India has great history, culture and legacy, but what is lacking to progress?

[CanadianMalodu]

1 minute ago, socrates said:

 

anyway india colonization was just 200 years episode in a very very big indian history. I want to give one example, by the time of gowtham budda these two countries germany and japan dont even exist as countries (mostly as tribes only not even emperors)

showing colonialism is a reason for our bad mindset is just an excuse

but did you realize why those two countries were not colonized? and so called ancient civilized india got colonized ?

that concludes my first post in this thread.

do nothing means i am saying figuratively, not literally

i do give credit to ISRO, IIT and where ever there is a due

but i won’t agree on what you mentioned such as environmental sensitivity, practicing hygiene, political stability..etc. we are very far to claim these

i dont know why you taking usa as  example here with highly populated india? 

if high population is your concern then lets compare with china inequality ratio

apples with apples

oranges with oranges 

1:10 ratio bro

all your utopia stories are just 1% feel good stories you see in newspapers once in a while not every day, while i am talking about 10% dystopia stories which has real sorrows occupy every page in every day

perspective is mutual bro

other side of the coin is not visible to you also because you are just seeing (or imagining) utopia 

i am totally accepting of you saying i am not open minded because i have that open mind to accept it

The duration of Colonization and extent of it are two different things. Colonization of Indian under British and Rothschilds was most repressive regime that's ever imposed. 

There is a systemic dismantling of civilization blocks. Settler colony approach that you see in new world countries like US, Canada , Australia is very different from extractive Colonization approach. This is a one way street. Rob the riches, dismantle the industry and reduce the people to poverty.  It worked pretty well for them 

India hasn't come out colonialism yet

 

If only Prithvi raj Chauhan beheaded Ghori during his first conquest, may be things would have been slightly different. Islamic conquest created the erosion of India as a society, and British just accelerated it. If 20 generations were subjected to extreme poverty, it's hard to make up for it in less than the same time.The entire top down system was built on a colonial apparatus and India is a name sake Republic still and not true Republic. You need strip or down and built it in a  bottoms up manner.

[pichukgudu]

2 hours ago, socrates said:

 

anyway india colonization was just 200 years episode in a very very big indian history. I want to give one example, by the time of gowtham budda these two countries germany and japan dont even exist as countries (mostly as tribes only not even emperors)

showing colonialism is a reason for our bad mindset is just an excuse

but did you realize why those two countries were not colonized? and so called ancient civilized india got colonized ?

that concludes my first post in this thread.

do nothing means i am saying figuratively, not literally

i do give credit to ISRO, IIT and where ever there is a due

but i won’t agree on what you mentioned such as environmental sensitivity, practicing hygiene, political stability..etc. we are very far to claim these

i dont know why you taking usa as  example here with highly populated india? 

if high population is your concern then lets compare with china inequality ratio

apples with apples

oranges with oranges 

1:10 ratio bro

all your utopia stories are just 1% feel good stories you see in newspapers once in a while not every day, while i am talking about 10% dystopia stories which has real sorrows occupy every page in every day

perspective is mutual bro

other side of the coin is not visible to you also because you are just seeing (or imagining) utopia 

i am totally accepting of you saying i am not open minded because i have that open mind to accept it

See bro .. again I’d say .. u might see / believe more of wat u want to ..

u can pretty conveniently pass off 200 yrs of colonisation which was nothing less than slavery .. 300+ yrs of Mughals ruling that destroyed our sources of knowledge & made us literally anything but humans! Like in GoT, the character says abt night king .. that he just want to erase human’s explorations / memory .. than we’re no longer d humans we use to be ..

reason I chose US & not China is coz of difference in philosophies .. as US & Ind practice democracy .. but China is communist & the State doesn’t care abt its citizens .. all it cares abt the ambitions of state & wud even crush its own citizens to death even if they express dissent .. Tiananmen Square incident is an example!

Ratios r personal & pretty casual way of rating something which u as an individual believe .. especially when u can’t assess d impact of past & wat it takes to stand on our own feet again considering d pace at which world is changing nowadays ..

