Why is there such a strong fascination with the kids US citizenship, why do people consider it so es

[kevinUsa]

I know many families went back to India with USA citizen kids , what is the point?
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Te Ahluwalia
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Animesh Andy Chak college education access being key.
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Te Ahluwalia
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for one right now-, kids will be stateless and parents working here will be separated from their kids till there is clarity on paperwork
IF kids live here and parents working here then kids if they apply to college will hv to do same visa to visa living
IF parents hv to return to desh, kids will hv to return and face different schooling and readjustment to a country they are pretty much alien to with the added tension of being in the niddle of an extremely competitive and very different way of studying (vs here where there is a mix of sports, any subject, more aligned to newer streams of work etc)
all in all --- statelessness and
this current reversal of birthright is also a way to push out legal immigrants/ visa workers
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Ranjini Malhotra
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I don’t know about a fascination per se, but the facts are that there are several benefits that citizenship affords, such as educational, legal and economic. Citizens are eligible for certain scholarships and federal grant monies, citizens cannot be deported and enjoy travel benefits afforded by US passports,they are eligible for government jobs and able to receive the benefits of federal programs such as Medicare and Social Security.
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Nipun Khanna
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Benefits and opportunities that parents want to provide their kids for. There is nothing wrong in it.
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Eman P. Arsalan
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When people went to Middle East they knew that they can live there a lifetime but they won’t become citizens. Nor will their children. This is an inherent factor which they are very well aware of before agreeing the contract so there’s never a disappointment. But with US it’s entirely different. Even growing up when we’ve seen people go to ME for work we’ve seen them return back after few years unlike going to the US. That’s where the disappointment and frustration. This is my understanding.
People give birth in the Middle East as well and the kids don’t go stateless. The kids get citizenship based on their parent’s citizenship. So now Indian embassies will have a sudden workload if all these rules fall in place. Of course every other country embassy as well. I just don’t understand this concept of kids going stateless or kids not belonging to any nation. What’s been happening all these years with children born outside of the US to Indian parents? They didn’t get dumped in some island. But the disappointment is a very fair point since this was a major factor for many to even come here.
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Vivek Venkatesan
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Ease of living in the US obviously. Do you want your kid to have visa issues? This will be home for them anyway.
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Nischal Sharma
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Ek bhadka hua bhakat
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Choudhury Acerbic
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If this thing does go thru , will it stop hoards of mom / dad in their 60’s coming to US for nanny work.
Then the 🦽 shortage at the airports will go away. The ticket prices may turn favorable.
And no more anchor babies. I see some positives .
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Du Ke
I think it’s more about the fact that Trump and his clan are blatantly disregarding the constitution whether it is birthright citizenship or the emolument clause (see the TRUMP)
The grift is real !
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Vishwatosh Tripathi
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Their kids, their desires!
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Prabhat Gundepalli
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PRIVILEGE
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Rajkiran Somshetty
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Because parents don't want their kids to suffer the same F1, H1, i140, 485, gc, citizenship (150 years) route.
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Richi Varma
Why you considered coming here in USA? It is the answer
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Sourav Pal
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Same reason why you came here , for a better future.
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Madhurima Chakraborty
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Because Indian passport is weak.
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Karthi Sundararajan
Ask your friends in UK and they already have this policy
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Anand Bose
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Anil Kumar
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Imagine your kids born here and grew up here and still will be treated as foriegn applicants in college etc. Its different than us as they grew up here all thier life. Lot of kids (who were bought here when they are small) are going through that process already.
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Sayantan Sarkar
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For a better future, better education, better everything. India is filthy, corrupt, with an impractical and regressive education system. That's why.
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Arvind Barve
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Your kids are safer in the belly of the beast.
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Ramkumar TR
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Before that you must add your status and ypur kids' status.
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Jassi S. Sachdev
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So that some people can say... main to India wapas chala jaata.. bacchon ke liye ruk gaya hoon. 🤣🤣
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Sarika Ravinder Garg
It’s also about you were getting additional benefit without any effort why that benefit has been taken away and also is it start of bigger benefit losses … hence the chaos
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Shailendra Singh
Monkey see monkey do😁
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Pia Bharadwaj
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Coz US passport ranks in top 10 (7th or 8th) and Indian passport ranks at 83 or 84.
