Spartan Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 In a stunning turn of events, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has made a surprising move toward a possible ceasefire with Russia. His latest statement hints at a major shift in strategy—offering key compromises while responding to tensions with the U.S. administration. With Trump’s aid freeze shaking Ukraine’s war efforts, is this the beginning of a historic peace deal or a forced retreat? Quote
appusri Posted March 4 Report Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Anta Assamey said: Forced retreat ante better than a deal... Retreat ante Russia ki applicable kadha? They are the ones came forward and occupied. Quote
Popular Post Spartan Posted March 4 Author Popular Post Report Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said: Forced retreat ante better than a deal... basically EU and Zelen did not want to give credit to Trump for brokering the ceasefire....and win Nobel Peace like #gobama 4 Quote
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nokia123 Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 38 minutes ago, appusri said: Retreat ante Russia ki applicable kadha? They are the ones came forward and occupied. Inka aa occupied land gurinchi Z and his country marchipovatame …ippudu aapithe dhanithone pothundhi lekunte inko 6 months war tharuvatha russia 1/2 or full occupy sesesthadhi Quote
appusri Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 39 minutes ago, nokia123 said: Inka aa occupied land gurinchi Z and his country marchipovatame …ippudu aapithe dhanithone pothundhi lekunte inko 6 months war tharuvatha russia 1/2 or full occupy sesesthadhi Why do you think so? People thought that Ukraine is going to loose in 3 days. They have been fighting for 3 years. Russia gained more land 2022, but they couldn't keep, Ukraine has claimed it back. They may not be able to keep their gains (except Crimea), if the war continious for another 6 to 9 months. This is the reason Zelensky has been asking for weapons to continue the war for some more time and it was the plan of Biden's govt too. People are overestimating Russia's strength. With the current rate of occupaton it will take 83 years for Russia to occupy full Ukraine. You are talking as if Russia is going to occupy tomorrow. 2 Quote
akkum_bakkum Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 31 minutes ago, nokia123 said: Inka aa occupied land gurinchi Z and his country marchipovatame …ippudu aapithe dhanithone pothundhi lekunte inko 6 months war tharuvatha russia 1/2 or full occupy sesesthadhi Biddu thatha backing tho innallu sardaru..funding aapithe packup cheppeidame. Within weeks lo Kiev meeda bombings ayyay..ippudinka fasak 1 Quote
Android_Halwa Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 3 years back when the 40 mile military convoy almost reached Kiev, they had this opportunity to ceasefire and sit on the table to talk….apudu enter ayindabba agrarajyam… Malli three years tarvata ie oppurtunity to sit down and talk,.. Ukraine is the loser… 1 Quote
Spartan Posted March 5 Author Report Posted March 5 44 minutes ago, appusri said: Why do you think so? People thought that Ukraine is going to loose in 3 days. They have been fighting for 3 years. Russia gained more land 2022, but they couldn't keep, Ukraine has claimed it back. They may not be able to keep their gains (except Crimea), if the war continious for another 6 to 9 months. This is the reason Zelensky has been asking for weapons to continue the war for some more time and it was the plan of Biden's govt too. People are overestimating Russia's strength. With the current rate of occupaton it will take 83 years for Russia to occupy full Ukraine. You are talking as if Russia is going to occupy tomorrow. Keiv was under seige within fiorst 3 weeks of war... US ammo supply valla Zelen survived... ippudu Trump ammo and funding rendu apestadu ani telisi...ceasefire antunnadu.. Quote
appusri Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 8 minutes ago, Spartan said: Keiv was under seige within fiorst 3 weeks of war... US ammo supply valla Zelen survived... ippudu Trump ammo and funding rendu apestadu ani telisi...ceasefire antunnadu.. Yeah, without the US support it wouldn't be possible. What Ukraine needs is ammo and Europe should provide. Quote
Android_Halwa Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 50 minutes ago, appusri said: Why do you think so? People thought that Ukraine is going to loose in 3 days. They have been fighting for 3 years. Russia gained more land 2022, but they couldn't keep, Ukraine has claimed it back. They may not be able to keep their gains (except Crimea), if the war continious for another 6 to 9 months. This is the reason Zelensky has been asking for weapons to continue the war for some more time and it was the plan of Biden's govt too. People are overestimating Russia's strength. With the current rate of occupaton it will take 83 years for Russia to occupy full Ukraine. You are talking as if Russia is going to occupy tomorrow. Lets put it this way. As per Trump they have given $200-300 billion in aid and in military assistance. Literally for the last 3 years, Ukraine foyght with american weapons. World war-2 tarvata longest continuous conflict idi…Do you know what it costs