DonnyStrumpet Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said: Potheponi anna….kids ni F1 mida pampichi, OPT tarvata h1b file chesi, GC apply chepisdam. EB-2 la file chepisdam Apudu elago country of birth USA, fast movement vuntademo…country cap vundakapothey mari manchidi… Infants born to International students will clean up that 10k quota per year. It will be a waitlist again Quote
Android_Halwa Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, nenu_meeku_telusa said: Country of birth kaadu. Which country citizen and they will be Indian citizens Of course they will be Indian citizens…if either of the parents hold Indian passport, the kids can automatically claim Indian citizenship.. Quote
kevinUsa Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 Pregnant folks, what are you planning to do in light of the new Executive Order? Hubby is on OPT and I'm on an F2 visa. Baby arrives in April. If there is no injunction on this EO by that time, I'm assuming the baby will need an F2 visa or H4 if my husband gets the H1B. I am terrified of flying to India with a small infant. I'm quite dejected by this. We are law abiding residents, pay thousands in taxes and the administration is so callous towards us. Its so much extra hassle and bureaucratic work for new parents. I'm only looking for actionable advise, so please don't comment here with irrelevant gyaan. Quote
kevinUsa Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 If H4ead is removed thru an EO in next few days what will be the defense in favor of H4ead Quote
Android_Halwa Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, ErraBook_monagadu said: You raised a very interesting point, country of birth is Usa. Further legislation will be needed to decide how this works with green card applications. I’m no expert in American affairs but if birthright citizenship is removed, least effected will be Indians. If people sit together and make rules, they will also have to consider I-140 too, its a valid document approved based on previous legistlations. If they are unable to deal with country cap, they have to introduce a quasi system which deals with people waiting for permanent residencies.. IMO, Its not easy to repeal birthright citizenship in this term but it will happen some time soon, may be in the next 10-15 years. Even then, kids born to legally present parents will be granted birthright… Quote
pakeer_saab Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 58 minutes ago, ErraBook_monagadu said: Primary purpose of EO is to end chain migration through temporary visas, precisely birth tourism and temp workers Quote
JohnyGalt Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 38 minutes ago, psycontr said: babu garu has to do something like talking to president for exempting indians or alteast telugu varu Jaggaaaaad shall do some thing too… like he has for Visas steel plant.. Quote
kevinUsa Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said: I’m no expert in American affairs but if birthright citizenship is removed, least effected will be Indians. If people sit together and make rules, they will also have to consider I-140 too, its a valid document approved based on previous legistlations. If they are unable to deal with country cap, they have to introduce a quasi system which deals with people waiting for permanent residencies.. IMO, Its not easy to repeal birthright citizenship in this term but it will happen some time soon, may be in the next 10-15 years. Even then, kids born to legally present parents will be granted birthright… May be UK system Quote
Sam480 Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 The executive order to end birthright citizenship does not go into effect immediately upon being signed. There are multiple hurdles before such a policy can be implemented. Here’s what happens: 1. Legal Challenges • The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution explicitly states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” Courts have historically interpreted this to mean that nearly all children born on U.S. soil are citizens, regardless of their parents’ immigration status. • An executive order cannot override the Constitution. Legal experts and organizations will likely challenge the order in court. Until the courts decide, the order may be temporarily or permanently blocked. 2. Judicial Review • This issue will likely go through multiple levels of the judiciary, including federal courts and potentially the U.S. Supreme Court. • Courts will analyze whether the order violates the Constitution. The current interpretation of the 14th Amendment favors birthright citizenship, so reversing it would be a significant legal shift. 3. Congressional Involvement • To make a permanent change to birthright citizenship, Congress would need to amend the Constitution. This requires: • A two-thirds majority in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. • Ratification by three-fourths (38) of U.S. states. • This process is extremely difficult and unlikely to succeed. 4. Implementation Challenges • If the courts uphold the executive order (which is unlikely), implementing the new rules would require extensive administrative changes. This includes training hospital staff, updating immigration systems, and defining who qualifies as a citizen at birth, creating logistical and legal complexities. Summary While the executive order may create immediate political and legal debates, it cannot be easily implemented because: • It conflicts with the 14th Amendment. • Courts will likely block it. • A constitutional amendment is required for a permanent change, which is extremely difficult. 1 Quote
ErraBook_monagadu Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 H4 ead itself needs due process that takes 1 year to be removed. But miller can devise infinite ways to restrict,suffocate,bleed any of the temporary visa programs like h4, H4 ead, h1, opt, l1,l2 etc adding new requirements/checks/ background verification etc to kill the programs for all practical purposes without lengthy process. Quote
Android_Halwa Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 14 minutes ago, ErraBook_monagadu said: You raised a very interesting point, country of birth is Usa. Further legislation will be needed to decide how this works with green card applications. Unless the system is overhauled completely, they cannot change things with patches to existing laws and we know what it takes to overhaul the American immigration system… Country cap is the crucial legislation but from law makers point of view, it is not a significant one. Similarly, concept of country of birth will be insignificant if they overhaul else they will create more problems and to deal with the new problems, they will just switch back to pre 2024 laws. Quote
sarfaroshi2 Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 3 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Infants born to International students will clean up that 10k quota per year. It will be a waitlist again International mottam kaadu, only Indian and Chinese… ippudu mana GC dates ki compition next born iyye other country kids…for example oka h1b Paki gaadiki kid pudithe their parents will get GC fast and their whole family will get GC before us… oka turka family ki 5-6 kids unte inka manaki Koya re Koyaaa koyaaaa !! 1 Quote
pakeer_saab Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said: I’m no expert in American affairs but if birthright citizenship is removed, least effected will be Indians. If people sit together and make rules, they will also have to consider I-140 too, its a valid document approved based on previous legistlations. If they are unable to deal with country cap, they have to introduce a quasi system which deals with people waiting for permanent residencies.. IMO, Its not easy to repeal birthright citizenship in this term but it will happen some time soon, may be in the next 10-15 years. Even then, kids born to legally present parents will be granted birthright… right point court will easily accept approval of 140 as an admission of immigration intent, if Indians build a strong case, it can easily be contested but the courts are conservative and might accept the interpretation. Quote
Android_Halwa Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 minute ago, kevinUsa said: May be UK system Annai…UK/Canada system introduce cheshe America pani kudisipoinatte… Duniya motham 10gina system vayya UK di…alariki country laws kuda emi cheyalekapotunayi.. Quote
futureofandhra Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, Sam480 said: we always forget the fact that h1b visa is "temporary work visa " uncle chala years nundi unnam kabatti we forget the word temporary, once in a while we are reminded that we are just here for temporary work but unfortunately h1b visa is similar to visitor visa with work permit How come it's only temporary for Indians but not for others Quote
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