Coz US GDP is almost double indias
US has the best colleges
Petty crime, corruption and population is much lower than India
And not everyone from India hates living here - people actually have made their lives here and enjoy what the country has to offer!
And for kids who are raised here - this is their country!
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Arghya Mukherjee
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To anyone saying in Europe you don't get birthright citizenship, in europe you don't have country cap on permanent legal status.
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Rashmi Gopalakrishnan
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There are other issues for children’s higher education. They will be treated as international students for fees to college and then post college will run into opt window etc. they will not benefit inspite of being born here and this country is the only thing the kids know
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Ritu N
moh and maya.
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Raj ZXr
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SAME REASON THEY COME TO U.S 😂
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Nigel Christopher D'Souza
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It would make life 50% easier for your child in the future.
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Amit Gupta
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Because some of us came for it only.
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Sheetal Kirtikar Kulkarni
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So that thy don’t waste their valuable lifetime on Indian Expats in USA Junior
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Raja - The Soul
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Asia is the FUTURE
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Nitin Futane
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Panic and overreaction from Indians as expected. Children will get their GC and citizenship anyway along with the parents one day. And when they grow up, they won't be in a domestic rat race along with anchor babies born to rich Chinese and Indians, and illegal Central Americans who will grow up here or arrive here in their 20s. But we don't think that far.
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Shailendra Singh
Life is better in India 🇮🇳
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Meghana Naik
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Is this a real question? Isn’t it obvious
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Chandra Mani
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Coz some people are slaves of geography and they believe that slavery should be passed on to the kids as well
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Bhagya Cma
Said by an anonymous person, who either has children who are indian citizens or has green card or already a usa citizen
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Raj Kunwar Singh Chhabra
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For godi media, @ndbh@kts India is great until it's not..
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Sridharan Pradeep
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All parents are one who came from INDIA as immigrant.
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Anil Kumar Jambuvulu
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One of the dumbest post I have ever seen .... go look at EO , lot of uncertainties stems from that EO.
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Abhishek Baliyan
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Because your kid(s) are US citizens, that’s why you’re asking this question. If your wife is 7 or 8 months pregnant and your newborn will born at 12:01 AM on February 20, 2025, then you would never ask this question here.
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Abhishek Patel
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Consider you crossing wide river on boat would you like to have life jacket for your family?
USC is like life jacket for family who want to cross the river
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Eshaan Khan
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What a ridiculous post by OP, posting in an ex-pats group asking what the fascination for US citizenship who himself /herself is here in the US on a visa or PR or citizen.
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Meenakshi Swami
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Ask anyone on earth..will the kids be safe and have better opportunity in US or India..these posts are really insensitive for parents who put best efforts for their kids future..what’s wrong with you guys…
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Nandhini Sivasami
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You will know when your kids grow up !
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Shambhu Nath
United States passport lets you travel pretty much anywhere and your kids don’t have to compete with top one percent to get to a good college. Traffic, pollution, corruption are other issues.
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Sushil Mishra
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Muft ka halwa sabko achha lagta h
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Viral Shah
there are folks in the other groups who are wishing that this order is retroactive and they don't have to renounce USA citizenship due to taxation and it's taken away from them.
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Lava Kumar Bangalore
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People like you are the ones who jerk off to and Pratiba Patil & Mamta Bannerjee
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Venutha V Chanagiri
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Indian Passport is more valuable now 😂
Hope people have realized OR yet to realize?
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Deepesh Shadija
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Because with indian citizenship the kids will go thru the same struggle as we did 😂
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Nagesh Vytla
India is good for the kids of corrupt politicians and business men. Kids of rest of the population had to depend on foreign countries and foreign companies for survival.
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Swapna Nair
So basically, now kids who are born in us to h1b parents will have to get H4, but then if the parents are in line for GC, then they could get into the ROW line instead of india born line.using cross-chargeability, as now they have a dependent who is born in USA (as the GC line does not depend on your citizenship but your country of birth). So all these people can become current and get GC through RoW.
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Nihar Dhruva
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Very simple reasons:
1. Stability in life: the kid has not known any other country but US as his/her home. Has accepted US culture and life as his own and has not lived any other life. If this kid is not given work permit or student visa when he/she turns 18 or 21, what would happen to him/her?
