Vaccine side effects in India

[CanadianMalodu]

49 minutes ago, krishnaaa said:

What about Pfizer or moderna?

Myocarditis, Pericarditis, glomular diseases,  Deep Vein Thrombosis, tachycardia are mostly identified. Read this.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/iid3.807

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, Iriswest said:

Before vaccination it was 13%. First round lo new delhi ran out of burial places in burial grounds. All old people with any kind of underlying condition like diabetes were gone. Survivors were very less.

That's a conjecture. You're ignoring acquired immunity form prior infection. There is no delineating study. 

The other problem with COVID deaths is that any underlying condition that resulted in death with a COVID infection was marked as a COVID death. That's a confounding variable, that amplifies number of deaths. 

[Iriswest]

5 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

That's a conjecture. You're ignoring acquired immunity form prior infection. There is no delineating study. 

The other problem with COVID deaths is that any underlying condition that resulted in death with a COVID infection was marked as a COVID death. That's a confounding variable, that amplifies number of deaths. 

That was a real issue. Underlying problems did not cause death. Virus aggravated the conditions because body needed all its armor to fight the infection. Those deaths have been rightly attributed to covid. Anyhow, most of the deaths prime reason was pneumonia and that alone took lot of lives not just underlying conditions.

[jpismahatma]

On 2/20/2025 at 9:56 PM, CanadianMalodu said:

Autism is due to heavy metal adjuvants like aluminum used in vaccines. Those adjuvants are so inflammatory and irritate immune system, that kids develop allergies and even asthma as well. 

COVID vaccines are entirely different breed. You're right about heartattacks. It's because spike protein in mRNA and Adeno vector recombinant vaccines causing blockages.

The inflammatory spike protein also causes Pericarditis and Myocarditis. Covishield ( aka Astrazeneca) is pulled off from US, Canada for causing blockages in circulation.India pushed it even aggressively unfortunately.

They are also triggering turbo cancers as spike protein switches off the p53 gene which suppresses tumors in the body. 

 

 

Anna I took Covid boosters . Last 2022 Jan.  It’s affects are lifelong ?

[CanadianMalodu]

1 minute ago, Iriswest said:

That was a real issue. Underlying problems did not cause death. Virus aggravated the conditions because body needed all its armor to fight the infection. Those deaths have been rightly attributed to covid. Anyhow, most of the deaths prime reason was pneumonia and that alone took lot of lives not just underlying conditions.

Sure, Pneumonia was the reason for deaths due to COVID. But the numbers reported were still way higher than they should have been. If a person passed away due to heart attack or any other reason and has COVID, the death was counted as a COVID death. All hospital deaths (regardless of pneumonia) during COVID who were tested positive for COVID were counted as COVID deaths. This greatly amplified the numbers. 

Without digressing, COVID pneumonia was due to cytokine storm, and Azithromycin and Chloroquine were shown to be effective in mitigating it. However, they were not widely known early in the first wave in 2020 but greatly played a role in averting the cytokine storm. I recall UP govt. distributing them en masse during what was supposed to be "Super spreader event" and didn't have deaths due to COVID.  This was during Kumbh Mela in 2021. Vaccine distribution was in very nascent stage then. 

 

[Iriswest]

28 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Sure, Pneumonia was the reason for deaths due to COVID. But the numbers reported were still way higher than they should have been. If a person passed away due to heart attack or any other reason and has COVID, the death was counted as a COVID death. All hospital deaths (regardless of pneumonia) during COVID who were tested positive for COVID were counted as COVID deaths. This greatly amplified the numbers. 

Without digressing, COVID pneumonia was due to cytokine storm, and Azithromycin and Chloroquine were shown to be effective in mitigating it. However, they were not widely known early in the first wave in 2020 but greatly played a role in averting the cytokine storm. I recall UP govt. distributing them en masse during what was supposed to be "Super spreader event" and didn't have deaths due to COVID.  This was during Kumbh Mela in 2021. Vaccine distribution was in very nascent stage then. 

 

Let's say a hospital sees 10 deaths on average. Now with covid, the death rate surged to 100 per day. 90 are still attributed to covid which are untimely deaths, the other regular deaths might have been miscounted as covid but the numbers reported were definitely not higher but lower.

A vast majority also died because there were no hospital beds available and they died just outside hospitals/camps or even homes. These were never tested for covid and they were not counted as covid deaths. 

