Variety_Pullayya Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2024/04/21/electric-vehicles-not-guilty-of-excess-short-term-fire-risk-charges/ “The overall arching takeaway (from the data) is that the rate of fires happening is less for EVs than petrol or diesel cars, and quite substantially,” said James Edmondson, Research Director at Cambridge, England-based independent researcher IDTechEx in an interview. Edmondson said various surveys showed EVs represented far less of the reported fires than might be expected given their market share. Estimates by the Phosphorous, Inorganic & Nitrogen Flame Retardants Association reported 55 fires per billion miles travelled in ICE vehicles and five fires per billion for EVs. A report from AutoinsuranceEX said EVs exhibited 61 times fewer fires per 100,000 sales than ICE vehicles. The scare about EV fires was whipped up by media coverage showing various expensive Teslas going up in flames after accidents, or for no particular reason. The implication was that this was somehow typical of EVs. The data now shows this isn’t the case, yet. The trouble is it would take a lot to make an ICE car in flames a headline story. “ICE Car Fire Sets White House Alight” might do it. Quote
paaparao Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 On 10/6/2024 at 12:48 PM, r2d2 said: @Sucker sell your Tesla .. Hurricane Helene Fires: Salt water and electric vehicles don't mix A house in Florida caught fire in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene after a Tesla burst into flames in the garage purportedly due to coming into contact with saltwater, Reuters reported. Nine people were in the Siesta Key home Sunday night when the Tesla vehicle, a Model X Plaid caught fire, KOLOTV reported. Siesta Key, a barrier island, is located about 68 miles south of Tampa. The homeowners told Reuters they were asleep when two of their grandchildren heard strange popping noises and woke up the elders to determine when the sound was coming from. The family ran downstairs and were shocked to see their vehicle on fire, forcing them to flee into the street. The blaze engulfed the car and garage in under a minute, Reuters reported. Gas cars exploding in more numbers than EVs annually. check your stats. https://cleantechnica.com/2024/06/01/actually-evs-dont-catch-on-fire-as-frequently-as-gas-powered-cars-do/#:~:text=(It's not called an 'internal,times more fires than EVs. https://www.kbb.com/car-news/report-evs-less-likely-to-catch-fire-than-gas-powered-cars/ https://www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/ Quote
Variety_Pullayya Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 1 minute ago, paaparao said: Gas cars exploding in more numbers than EVs annually. check your stats. https://cleantechnica.com/2024/06/01/actually-evs-dont-catch-on-fire-as-frequently-as-gas-powered-cars-do/#:~:text=(It's not called an 'internal,times more fires than EVs. https://www.kbb.com/car-news/report-evs-less-likely-to-catch-fire-than-gas-powered-cars/ https://www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/ this is one of the prime examples of media brainwash and misinformation. ppl see the news and make opinions without knowing any facts. showing a burining tesla is so much fun for them. Quote
paaparao Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 8 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said: this is one of the prime examples of media brainwash and misinformation. ppl see the news and make opinions without knowing any facts. showing a burining tesla is so much fun for them. main stream media is dead. community notes in twitter killing media day by day if they put fake articles. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 20 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said: who said the intensity is lower. all i am saying is that the probability of gasoline cars catching fire in an accident are higher than ev. dont jumble words The intensity is part is even more important, because it's not easy to put off an EV on fire, as Lithium batteries will reignite again and the amount of water you would need will be hundreds of gallons. You also didn't account for the the delta in the numbers of ICE vs EVs. Even then skewing can happen based on the age and condition of the ICE vehicles. Quote
Variety_Pullayya Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 15 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said: The intensity is part is even more important, because it's not easy to put off an EV on fire, as Lithium batteries will reignite again and the amount of water you would need will be hundreds of gallons. You also didn't account for the the delta in the numbers of ICE vs EVs. Even then skewing can happen based on the age and condition of the ICE vehicles. there are enough eV vehicles on raod since last 3-4 years to provide a sufficient sample. i provided the reports and articles. if you still choose to beleive your version...go for it. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said: there are enough eV vehicles on raod since last 3-4 years to provide a sufficient sample. i provided the reports and articles. if you still choose to beleive your version...go for it. Then you need to baseline your sample size with 3-4 year old ICE engines,and btw. Hybrids have battery traction packs that are Lithium ion as well so should probably be excluded. None of your sources had any of that, you can simply believe it if you want but those sources of yours don't stand a simple scrutiny. Quote
paaparao Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 22 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said: there are enough eV vehicles on raod since last 3-4 years to provide a sufficient sample. i provided the reports and articles. if you still choose to beleive your version...go for it. right now every quarter, there are 0.5 million EVs sold globally. this is more than enough to do myth breaking with this leftissts. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, paaparao said: right now every quarter, there are 0.5 million EVs sold globally. this is more than enough to do myth breaking with this leftissts. Em myth break sestha unnaru? Evaru leftists? Asalu vallu endhuku vacharu? Quote
shaktimaan Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 2 hours ago, Variety_Pullayya said: topic meda interest undatam = langa lepuku ravatama nee vocabulary lo. i am providing data and statistics if needed here. i hate disinformation as much as you like your langa. pilvani perantaniki povadam alavaata langa dinchuko chudalekapothunnam Quote
EggpuffReddy Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 1 hour ago, paaparao said: right now every quarter, there are 0.5 million EVs sold globally. this is more than enough to do myth breaking with this leftissts. 1 hour ago, Variety_Pullayya said: there are enough eV vehicles on raod since last 3-4 years to provide a sufficient sample. i provided the reports and articles. if you still choose to beleive your version...go for it. kottha EV cars ni paatha gas cars tho compare chestunnara, how many of those fire accidents happened for new gas cars Quote
Variety_Pullayya Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 8 minutes ago, EggpuffReddy said: kottha EV cars ni paatha gas cars tho compare chestunnara, how many of those fire accidents happened for new gas cars it about gas leak during an accident and vehicle catching fire. old or new - gas tanks do get damaged in accidents. taking the analysis the wrong direction imo. but maybe there is a slight skew but compared to the difference....it still does not change the result Quote
Variety_Pullayya Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said: Em myth break sestha unnaru? Evaru leftists? Asalu vallu endhuku vacharu? there is clear attack by left leaning media on elon musk and tesla due to his conservative opinions. Quote
Variety_Pullayya Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 discussion is getting sidetracked - ppl thinking the results / analysis are skewed ...do provide some report that says Ev are more susceptible with fires. i can take a look. note - dont show me articles where they say EV battery fires are hotter and hard to extinguish. i agree to that . just that gasoline cars are more susspetable to fires during accidents. do understand that even a faulty electrical circuit and static charge can start a gasoline fire. comapre that with a battery Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted October 8, 2024 Report Posted October 8, 2024 20 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said: discussion is getting sidetracked - ppl thinking the results / analysis are skewed ...do provide some report that says Ev are more susceptible with fires. i can take a look. note - dont show me articles where they say EV battery fires are hotter and hard to extinguish. i agree to that . just that gasoline cars are more susspetable to fires during accidents. do understand that even a faulty electrical circuit and static charge can start a gasoline fire. comapre that with a battery You made the claim, not me. The onus is on you and yet ended up with skewed sources. Short circuits does cause EV fire too. Who told you they don't. As simple as overcharging can cause EV fire too. Analysis is skewed because that's apparent. Neither the volume of sample nor the variables are taken into consideration. Quote
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