Manavallu relations with Telugu-origin Tamils and Kannadigas?

[venkappa]

ANyone see the video of DMK MP Veeraswami in that Pasupu meeting where he is praising them for developing Coimbatore. It might have been political stunt to appease Telugu votebank pitting them against Gounders (ADMK votebank).

On the other hand, lots of Seema Cheddies have settled in Karnataka from longtime but till maintain Telugu roots. Gali Janardhan Reddy gifted Yelahanka palace to Zaganna because Razanna gave him mining contracts.

I wonder how is the relationship between them. Do Tamil or Kannadiga ones provide political funding for their Andhra caste brethren like NRIs do?

[Teluguredu]

No ,unless they have migrated in the recent years.

[verrigadu]

On 7/28/2024 at 3:51 AM, venkappa said:

ANyone see the video of DMK MP Veeraswami in that Pasupu meeting where he is praising them for developing Coimbatore. It might have been political stunt to appease Telugu votebank pitting them against Gounders (ADMK votebank).

On the other hand, lots of Seema Cheddies have settled in Karnataka from longtime but till maintain Telugu roots. Gali Janardhan Reddy gifted Yelahanka palace to Zaganna because Razanna gave him mining contracts.

I wonder how is the relationship between them. Do Tamil or Kannadiga ones provide political funding for their Andhra caste brethren like NRIs do?

I can say a bit about Tamils Naickers - predominantly based in and around Coimbatore. Most of the industries such as cotton mills, tools & precision manufacturing companies, Educational Institutes (now turned into Deemed Universities) are owned and controlled by Naidus of `Coimbatore who claim they have roots from Kommas in Coastal AP or Chittoor Naidoos.

nothing more than that.

Some claim to be belonging to the same caste as Sr. Ntr. I told them not to reveal this when you come to AP because like Jews in Middle East, everyone in AP hate Pulkas

[venkappa]

20 hours ago, verrigadu said:

I can say a bot about Tamils Naickers - predominantly based in and around Coimbatore. Most of the industries such as cotton mills, tools & precision manufacturing companies, Educational Institutes (now turned into Deemed Universities) are owned and controlled by Naidus of `Coimbatore who claim they have roots from Kommas in Coastal AP or Chittoor Naidoos.

nothing more than that.

Some claim to be belonging to the same caste as Sr. Ntr. I told them not to reveal this when you come to AP because like Jews in Middle East, everyone is AP hate Pulkas

So did they really develop Coimbatore? How powerful are Naickers in TN?

[Teluguredu]

2 hours ago, venkappa said:

So did they really develop Coimbatore? How powerful are Naickers in TN?

Telugu Naickers are mostly of 3 communities in T.N - balija,kamma and velama.

Out of these kamma and balija are populous whereas are velamas are pretty negligible.

Together they have about 15 MLA's and 2-3 ministers.

Kammas would be about 5-7% in Coimbatore ,most of coimbatore manufacturing is dominated by gounders and kongu vellalars who together form about a quarter of coimbatore population.but kammas also have started some major institutions.

It's kind of like reddy situation in Bangalore where they are dominant for their population but not as dominant as local castes like gowdas.

 

[venkappa]

18 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

Telugu Naickers are mostly of 3 communities in T.N - balija,kamma and velama.

Out of these kamma and balija are populous whereas are velamas are pretty negligible.

Together they have about 15 MLA's and 2-3 ministers.

Kammas would be about 5-7% in Coimbatore ,most of coimbatore manufacturing is dominated by gounders and kongu vellalars who together form about a quarter of coimbatore population.but kammas also have started some major institutions.

It's kind of like reddy situation in Bangalore where they are dominant for their population but not as dominant as local castes like gowdas.

 

Reddys do punch above their weight in Bangalore. They own so much real estate over there.

[Maggavale]

48 minutes ago, venkappa said:

Reddys do punch above their weight in Bangalore. They own so much real estate over there.

Kapollu antha okate blanket kadu ga, kannada , seema batch vere danda lu . Kannada local la unna kapollu pedda ga identify avaru seema batch tho. Vana bhojanalu, sangham speeches varaku ok. Local politician batch educated and polite untar Bangalore kannada reddies, antha gowda's tho align avutharu, .. not to be confused with goud/ Eedigollu. Manollu chana mandi deva gowda eedigodu anukuntar, but bangarappa ani untunde , eedigollu. Aravam lo settle ina kapollu kooda modaliyar tho align avuthar. Marthalli - btm side seema scrap batch settle inru later 2000s la, vella athi kooda oka reason locals anti ganiki . 

 

 

 

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[verrigadu]

1 hour ago, venkappa said:

Reddys do punch above their weight in Bangalore. They own so much real estate over there.

This is a big myth. Reddies own the real estate which is primarily Tier-2 or Tier-3 business. That areas include Marathahalli, Munnekolala and some Outer Ring Road areas which were earlier poor farm lands.

The Tier-1 business is still with local Kannadigas which include some REDDY surnames but they are not AP Telugu Reddies.

