If it was new act govt will be liable to show his missing land or else compensate.

Difference between NITI ayog land titling and ysrcp land titling:

Appointment of TROs: While NITI Aayog recommended appointing specific officers as TROs, the AP Act allows any individual to be appointed, raising concerns about potential bias and lack of expertise.

Dispute Resolution: The central government's proposal included a robust dispute resolution mechanism with multiple levels of appeal. The AP Act, however, appears to have a less comprehensive system, potentially leaving landowners with limited options in case of disputes.

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If it was new act govt will be liable to show his missing land or else compensate." -

Read the act before u speak - https://prsindia.org/files/bills_acts/bills_states/andhra-pradesh/2022/Bill No. 28 of 2022 AP.pdf - there is nothing written about compensation here, when title registering officers are appointed as per their wish, see, under new act one has to go to high court for disputes how is it liable? how can one come to high court which is always busy and which is far away from most people? 

Chapter 6:

37. ( 1) The Land Titling Appellate Offi.cer shall not be bound by
the procedure aid down by the Code of Civil Procedure 1908 but
shall be guided by the principles of natural justice. Subject to the
provisions of this act and Rules, the Land titling Appellate Officer
regulate its procedure, including duration of oral hearings, when
granted, and times of its inquiry as may be prescribed.
 

38. No civil court shall have jurisdiction to entertain any
·proceedings in respect of any matter, in which any Title
Registration Officer and Land titling Appellate Officer appointed
under this Act, are empowered by or under this Act to determine." and also titling officers are immune to civil procedure!! 

and Chapter IX:

67(1). No legal proceedings or any other claim or action, shall lie
against any person for anything done in good faith under this Act
or the Rules and regulations made there under.
6,7(2J. "No courts shall take cognizance of an offence
punishable under the Section except with the previous
sanction of the authority constituted under Chapter V of the
Bill"'.
68. (1) The State Government may, by notification in the Official ·
Gazette, make Rules to carry out the provisions of this Act. The
21st SEPTEMBER, 2022] ANDHRA PRADESH GAZETTE EXTRAORDINARY
authority shall make necessary regulations to guide its
functioning.
(2) In particular. and without prejudice to the generality of
Lhe foregoing powers .1c such Rules and regulations may provide for
the:
(a) Manner of preparation, compilation, maintenance and
amendment of the Registers, and prescribing the forms
in which they are to be compiled or maintained, the
places at which, and the officer by whom Registers
have to be maintained, and the officer by whom the
said entries are to be verified and amended;
(b) Maintenance of other records, registers, accounts,
maps and plans for the purpose of this Act and the
manner and forms in which they shall be prepared and
maintained;
(c) Inspection of the records I registers and documents
1nainta.ined under this Act and t:h.e fees for the grant of
copies thereof or extracts therefrom;
(d) Procedure to be followed in making enquiries. and
hearing appeals unde r this Act;
(e) Manner of transferring Immovable properly and any
rights contained therein;
(1) Procedure -for appointment of various officers under
this Act;
(g) Salaries and terms of appointn1ent of various officers
under this Act
(h) Method of inquiry by the Title Registration officer before making
entries in the Register"

 

So you allow anyone to be Title registration officers, paving the way for your people to be the tile registration officers, and you give immunity to them from civil procedure?

[psycontr]

1 minute ago, maxmillions said:

Difference between NITI ayog land titling and ysrcp land titling:

Appointment of TROs: While NITI Aayog recommended appointing specific officers as TROs, the AP Act allows any individual to be appointed, raising concerns about potential bias and lack of expertise.

Dispute Resolution: The central government's proposal included a robust dispute resolution mechanism with multiple levels of appeal. The AP Act, however, appears to have a less comprehensive system, potentially leaving landowners with limited options in case of disputes.

".

If it was new act govt will be liable to show his missing land or else compensate." -

Read the act before u speak - https://prsindia.org/files/bills_acts/bills_states/andhra-pradesh/2022/Bill No. 28 of 2022 AP.pdf - there is nothing written about compensation here, when title registering officers are appointed as per their wish, see, under new act one has to go to high court for disputes how is it liable? how can one come to high court which is always busy and which is far away from most people? 

