CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 20 minutes ago, papampasivadu said: arey arey @CanadianMalodu , prapancham lo evadu ekkada pitthina Chandrababu medhe padi edusthava nuvvu ika? Nenu edavadam emo Kani nuvve edichettau unnav Baboru gurinchi matladithe. Vasthavamu matladina, Comparison chesinappudu alane untadhi. Quote
Pandubabu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 12 hours ago, Thokkalee said: He could have just named it YSR party instead of YSR Congress party.. he named it to attract all the hardcore Congress supporters and prove that his party is the real Congress in AP… 90% of the ppl don’t know the meaning of Congress 😀 both CBn and Ysr are corrupt to the core. CBN, like most politicians have a bunch of benamis and an group of industrialists that gain from the govt and then fund the party… YSR also has a group of reddy industrialists that gain from contracts and pay him back too.. but he surprisingly funneled all the corrupt money to his son, Jagan instead of using benamis.. akkade dorikipoyaadu.. the irony is that Jagan lectures on corruption and talks about honesty and claims he runs a corruption free govt.. 😂 I dont think CBN is corrupt. What makes you think he is corrupt Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 21 minutes ago, Pandubabu said: I dont think CBN is corrupt. What makes you think he is corrupt That means you don't know about Baboru. Baboru is not like your typical gentry family from Krishna Jilla or Godavari Jilla pedda kammoru, who on average have more acreage. He comes from a family that held only 2 acres of land, that too with limited yield. All his wealth is generated from his political career. Try reading "oka charitra konni nijalu" by Daggubati. He minted a lot of commissions as a irrigation minister in then Congress. But his major break through of minting bulk amount came from Magunta family, who offered him 100. Cr then to dethrone NTR, who imposed liquor ban in Andhra. Which is why Baboru organized a coup, although publicized reason was NTR ability to lead was shrouded by Laxmi Parvathi. From then on Baboru, followed neo liberal policies that Zionists follow in the west, at the time of liberalization when he was at helm of Andhra's affairs state spun off Nizam sugar factory, spinning mills, cotton mills, Allywn watches so on to private players preferred by Baboru and in return he minted hundreds of crores as commission. Most of that money was channelized into real estate and hawala in Singapore and US. The real estate in late 90s pushed him into the leagues of one of the richest (Richie rich) politicians in the country. He would perhaps be at par or above the likes of Sharad Pawar and Karunanidhi Family. His Heritage dairy is a shell company to convert black to white and then when he manages to get rid of company to avoid any investigation by selling to future groups. He also owns distilleries in Sri Lanka. As much as I criticize Baboru, I'm amazed by his capabilities and his shrewdness in creating an empire. That's nothing short of Ambanis, except that he is lesser known. What also amazes me is his ability to wear same type of clothes and keep low profile unlike cinema folks who indulge in drinking, gambling and debauchery when 20. Something call them star heroes. It's takes a man a lot of restraint and discipline to stay that way. Quote
Thokkalee Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 10 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said: That means you don't know about Baboru. Baboru is not like your typical gentry family from Krishna Jilla or Godavari Jilla pedda kammoru, who on average have more acreage. He comes from a family that held only 2 acres of land, that too with limited yield. All his wealth is generated from his political career. Try reading "oka charitra konni nijalu" by Daggubati. He minted a lot of commissions as a irrigation minister in then Congress. But his major break through of minting bulk amount came from Magunta family, who offered him 100. Cr then to dethrone NTR, who imposed liquor ban in Andhra. Which is why Baboru organized a coup, although publicized reason was NTR ability to lead was shrouded by Laxmi Parvathi. From then on Baboru, followed neo liberal policies that Zionists follow in the west, at the time of liberalization when he was at helm of Andhra 's affairs state spun off sugar factories, spinning mills, cotton mills, Allywn watches so on Baboru minted hundreds of crores as commission. Most of that money was channelized into real estate and hawala in Singapore and US. The real estate in late 90s pushed him into the leagues of one of the richest (Richie rich) politicians in the country. He would perhaps be at par or above the likes of Sharad Pawar and Karunanidhi Family. His Heritage dairy is a shell company to convert black to white and then when he manages to get rid of company to avoid any investigation by selling to future groups. He also owns distilleries in Sri Lanka. As much as I criticize Baboru, I'm amazed by his capabilities and his shrewdness in creating an empire. That's nothing short of Ambanis, except that he is lesser known. What also amazes me is his ability to wear same type of clothes and keep low profile unlike cinema folks who indulge in drinking, gambling and debauchery. It's takes a man a lot of restraint and discipline to stay that way. Mana Telugu vallani Baboru nunchi kapaddaniki, Devudu parisuddamaina manasu kaligina Ysr ni, Jagan ni bhoomi midaku pampinchaadu.. 1 Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: Mana Telugu vallani Baboru nunchi kapaddaniki, Devudu parisuddamaina manasu kaligina Ysr ni, Jagan ni bhoomi midaku pampinchaadu.. At least that's what public verdict says post 2004. Jagan may not be absolutely best, but he is good for BJP as he can counter Congress party. Eventually Andhra will see the growth of BJP at the expense of TDP while reducing the latter to a mere second fiddle. That's post Baboru phenomenon in Andhra. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 24 minutes ago, papampasivadu said: ne bondha le....andharu congress party sanka nunchi occhinolle...CBN, YSR, Jagan, Puradhareswari, Kiran kumar reddy,Nadendla manohar etc etc....ne erri puvvu sanka logic ni madichi G lo pettuko... Ravadam oka lekka. Adhe sanka ekki undam inko lekka. Inkentha Jun 4 ki evaru madichi ekkada pettukuntaro em pettukuntaro telipothadhi. Quote