to keep the war going on ? Russia is not the same military super power as they used to be, but later half they improvised…few thousand tho drone tho American supplied air defence shields addukunayi…its a wow moment..but imagine $10k drone kosam $1 million worth equipment use chesthe war balance sheet emaitadi ? America matram enni rojulu supply chestadi ? Four front la US needed air defence and supplies…motham antha Ukraine ki isthe adukkutuntadi US…Houthis dhebba ki red sea la US fleet stepped back, Japan la increased strength, Gulf la mobilize chesinaru forces after Hamas/israel conflict, as usual NaTo la spend cheyali… On to of all these, US needs to prepare well for the any conflict…North Korea odu missile test chesthe, Japan and South Korea la vunna american forces ready ga vundali…Cinese aggression on Taiwan and American frces should be in standby…Gulf la stand by…ivanni kakunda ukraine ki military supplies.. Its not Russia…Its US which has been bleeding money and arsenal…! Later half la Iran, North Korea and China tho Russian dealings have turned the war upside down completely… Quote
Spartan Posted March 5 Author Report Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, appusri said: Yeah, without the US support it wouldn't be possible. What Ukraine needs is ammo and Europe should provide. 3Bn icharu...velli shopping chesko ani.. EU kaani vatito weapons konadaniki US ki ravali.... Trump oppukodu ammadaniki... akkade problem vachindi...anduke ceasefire antunnadu Quote
Android_Halwa Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, appusri said: Yeah, without the US support it wouldn't be possible. What Ukraine needs is ammo and Europe should provide. Russia odu just Ukraine border la fight chesthe chalu…last 3 years lo Russia idokkate chesindi.. But look at US…Kore/Japan, Taiwan, Gulf waters, NATO, Quad etc anukunta entha spend chesindo…unlimited supply emi kadu kada weaponry.. Chinese aggression on Taiwan is a strategy..China flies sories near taiwan sea and American forces are on high alert…oorikine emi jaragaledu, russia-china understandings for sure…same with Kim and Iran….Middle East crisis motham Iran nundi ae modalu ayindi and its an expensive affair..Rogue forces with a rocket launcers ni modern military might kodtakdutundi…imagime thescale and cost involved in such things… Quote
appusri Posted March 5 Report Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said: Lets put it this way. As per Trump they have given $200-300 billion in aid and in military assistance. Literally for the last 3 years, Ukraine foyght with american weapons. World war-2 tarvata longest continuous conflict idi…Do you know what it costs to keep the war going on ? Russia is not the same military super power as they used to be, but later half they improvised…few thousand tho drone tho American supplied air defence shields addukunayi…its a wow moment..but imagine $10k drone kosam $1 million worth equipment use chesthe war balance sheet emaitadi ? America matram enni rojulu supply chestadi ? Four front la US needed air defence and supplies…motham antha Ukraine ki isthe adukkutuntadi US…Houthis dhebba ki red sea la US fleet stepped back, Japan la increased strength, Gulf la mobilize chesinaru forces after Hamas/israel conflict, as usual NaTo la spend cheyali… On to of all these, US needs to prepare well for the any conflict…North Korea odu missile test chesthe, Japan and South Korea la vunna american forces ready ga vundali…Cinese aggression on Taiwan and American frces should be in standby…Gulf la stand by…ivanni kakunda ukraine ki military supplies.. Its not Russia…Its US which has been bleeding money and arsenal…! Later half la Iran, North Korea and China tho Russian dealings have turned the war upside down completely… $200-300 billion in aid anedhi big lie, it was 119B. And most of the weaponry given is old gen and decommissioned for American usage. Yeah, I understand from the US point of view. It should be the EU's responsbility to step up. And US has supported so far, if it can support for another 6 months till the EU factories are ready, it would big boost to Ukraine. All that support US has given in these three years would turn wasteful. Trump personal ego tho decisions theesukuntunnadu, its not good for Ukraine or for the world for that matter. As I written in the other post, Russian intrest rates are in mid 20s. Record high. Inflation is very bad. The don't have people joining army. I heard in some video..due to domestic political pressure Putin stopped recruting the army personnel in traditional manner some years back. Contracting companies recruit. Now they are asked to recruit around 35K people per month. They are unable to recruit that number. They have shortage of labour causing the manufactring growth decline, weaker ruble. They can't keep fighting this war. They couldn't keep some of the land gains from 2022. They can't retain the reamaining forever. If this war continous till end of this year or early next year, Russia will be in worse position. Probably, that was the reason the Biden Govt wanted to continue the war as the Russians were not agreeing for the peace deal. But Trump wanted to end the war asap to gain political points without considering the Ukraine's interests. Quote
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