[Iriswest]

32 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Sure, Pneumonia was the reason for deaths due to COVID. But the numbers reported were still way higher than they should have been. If a person passed away due to heart attack or any other reason and has COVID, the death was counted as a COVID death. All hospital deaths (regardless of pneumonia) during COVID who were tested positive for COVID were counted as COVID deaths. This greatly amplified the numbers. 

Without digressing, COVID pneumonia was due to cytokine storm, and Azithromycin and Chloroquine were shown to be effective in mitigating it. However, they were not widely known early in the first wave in 2020 but greatly played a role in averting the cytokine storm. I recall UP govt. distributing them en masse during what was supposed to be "Super spreader event" and didn't have deaths due to COVID.  This was during Kumbh Mela in 2021. Vaccine distribution was in very nascent stage then. 

 

Azithromycin and Chloroquine were not effective. Period. It did not avert any infection/deaths. You still needed strong antivirals and a hel$ lot of steroids to keep the inflammation in control. Without the covid vaccines we as a human race would have been doomed. Going by what I have observed closely and the cover ups that the governments have tried to do, the m-rna vaccine surely did not go through it's course of clinical trials. But given the mortal impact of a highly mutant virus, we had to get these vaccines and be ready for any 1 in a million consequences. But those 1 in a million consequences should also be studied thoroughly because the entire next gen has taken it and it might get worse with time.

 

[yslokesh]

On 2/21/2025 at 2:58 AM, Mancode said:

how do u know, all of this , u work in medical field?

ChatGPT user at expert level..pedda sollu gaadu eedu ... 

[yslokesh]

4 hours ago, CaptainMaverick said:

@CanadianMalodu what do you say about HPV vaccine? Is Gardasil 9 ok? It is being recommended for kids as young as 11 to adults. I think it is in mandatory vaccine schedule in some states? Since it's been around for at least a decade, is it safe as there are many people who took it & companies have enough data?

I tolded no? You can better model your AL skills on ChatGPT.

It will train itself to feed you info that you want to know.

[CanadianMalodu]

7 hours ago, CaptainMaverick said:

@CanadianMalodu what do you say about HPV vaccine? Is Gardasil 9 ok? It is being recommended for kids as young as 11 to adults. I think it is in mandatory vaccine schedule in some states? Since it's been around for at least a decade, is it safe as there are many people who took it & companies have enough data?

I'm 34 have been seeing many escorts over the years, across continents and never had any HPV and never have taken any vax for it.  Sexual route is the most common path for HPV transmission. Now what's the need to give HPV Vax to kids Indiscriminately? They don't get sexual, right?

I think it's better leave them till their immune systems are completely formed and let them know the risks  and let them decide once they are young adults say at 18. Wrt. safety data, HPV appears to be  safer, but my skepticism lingers due to use of Aluminium as adjuvant and it being a DNA vax. 

HPV is not mortal as well and remission is easy. 

 

[CanadianMalodu]

7 hours ago, Iriswest said:

Azithromycin and Chloroquine were not effective. Period. It did not avert any infection/deaths. You still needed strong antivirals and a hel$ lot of steroids to keep the inflammation in control. Without the covid vaccines we as a human race would have been doomed. Going by what I have observed closely and the cover ups that the governments have tried to do, the m-rna vaccine surely did not go through it's course of clinical trials. But given the mortal impact of a highly mutant virus, we had to get these vaccines and be ready for any 1 in a million consequences. But those 1 in a million consequences should also be studied thoroughly because the entire next gen has taken it and it might get worse with time.

 

There is no period here. Philippe Gautret et al. Int J Antimicrob Agents. 2020 Jul, which was retracted later clearly indicated the efficacy of hydroquinone and Azithromycin as well.

Immunomodulatory properties of Azithromycin was also studied in connection with various Virus groups

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32969125/

The later studies contradicted and concluded Azithromycin didn't really help. One was RECOVERY trial and the other one was COALITION Trial and there was another one from NIH. My skepticism about them comes from the funders of these studies. Bill Gates foundation, Leamann foundation, Wellcome Trust and Oxford University. All of them are collaborated with and are funded by Gates through his foundation. 

When I was down with COVID, dosing 1g of Azithromycin for 5 days did really help me. I was down with body aches, fever and never felt so weak before. A week later I was doing deadlifts in gym.  Not a very scientific one, but that's my empirical observation. Which is also why I wouldn't rule out the earlier trials.