Thokkalee Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said: At least that's what public verdict says post 2004. Jagan may not be absolutely best, but he is good for BJP as he can counter Congress party. Eventually Andhra will see the growth of BJP at the expense of TDP while reducing the latter to a mere second fiddle. That's post Baboru phenomenon in Andhra. What is the public verdict post 2004? Congress winning 2 times in a row? They won the 2nd time bcoz of PRP.. don’t make ysr a god bcoz he died a horrible death.. dying doesn’t wash away anyone sins Who knows what will happen.. but bjp has no good leader they can bank on.. it will be decades before bjp can win 10 seats on their own… Sharmila has a better chance than BJp in AP if they go alone.. 😀 Quote
Thokkalee Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 11 minutes ago, papampasivadu said: very true...2009 lo multiple party's were in picture ( TRS, PRP and even Loksatta)...vote splitting ayyi congress ollaki kalisocchindi....maybe because of lesson from 2009, Chandrababu ee sari aa vote split ayye chance lekunda jagrattha paddadu.... @CanadianMalodu talking about bjp gaining ground in AP is pure delusion...ilanti delusionary statements manodu db lo regular basis medha isthaa ne untadu le...ignore cheyy... BJP has some vote base in the urban areas but it is not enough to win any seats.. but without a proper hard working leader, they won’t be able to replace tdp.. and all bjp leaders are ex tdp Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 46 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: What is the public verdict post 2004? Congress winning 2 times in a row? They won the 2nd time bcoz of PRP.. don’t make ysr a god bcoz he died a horrible death.. dying doesn’t wash away anyone sins Who knows what will happen.. but bjp has no good leader they can bank on.. it will be decades before bjp can win 10 seats on their own… Sharmila has a better chance than BJp in AP if they go alone.. 😀 Look at the % votes that Baboru's party secured since 2004. 04 to 09 is a decline,2014 Baboru got very narrow margin, 2019 is outright demolition for him. He has to limp with support of his paleru and now he needed BJP as well. It's likely that Jagan will retain his voting percentage of about 50% again, if any. Not being able to up his vote % alone shows his weakness. Nah, BJP has a different game plan. It's more on the lines of intelligence agencies. They are acutely aware of threat identification and sophisticated enough neutralize threats. Part reason of regional party growth in the south has to do with Congress high handedness and growth of Dravidian ideology propagated by Justice party. They also know about Baboru. They have something to gain, so allowed Baboru to be with them this time. BJP is trying to stab the heart of Dravidian ideology Tamil Nadu. If they are to mark political victories this time, at least few seats then Andhra shall be surrounded by BJP canons on all three sides Telangana , Karnataka and Tamilnadu. It's only to intensify the penetration attempts. BJP thus far, got their moves right interms of retaining land owning castes and middle castes across North.That shall be trickled down into south and Andhra as well. It's growth will come in Andhra at the cost of Telugu Desham. We can talk as more data are available after June 4. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 26 minutes ago, papampasivadu said: Appati varku muskuni undocchu ga aythe...uccha aagatledha?? Indhulo apukokunda vundadaniki Nenu ABN Kitta ni kadhu. 22 minutes ago, papampasivadu said: very true...2009 lo multiple party's were in picture ( TRS, PRP and even Loksatta)...vote splitting ayyi congress ollaki kalisocchindi....maybe because of lesson from 2009, Chandrababu ee sari aa vote split ayye chance lekunda jagrattha paddadu.... @CanadianMalodu talking about bjp gaining ground in AP is pure delusion...ilanti delusionary statements manodu db lo regular basis medha isthaa ne untadu le...ignore cheyy... Potthu lo seats ichindhi mere. Jenda mosedhi mere. Okasari seats vachaka gaining ground kaka emantaru danini? Delusion lo evaru unnaru? At the of the day, BJP ki enno konni seats vasthayi. BJP has everything to gain in both Andhra and Telangana. It's Baboru who will be at losing end. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 Just now, papampasivadu said: so nee intellectual logic prakaram potthu lo seats icchi gelipisthe...okka sari seats occhaka ground gain chestaaru kadha... mari aa gain chesina ground toh 2019 lo BJP individual ga poti chesindhi kadha...emaindhi ground?? TDP toh potthu unnantha varke seatlu...potthu lekapothe malli back to zero...that's the ground reality...delusion lo unnadhi nuvve.. Nah, 2019 was all about Jagan and so is this election. Also, Special status issue was almost settled now. This time Baboru is already 75 years. He himself is not sure of another 5 years if he he loses this time. There are visible cracks in the succession line. All they need is some more efficient leadership. Anyway, let the results come out on June 4. Objective analysis will be more simplified with data at hand. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, papampasivadu said: Yes, CBN is old...but the energy he displayed in this election's campaign is unmatched....Jagan and even Pk were unable to match those energy levels...kabatti sankalu guddukodam aapi elli pani chusko... Jagan did what he had to do already. Baboru is fighting for survival. Adhi Nenu neeku cheppali. Nenu elano eeroju leave lo unna. Nuvvu velli Pani chesuko. Quote