2. For all practical reasons, whether it is official or not, kids do face discrimination in their school by other kids (innocent discrimination but still affecting them) and what if this point of not being an American citizen also becomes a reason of discrimination at school or other classes / camps for them? This can become a reason of hatred in these kids’ mind for their parents.
3. A kid born in US with no citizenship of US can’t apply for many federal scholarships and jobs even though they’re the most deserving for those. Do you think this is fair to them? Indirectly, it is the discrimination based on ones citizenship status.
4. They have limited access to public benefits or financial aids despite of they being born and lived in this country their whole life
5. More expensive college education compared to citizens and permanent residents. Why should they pay more for the same education that others are getting at 1/4th price?
6. Travel restrictions for them - they can’t travel outside US without valid visa stamps n all.
7. When these kids convert to F1/F2 visa (student visa), they’re not allowed to work, which means that it’ll be more burden on the parents. Unless they study and get undergraduate and graduate degrees and find good jobs, they’re can’t file for H1s to live in US. And even after all these, if they didn’t get H1 visa through lottery, ultimately they have to get separated from their parents and go back to their home country. Do you think, this situation is going to reduce illegal immigration issue? I don’t think so. Ultimately, to stay with their family, many of such kids might resort to turning into illegal so that they can live with their parents and can live in the only country that they have known in their whole life.
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Kirstin Stich
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You know why
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Yogesh Kale
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Because they (kids) are living here… going to school here…. Singing US national anthem on regular basis….
Why is difficult to grasp?
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Ravikumar Sudalaimuthu
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Because we don't want our kids to be second class residents like we had spent a bulk of our time here. Read Nihar Dhruva reply here for the reasons.
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Krish TN
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Why are you even here in this group if you don't know this answer?
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Siri Chowdary
I would love to see how many people say this if the EO was retroactive.
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Syed Hussain
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anyways within 25 years America won’t be the same America and the land of opportunity mark my word’s. US passport will be as good as any other passport in comparison to any other country.
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Mahesh Patel
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So they can get locked in to the US tax system and file taxes no matter where they live in the world. 😂
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Vidh Ya
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For parents GC sponsorship when the kids turn 21
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Deepayan Chakraborti
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Go and talk to people whose GC is pending and have teenage kids at risk of aging out or those whose kids already aged out of their parent's GC application. Many have spent almost all their life in US and have to restart their immigration journey from scratch: F1 --> H1B --> GC. USC gives stability. Don't comment that we came to US far from our homeland and made it work. That was a choice we made, not forced on US as will be the case for these kids.
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Mini Mathew
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When the kids have grown up here mostly, it gets difficult to adapt again to india.
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Sandeepa Nain
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Smile Yes Sticker, GIF may contain transparent, yeah and agreed
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Raj Gopal
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Just imagine about the Healthcare and education and nothing else 😉
Think about it and you will understand alot 😂😂😂
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Kasturi Chitre
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To see kids not struggling for US immigration like their parents did/ still do.
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Malolan Cadambi
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Cause I don’t want my kids to compete with those who submit blank answer paper and rejjervasun and come via quota and Kota to colleges in India…
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Archana Pandey
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A few points that I have observed to motivate the desire of US citizenship -
1. Indian system up until recent times was heavily skewed to one side based on caste based reservation(there are 2 sides of this coin and both motivate US citizenship)
2. US is perceived to have more avenues for a variety of career paths, although when you look closely it may not be as diverse
3. Quality of life, nobody tries to touch a young woman in a crowded bus or stare them to death or “chaar log” syndrome. Although, the last point is blurring, as you build social network in US a different variety of chaar log emerge
4. Social security, up until recently, there were nil to minimal benefits in India, while the US citizen can expect some govt. assistance in different varietieyof hardships
5. Perception that the talent and merit is valued in the US, you don’t need jugad. While if you look closely talent is a basic hygiene to make it in US, the “who knows who” is translated as a fancy terms like “sponsorship, networking, legacy” etc.
6. Reset - a desire to get a fresh start for your child away from all the social shackles and dynamics of India
7. Pride in Indian citizenship is a recent phenomenon, US passport was perceived as one of the strongest. although when the US didn’t put in efforts to bring back the 6 US hostages from Hamas’ captivity, that perception should have dwindled