[CanadianMalodu]

2 hours ago, pichukgudu said:

See bro .. again I’d say .. u might see / believe more of wat u want to ..

u can pretty conveniently pass off 200 yrs of colonisation which was nothing less than slavery .. 300+ yrs of Mughals ruling that destroyed our sources of knowledge & made us literally anything but humans! Like in GoT, the character says abt night king .. that he just want to erase human’s explorations / memory .. than we’re no longer d humans we use to be ..

reason I chose US & not China is coz of difference in philosophies .. as US & Ind practice democracy .. but China is communist & the State doesn’t care abt its citizens .. all it cares abt the ambitions of state & wud even crush its own citizens to death even if they express dissent .. Tiananmen Square incident is an example!

Ratios r personal & pretty casual way of rating something which u as an individual believe .. especially when u can’t assess d impact of past & wat it takes to stand on our own feet again considering d pace at which world is changing nowadays ..

The problem is this poster is heavily influenced by Marxist version of history. Those myopic lens skew his vision. No point in oodhing sankam in front of chevitodu type.

[socrates]

22 hours ago, pichukgudu said:

u can pretty conveniently pass off 200 yrs of colonisation which was nothing less than slavery .. 300+ yrs of Mughals ruling that destroyed our sources of knowledge & made us literally anything but humans! Like in GoT, the character says abt night king .. that he just want to erase human’s explorations / memory .. than we’re no longer d humans we use to be ..

INDIAN history and civilization saw thousands year old bronze age and iron age till today. In this entire period colonization is just 200 years or may be 250+ years. British looted the wealth but not the soul of India thats why india still have its own culture unlike united states or south Africa. I am really started worrying about indians who is showing british looting as excuse for their misolgy though they looted but how long you cry? cant you learn from japan, germany or singapore?

you are blaming mughals? i wish you should have blamed delhi sultanate instead 

hope you know the difference between delhi sultanate and mughals

delhi sultanate is the actual destroyers of india, they are part of the islam caliphate but mughals are migrants like aryans, thay stayed in India and built india unlike britishers

please read the history without biases bro

22 hours ago, pichukgudu said:

reason I chose US & not China is coz of difference in philosophies .. as US & Ind practice democracy .. but China is communist & the State doesn’t care abt its citizens .. all it cares abt the ambitions of state & wud even crush its own citizens to death even if they express dissent .. Tiananmen Square incident is an example!

before answering on this topic i have serious question 

people use the word “community” pretty often but they get triggered when it is “communism” why? whats the big difference between community and communism? or communal?

you said china is not caring their citizens but is india caring Indians? we saw how india govt cared indians in manipur incident?

now you are switching context pretty conveniently for your argument, some times you take examples of big population and if i reference china you take sudden turn to democracy and shows the usa as example, is usa is big populated country? please fix your context first then we can debate later

22 hours ago, pichukgudu said:

Ratios r personal & pretty casual way of rating something which u as an individual believe .. especially when u can’t assess d impact of past & wat it takes to stand on our own feet again considering d pace at which world is changing nowadays ..

honestly i can’t understand single line of what you saying, so no comment from my side

[socrates]

@pichukgudu so you decided  me as marxist because i asked triggering questions? your reactions are telling that

i thought its a worth a debate but realized its a total waste of time debating with you

seems you are just nothing but tagger

misology is concluded here and seems you are misologist  

[CanadianMalodu]

44 minutes ago, socrates said:

INDIAN history and civilization saw thousands year old bronze age and iron age till today. In this entire period colonization is just 200 years or may be 250+ years. British looted the wealth but not the soul of India thats why india still have its own culture unlike united states or south Africa. I am really started worrying about indians who is showing british looting as excuse for their misolgy though they looted but how long you cry? cant you learn from japan, germany or singapore?

you are blaming mughals? i wish you should have blamed delhi sultanate instead 

hope you know the difference between delhi sultanate and mughals

delhi sultanate is the actual destroyers of india, they are part of the islam caliphate but mughals are migrants like aryans, thay stayed in India and built india unlike britishers

please read the history without biases bro

before answering on this topic i have serious question 

people use the word “community” pretty often but they get triggered when it is “communism” why? whats the big difference between community and communism? or communal?

you said china is not caring their citizens but is india caring Indians? we saw how india govt cared indians in manipur incident?

now you are switching context pretty conveniently for your argument, some times you take examples of big population and if i reference china you take sudden turn to democracy and shows the usa as example, is usa is big populated country? please fix your context first then we can debate later

honestly i can’t understand single line of what you saying, so no comment from my side

Soul of India aa?  200 years dismantle chesaru ra babu block by block civilization ni anta unte soul intact Ela untadhi? Gattiga mee purvikulu mee mutatha mundhu rendu taralu varu ekkada undevaru em chesevaru ante nuvve answer tadumukonunda cheppalevu. 