Thokkalee Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 53 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said: Look at the % votes that Baboru's party secured since 2004. 04 to 09 is a decline,2014 Baboru got very narrow margin, 2019 is outright demolition for him. He has to limp with support of his paleru and now he needed BJP as well. It's likely that Jagan will retain his voting percentage of about 50% again, if any. Not being able to up his vote % alone shows his weakness. Nah, BJP has a different game plan. It's more on the lines of intelligence agencies. They are acutely aware of threat identification and sophisticated enough neutralize threats. Part reason of regional party growth in the south has to do with Congress high handedness and growth of Dravidian ideology propagated by Justice party. They also know about Baboru. They have something to gain, so allowed Baboru to be with them this time. BJP is trying to stab the heart of Dravidian ideology Tamil Nadu. If they are to mark political victories this time, at least few seats then Andhra shall be surrounded by BJP canons on all three sides Telangana , Karnataka and Tamilnadu. It's only to intensify the penetration attempts. BJP thus far, got their moves right interms of retaining land owning castes and middle castes across North.That shall be trickled down into south and Andhra as well. It's growth will come in Andhra at the cost of Telugu Desham. We can talk as more data are available after June 4. 2004 nunchi multi party system nadichindi AP lo.. TRS, PRP, JSP, etc came into force with at least 10-15% vote going to these parties… even in 2004, the vote % difference between Congress and tdp is only 1% and they gained that by forming a coalition with TRS.. BJp messed it up big time in Telangana by pulling back Bandi Sanjay out of limelight at a critical time.. they let Congress take away all the anti TRS vote.. Even TN will take a decade or so for them to replace AIADMK as their vote base is mostly anti BJP.. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 41 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: 2004 nunchi multi party system nadichindi AP lo.. TRS, PRP, JSP, etc came into force with at least 10-15% vote going to these parties… even in 2004, the vote % difference between Congress and tdp is only 1% and they gained that by forming a coalition with TRS.. BJp messed it up big time in Telangana by pulling back Bandi Sanjay out of limelight at a critical time.. they let Congress take away all the anti TRS vote.. Even TN will take a decade or so for them to replace AIADMK as their vote base is mostly anti BJP.. 10-15% vote doesn't mean it's all TDP vote. It could have gone either way. If that wasn't the case Jagan wouldn't have secured close 50% vote share in 2019. It didn't change much. This election results will give us more conclusive data. BJP has to do so, because their priority was to stop Congress from forming the government. They didn't have enough numbers on their side to win Telangana. BJP vote got transferred to BRS last election and now BRS should return the favour. If they try to wag their tail Akka won't come out and Abba kodukulu will go in as well. The plan is always the long term. AIDMK will play second fiddle to BJP, which is why Sasikala was shown the door. She wouldn't have come out of jail if she didn't give up her position in AIDMK. That's hostile takeover. Also, AIDMK is not much anti BJP, that's mostly DMK. BJP will tone down in Andhra and Telangana for time being, but the outcome is likely to remain the same. It's just the matter of time. Quote
Thokkalee Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said: 10-15% vote doesn't mean it's all TDP vote. It could have gone either way. If that wasn't the case Jagan wouldn't have secured close 50% vote share in 2019. It didn't change much. This election results will give us more conclusive data. BJP has to do so, because their priority was to stop Congress from forming the government. They didn't have enough numbers on their side to win Telangana. BJP vote got transferred to BRS last election and now BRS should return the favour. If they try to wag their tail Akka won't come out and Abba kodukulu will go in as well. The plan is always the long term. AIDMK will play second fiddle to BJP, which is why Sasikala was shown the door. She wouldn't have come out of jail if she didn't give up her position in AIDMK. That's hostile takeover. Also, AIDMK is not much anti BJP, that's mostly DMK. BJP will tone down in Andhra and Telangana for time being, but the outcome is likely to remain the same. It's just the matter of time. I didn’t say 10-15% vote is all tdp.. the parties don’t get 45-50% vote in multi party system unless there is a strong wave, which Jagan had in 2019.. but we also have a history of showing the door after giving bumper majority.. Quote
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