Vaccine side effects in India

[Iriswest]

17 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Unnavtillo Covaxin kaastha better but Not totally safe. Reason being, Covaxin lo spike protein concentration COVISHIELD kante thakkuva. I met a young cardiologist who told me that one patient he has given stent took Covaxin. This guy is from Khammam. I don't want to disclose more details. Covaxin is also unlike mRNA vaccines. It has some inactivated COVID virus and therefore spike protein., that stays in blood. mRNA vaccines on the hand instructs your body to keep making spike protein, that's dangerous to your body. It's an experimental gene therapy. 

m-RNA instructs body to make it only for few days/months. That's why we needed booster doses. The protein might stay in the bloodstream longer and can react with other organs/cells and cause other issues.

[Iriswest]

2 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

How did you come up with that ? What data do you have to back up your claim?

research papers

[CanadianMalodu]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

research papers

Cite them here.

[Iriswest]

3 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Cite them here.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666396124000074
 

I am not going by this one alone but many studies have concluded that sick cells are killed first in autophagy. Proliferation phase is critical for cancers or even viruses. That's why 5 days water fasting once is a life is a recommended method to avoid cancer even by doctors
 

[Mancode]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666396124000074
 

I am not going by this one alone but many studies have concluded that sick cells are killed first in autophagy. Proliferation phase is critical for cancers or even viruses. That's why 5 days water fasting once is a life is a recommended method to avoid cancer even by doctors
 

Akka nuv kuda lab technician or pharmacist va?

[Iriswest]

Just now, Mancode said:

Akka nuv kuda lab technician or pharmacist va?

Pharmacist with Masters in Medicinal chemistry

[CanadianMalodu]

19 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

m-RNA instructs body to make it only for few days/months. That's why we needed booster doses. The protein might stay in the bloodstream longer and can react with other organs/cells and cause other issues.

Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line

Markus Aldén et al. Curr Issues Mol Biol. 2022.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35723296/

There is a comment publication saying invivo possibility is very low, but it didn't rule it out. There are cases of inflamed liver and hepatitis as well in vaccine side effects. Which is why we don't know until we see long-term safety data. I'm skeptical of buying the idea that spike protein clears itself. 

 

[Mancode]

11 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

Pharmacist with Masters in Medicinal chemistry

Super 👍 

What do u think about fasting 

Will fasting a whole day  along with before night comes up as intermittent fasting or the sleep time will not be included??? .for weight loss 

I mean for example if started fasting now and until tommorow night ,will it count as intermittent fasting or the sleep time is minused?

@Iriswest @CanadianMalodu

@gothamprince what do u thbk?

[Iriswest]

8 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line

Markus Aldén et al. Curr Issues Mol Biol. 2022.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35723296/

There is a comment publication saying invivo possibility is very low, but it didn't rule it out. There are cases of inflamed liver and hepatitis as well in vaccine side effects. Which is why we don't know until we see long-term safety data.

 

Good one. This research also suggests that autophagy degrades retrotransposon RNA from both long and short interspersed elements, preventing new retrotransposon insertions into the genome. I suggest nobody give in to midnight cravings and maintain strict health routines. Kids are bound to learn from you.

[Iriswest]

11 minutes ago, Mancode said:

Super 👍 

What do u think about fasting 

Will fasting a whole day  along with before night comes up as intermittent fasting or the sleep time will not be included??? .for weight loss 

I mean for example if started fasting now and until tommorow night ,will it count as intermittent fasting or the sleep time is minused?

@Iriswest

a minimum of 8-10 hour break between eating is fasting. that's why we call breakfast as breakfast. But autophagy only starts after fasting for 16 hours. Do it whenever you have a relaxed day. You have to use up blood glucose levels and stored glycogen. Then the real breakdown of fats begin to happen. Human body has several clean up processes which will happen only when we respect our body and take care of it.

[Mancode]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

a minimum of 8-10 hour break between eating is fasting. that's why we call breakfast as breakfast. But autophagy only starts after fasting for 16 hours. Do it whenever you have a relaxed day. You have to use up blood glucose levels and stored glycogen. Then the real breakdown of fats begin to happen. Human body has several clean up processes which will happen only when we respect our body and take care of it.

Thanks ,but previous night will count as intermittent a? Or sleep time kabatti ,adhi consideration loki radha?

[Iriswest]

2 minutes ago, Mancode said:

Thanks ,but previous night will count as intermittent a? Or sleep time kabatti ,adhi consideration loki radha?

it will count even if you are sleeping. Your basal metabolic rate is just slowed down while sleeping but not stopped.

[Mancode]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

it will count even if you are sleeping. Your basal metabolic rate is just slowed down while sleeping but not stopped.

Ok ,what about water weight ,akka 

Body will lose it when intermittent fasting or what type of fat it burns down first? 

[CanadianMalodu]

17 minutes ago, Iriswest said:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666396124000074
 

I am not going by this one alone but many studies have concluded that sick cells are killed first in autophagy. Proliferation phase is critical for cancers or even viruses. That's why 5 days water fasting once is a life is a recommended method to avoid cancer even by doctors
 

There is an inherent problem with this. This paper relied primarily on the following publication at least I'm those infected with COVID.

Association of periodic fasting with lower severity of COVID-19 outcomes in the SARS-CoV-2 prevaccine era: an observational cohort from the INSPIRE registry

This study doesn't take into account of vaccination and it's aftermath. It's the same with the studies tabulated or listed in supplementary table 1. None of them specifically studied the intervention in vaccinated individuals. They only involved those that were infected with COVID. 

I wouldn't buy the conclusion, without such data. 

[Iriswest]

1 minute ago, Mancode said:

Ok ,what about water weight ,akka 

Body will lose it when intermittent fasting or what type of fat it burns down first? 

water weight is because of glycogen. I think it binds water in 1:3 ratio. that's why you weight loss is very high in the very beginning of fasting because you used up your glycogen reserves.