I wouldn't buy this. Humans survived plagues, Small pox outbreaks throughout the history. mRNA therapies vs Small molecule treatments, I would prefer latter any day. 

The biggest problem with EUA of mRNA vax was natural immunity developed from prior infection was never taken into account. I would also disagree with the mortality rate due to confounding variables in death tally. 

I prefer having Vax as a choice instead of mandating it. I have lived through mandates, but didn't take Vax and have no intention to get it again. 

[Iriswest]

4 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

There is no period here. Philippe Gautret et al. Int J Antimicrob Agents. 2020 Jul, which was retracted later clearly indicated the efficacy of hydroquinone and Azithromycin as well.

Immunomodulatory properties of Azithromycin was also studied in connection with various Virus groups

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32969125/

The later studies contradicted and concluded Azithromycin didn't really help. One was RECOVERY trial and the other one was COALITION Trial and there was another one from NIH. My skepticism about them comes from the funders of these studies. Bill Gates foundation, Leamann foundation, Wellcome Trust and Oxford University. All of them are collaborated with and are funded by Gates through his foundation. 

When I was down with COVID, dosing 1g of Azithromycin for 5 days did really help me. I was down with body aches, fever and never felt so weak before. A week later I was doing deadlifts in gym.  Not a very scientific one, but that's my empirical observation. Which is also why I wouldn't rule out the earlier trials.

I wouldn't buy this. Humans survived plagues, Small pox outbreaks throughout the history. mRNA therapies vs Small molecule treatments, I would prefer latter any day. 

The biggest problem with EUA of mRNA vax was natural immunity developed from prior infection was never taken into account. I would also disagree with the mortality rate due to confounding variables in death tally. 

I prefer having Vax as a choice instead of mandating it. I have lived through mandates, but didn't take Vax and have no intention to get it again. 

You have a severe survivor bias. Many many children died who have a very dynamic immunity who were also given the same anti malarial drugs. 
 

let’s drop this debate here. We clearly have a very different take on m-rna vaccines. With the amount of deaths I have seen around me, and knowing what coverups Indian government did to report low numbers, I wouldn’t have had a second thought to taking vaccine.

[Iriswest]

11 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

There is no period here. Philippe Gautret et al. Int J Antimicrob Agents. 2020 Jul, which was retracted later clearly indicated the efficacy of hydroquinone and Azithromycin as well.

Immunomodulatory properties of Azithromycin was also studied in connection with various Virus groups

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32969125/

The later studies contradicted and concluded Azithromycin didn't really help. One was RECOVERY trial and the other one was COALITION Trial and there was another one from NIH. My skepticism about them comes from the funders of these studies. Bill Gates foundation, Leamann foundation, Wellcome Trust and Oxford University. All of them are collaborated with and are funded by Gates through his foundation. 

When I was down with COVID, dosing 1g of Azithromycin for 5 days did really help me. I was down with body aches, fever and never felt so weak before. A week later I was doing deadlifts in gym.  Not a very scientific one, but that's my empirical observation. Which is also why I wouldn't rule out the earlier trials.

I wouldn't buy this. Humans survived plagues, Small pox outbreaks throughout the history. mRNA therapies vs Small molecule treatments, I would prefer latter any day. 

The biggest problem with EUA of mRNA vax was natural immunity developed from prior infection was never taken into account. I would also disagree with the mortality rate due to confounding variables in death tally. 

I prefer having Vax as a choice instead of mandating it. I have lived through mandates, but didn't take Vax and have no intention to get it again. 

Do you know the plague wiped off 30% of human population? Covid was nothing short of it. I am thankful that we didn’t have to see history repeat again.

[Bvmr9102]

Every year thisukune flu shots safe a na?

[CanadianMalodu]

On 2/22/2025 at 8:28 AM, Iriswest said:

1. You have a severe survivor bias. 2.Many many children died who have a very dynamic immunity who were also given the same anti malarial drugs. 
 

let’s drop this debate here. We clearly have a very different take on m-rna vaccines. With the amount of deaths I have seen around me, and knowing what coverups Indian government did to report low numbers, 3. I wouldn’t have had a second thought to taking vaccine.

1. That's optics. 

2. Where did this come from?

3. Sure, I never said you shouldn't. I only said I need a choice. If I feel that it's not in my best interests I simply don't take it. I wouldn't suggest anyone else to get one.