Chapter 6:

37. ( 1) The Land Titling Appellate Offi.cer shall not be bound by
the procedure aid down by the Code of Civil Procedure 1908 but
shall be guided by the principles of natural justice. Subject to the
provisions of this act and Rules, the Land titling Appellate Officer
regulate its procedure, including duration of oral hearings, when
granted, and times of its inquiry as may be prescribed.
 

38. No civil court shall have jurisdiction to entertain any
·proceedings in respect of any matter, in which any Title
Registration Officer and Land titling Appellate Officer appointed
under this Act, are empowered by or under this Act to determine." and also titling officers are immune to civil procedure!! 

and Chapter IX:

67(1). No legal proceedings or any other claim or action, shall lie
against any person for anything done in good faith under this Act
or the Rules and regulations made there under.
6,7(2J. "No courts shall take cognizance of an offence
punishable under the Section except with the previous
sanction of the authority constituted under Chapter V of the
Bill"'.
68. (1) The State Government may, by notification in the Official ·
Gazette, make Rules to carry out the provisions of this Act. The
21st SEPTEMBER, 2022] ANDHRA PRADESH GAZETTE EXTRAORDINARY
authority shall make necessary regulations to guide its
functioning.
(2) In particular. and without prejudice to the generality of
Lhe foregoing powers .1c such Rules and regulations may provide for
the:
(a) Manner of preparation, compilation, maintenance and
amendment of the Registers, and prescribing the forms
in which they are to be compiled or maintained, the
places at which, and the officer by whom Registers
have to be maintained, and the officer by whom the
said entries are to be verified and amended;
(b) Maintenance of other records, registers, accounts,
maps and plans for the purpose of this Act and the
manner and forms in which they shall be prepared and
maintained;
(c) Inspection of the records I registers and documents
1nainta.ined under this Act and t:h.e fees for the grant of
copies thereof or extracts therefrom;
(d) Procedure to be followed in making enquiries. and
hearing appeals unde r this Act;
(e) Manner of transferring Immovable properly and any
rights contained therein;
(1) Procedure -for appointment of various officers under
this Act;
(g) Salaries and terms of appointn1ent of various officers
under this Act
(h) Method of inquiry by the Title Registration officer before making
entries in the Register"

 

So you allow anyone to be Title registration officers, paving the way for your people to be the tile registration officers, and you give immunity to them from civil procedure?

Avvani tarwatha... First confirm if he is a victim of land titling act or not!

 

[Sreeven]

2 hours ago, maxmillions said:

it was passed in 2022,  the status of his land that was grabbed remains unknown because of this new act, he couldnt challenge and there is considerable amount of time being taken to confirm any detail by the officers who say they cant work because of the new act and the pending survey. So if u want to sell ur land which was intentionally marked as  disputed by these surveyors and grabbed, they wont give u the land documents of the grabbed land blaming the new act which requires comprehensive survey, do u support that?, hope ur land gets into disuptes by surveyors and its lost and u r unable to do anything with it.

We are lucky. Ma polam pakka vuru varaku chesaru ma daggaraki vache time ki edo issues valla hold pettaru. Same VROs inthaka mundu survey chesi rocks vesaru, malli valle vastaru anni change ai potayi..memu almost private and govt iddari chetha multiple times chepinchamu 3 years back

[maxmillions]

16 hours ago, Sreeven said:

We are lucky. Ma polam pakka vuru varaku chesaru ma daggaraki vache time ki edo issues valla hold pettaru. Same VROs inthaka mundu survey chesi rocks vesaru, malli valle vastaru anni change ai potayi..memu almost private and govt iddari chetha multiple times chepinchamu 3 years back

u r really lucky

[maxmillions]

17 hours ago, psycontr said:

Avvani tarwatha... First confirm if he is a victim of land titling act or not!

 

he is, due to this act, the surveyors are not confirming the survey saying it takes 2 years to complete comprehensive survey