So Delhi sultanate is bad ? Mughals were good aa? Wtf nonsense idhi. Political Islam's unidirectional tenet is to convert or kill both overtly and covertly. Inter tribe difference doesn't matter much.

Communism as an ideology or how it's known resulted in tens of millions of death by forced famines, bondage labour, people were tortured and killed due to dissent. It's a dangerous Zionist precedent that resulted in social and financial implosion of all the places it tried to take over. Why shouldn't you be triggered about that?

[Teluguredu]

India is not a natural country ,only way india develops is through splitting it and needs another wealth redistribution program.the land redistribution is an utter failure with too many loopholes.

 

[socrates]

19 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

India is not a natural country ,only way india develops is through splitting it and needs another wealth redistribution program.the land redistribution is an utter failure with too many loopholes.

 

i am not a pro separatist but if GOI enforces the oneness like one election one religion one language one culture one one one..etc then it will leads to multiple separatist activities

reason why hinduism has multiple gods is to represent the diversity in india, oneness is not even exists in Indian culture or hindu dharma but bjp trying to enforce it for political benefits, no wonder if they change the dharma also and enforce one god in future 

[Teluguredu]

1 hour ago, socrates said:

i am not a pro separatist but if GOI enforces the oneness like one election one religion one language one culture one one one..etc then it will leads to multiple separatist activities

reason why hinduism has multiple gods is to represent the diversity in india, oneness is not even exists in Indian culture or hindu dharma but bjp trying to enforce it for political benefits, no wonder if they change the dharma also and enforce one god in future 

It's not about gods or dharma or other bullshit ,it's about indo-aryan domination which is clearly visible over everyone else,we need to get rid of these beggars once and for all.congress, bjp doesn't matter.

[krishnaaa]

1 hour ago, socrates said:

@pichukgudu so you decided  me as marxist because i asked triggering questions? your reactions are telling that

i thought its a worth a debate but realized its a total waste of time debating with you

seems you are just nothing but tagger

misology is concluded here and seems you are misologist  

If you look at my conversation with him, I had come to the exact same conclusion 🤣

[krishnaaa]

1 hour ago, Teluguredu said:

India is not a natural country ,only way india develops is through splitting it and needs another wealth redistribution program.the land redistribution is an utter failure with too many loopholes.

 

ivanni timepass maatalu.

What are you going to do about it is the main question.

[Teluguredu]

1 minute ago, krishnaaa said:

ivanni timepass maatalu.

What are you going to do about it is the main question.

What you does as an individual doesn't matter ,you need to mobilize as many people as you can ,I am doing my part in educating people about this.

[krishnaaa]

1 minute ago, Teluguredu said:

What you does as an individual doesn't matter ,you need to mobilize as many people as you can ,I am doing my part in educating people about this.

Ilanti educators millions lo unnaru including me. Naya paisa upayogam undadu,

What an individual actually does with country's benefit in mind matters the most. 

My outlook you can read from previous page.

[Teluguredu]

3 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:

Ilanti educators millions lo unnaru including me. Naya paisa upayogam undadu,

What an individual actually does with country's benefit in mind matters the most. 

My outlook you can read from previous page.

 

Even in this db many people don't know about indo-aryan domination and support our country and national party ,first change should come from there.people should openly kick out traitors and indo-aryan supporters from andhra first.

 

[krishnaaa]

2 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

 

Even in this db many people don't know about indo-aryan domination and support our country and national party ,first change should come from there.people should openly kick out traitors and indo-aryan supporters from andhra first.

 

All that stuff doesn't matter. 

Country is made from people and its culture. Nobody can dominate people with strong culture.

And it can be formed only by taking action. Take action while putting ego aside. Don't try to boil the ocean.

Just do your bit...people will follow.