The are like actress Sameera Reddy who only has 'Reddy' surname but nothing to do with Telugu Reds.

And silver line is that those Telugu Reddies in Bangalore fighting to put them into BC category. So no quest

 

[jpismahatma]

We have lot of arava batch in Hyderabad too.

[venkappa]

7 hours ago, Maggavale said:

Kapollu antha okate blanket kadu ga, kannada , seema batch vere danda lu . Kannada local la unna kapollu pedda ga identify avaru seema batch tho. Vana bhojanalu, sangham speeches varaku ok. Local politician batch educated and polite untar Bangalore kannada reddies, antha gowda's tho align avutharu, .. not to be confused with goud/ Eedigollu. Manollu chana mandi deva gowda eedigodu anukuntar, but bangarappa ani untunde , eedigollu. Aravam lo settle ina kapollu kooda modaliyar tho align avuthar. Marthalli - btm side seema scrap batch settle inru later 2000s la, vella athi kooda oka reason locals anti ganiki . 

 

 

 

What about Kammas in TN, especially Coimbatore?

[Teluguredu]

8 hours ago, Maggavale said:

Kapollu antha okate blanket kadu ga, kannada , seema batch vere danda lu . Kannada local la unna kapollu pedda ga identify avaru seema batch tho. Vana bhojanalu, sangham speeches varaku ok. Local politician batch educated and polite untar Bangalore kannada reddies, antha gowda's tho align avutharu, .. not to be confused with goud/ Eedigollu. Manollu chana mandi deva gowda eedigodu anukuntar, but bangarappa ani untunde , eedigollu. Aravam lo settle ina kapollu kooda modaliyar tho align avuthar. Marthalli - btm side seema scrap batch settle inru later 2000s la, vella athi kooda oka reason locals anti ganiki . 

 

 

 

 edigas ante toddy tappers .they are not land-owning caste

Gowdas ante vokkaligas i.e landowning caste in karnataka, andhra lo kaapu category loki vastaaru kaani akkada gowda ante strictly title matrame vaalandhari caste vokkaligas.

Banglore lo reddies mostly telugu vaale reddy Ane title kannada natives lo vaadaru,vaalu migrate aina periods different anthe.

[Teluguredu]

7 hours ago, verrigadu said:

This is a big myth. Reddies own the real estate which is primarily Tier-2 or Tier-3 business. That areas include Marathahalli, Munnekolala and some Outer Ring Road areas which were earlier poor farm lands.

The Tier-1 business is still with local Kannadigas which include some REDDY surnames but they are not AP Telugu Reddies.

The are like actress Sameera Reddy who only has 'Reddy' surname but nothing to do with Telugu Reds.

And silver line is that those Telugu Reddies in Bangalore fighting to put them into BC category. So no quest

 

Sameera reddy is from godavari ra baabu.

Telugu reddies ,kannada reddies ani emi vundaru ,just vaalu migrate aina period vere.

Vaala subcaste kooda telugu subcastele untaai.

Some reddies from andhra were there from Vijayanagara times kontha mandhi British time lo kontha mandhi independence tarvaatha kontha mandhi IT taruvaatha migrate ayiyaaru anthe.

Karnataka lo mostly anni non-brahmin castelu BC kindane vastai including gowdas malli daani kosam fight enti.

[Maggavale]

2 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

 edigas ante toddy tappers .they are not land-owning caste

Gowdas ante vokkaligas i.e landowning caste in karnataka, andhra lo kaapu category loki vastaaru kaani akkada gowda ante strictly title matrame vaalandhari caste vokkaligas.

Banglore lo reddies mostly telugu vaale reddy Ane title kannada natives lo vaadaru,vaalu migrate aina periods different anthe.

I am aware of all these and what those words means like gounder n all , I no where said kapollu kannada natives, obviously migrate ayyaru. Vallu evaritho identify avutharo cheppina. Politics or  business lo stake leni vade telugu identity antoo tirugguthar retired batch, active politics or business la unnodu kannada identity ke craving untadi .  Reddy title anedi kooda chana mandi ki telvadu , seema lo reddy title lo chana castes unnai le . 

[Teluguredu]

20 minutes ago, Maggavale said:

I am aware of all these and what those words means like gounder n all , I no where said kapollu kannada natives, obviously migrate ayyaru. Vallu evaritho identify avutharo cheppina. Politics or  business lo stake leni vade telugu identity antoo tirugguthar retired batch, active politics or business la unnodu kannada identity ke craving untadi .  Reddy title anedi kooda chana mandi ki telvadu , seema lo reddy title lo chana castes unnai le . 

Reddy title is 95%+  used by people of reddy subcastes only even now,I am not talking about reddy in surnames like rankireddy,vasireddy etc.. i am talking about reddy as a title ,reddy title used by other castes is extremely less.

Initially reddy was only used by very few current reddy subcastes during kakatiya period, during British times some other subcastes also started using it ,but they have all become subcastes of reddy community now,so it doesn't matter.