Zelensky Offers Partial Ceasefire With Russia To Restart Peace Talks, Calls Spat With Trump 'Regrett

[Spartan]

Europe is in a fix.

As European leaders scramble after the blow-up between US President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky last week, they are faced with the grim realisation they cannot currently deter - let alone fight - Russia without the American security umbrella that has been in place since the end of WWII.
Any peace plan by countries like the UK and France to help Ukraine seems untenable without adequate security guarantees being provided by the US. But Trump has now even suspended military aid to Ukraine, which accounted for almost half such assistance Kyiv was getting, in a move that obviously has been welcomed by Russia. Enmeshed in the debilitating and costly conflict, Russia of course wants to seize this godsend opportunity, the first such one it has got since invading Ukraine in February 2022. Amid the ongoing geopolitical upheaval, China, too, is waiting to see if it can exploit the situation.

European countries may be cranking up their defence budgets but they simply do not currently have the military capabilities on their own to stop Russia in its tracks. Over-dependence on the US for decades has left Europe weak in terms of military teeth on several fronts like air defence and long-range ballistic missiles as well as requisite force-enablers like space-based ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance), command and control, satellite communications and the like.

"India needs to learn a lesson from all this. It will have to deter, and if required fight, its adversaries, especially China, largely on its own. No one will come rushing to our aid in a crunch situation. And if someone does, it will extract great concessions or costs," a top Indian military officer said.

As the unquestioned Nato leader with an annual defence expenditure of almost $1 trillion, the US has over 80,000 combat-ready soldiers deployed in Europe along with heavy weaponry like tanks, armoured vehicles, air defence missile systems, fighter jets, warships and the like as well as around 100 tactical nuclear bombs. While European countries collectively do have over 1.5 million troops, they would require at least 2,00,000 more for self-defence if the US withdraws its soldiers, as per one estimate.
Then there is military hardware and software. Take, for instance, the manufacture of advanced multi-role fighters. Roughly around 600 Eurofighter Typhoons (by a consortium of the UK, Germany, Italy and Spain), 300 Swedish JAS 39 Gripen and 260 French Rafale jets, which are all 4.5-plus generation jets, have been built over the last 25 years or so. The US, in turn, has produced around 1,100 of the world's most advanced fifth-generation F-35 Lightning-II stealth fighters, apart from 195 of the same generation F-22 'Raptors', in last 10 years. The US, of course, has also produced over 4,600 variants of the F-16s and over 2,000 of the F/A-18s. There is as yet no European substitute for F-35, which several European countries like the UK, Germany, Italy, Denmark, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Finland and Poland have inducted or ordered.

Ukraine has managed to protect its people in no small measure with the help of American Patriot and NASAMS advanced air defence systems and stall deeper Russian advances with long range weapons like the high-mobility artillery rocket systems (HIMARS), the ATACM supersonic tactical ballistic missiles and around 4.5 million rounds of artillery ammunition, among others. Now, Europe may well need to provide military aid and a security umbrella to Ukraine solely by itself. But it will take a lot of doing, if at all it's possible.

[appusri]

8 minutes ago, Spartan said:

3Bn icharu...velli shopping chesko ani.. EU

kaani vatito weapons konadaniki US ki ravali.... Trump oppukodu ammadaniki...

akkade problem vachindi...anduke ceasefire antunnadu

Eppudu 3B icchaaru? Eppudu?

This is contribution as of 2024 Dec. EU has contribued more than what US did. And the propaganda about the US spending 350B is funny and I don't how people believe so blindly. Idhi kakunda, EU has just announced today around 900B USD. Its good for the US if the EU has to buy the weapons from the US, more jobs and no burden to the US.

 

About the weapons US has given -

The vast majority of the military aid the US providing Ukraine comes directly from existing U.S. military stockpiles.

- These weapons aren't brand new; they're mostly older stockpiles that the U.S. military planned to replace anyway.

- The funding approved by Congress actually goes to American companies (like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and Boeing) to build new, upgraded weapons for OUR OWN military.

- This helps the American economy:
Supports thousands of American jobs
Strengthens American manufacturing
Ensures our military gets newer, better weapons

- Ukraine gets help against Putin's aggression. From his military's horrific violations against innocent women and children.

- America gets stronger, safer, and better equipped in the process.

[appusri]

15 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Russia odu just Ukraine border la fight chesthe chalu…last 3 years lo Russia idokkate chesindi..

But look at US…Kore/Japan, Taiwan, Gulf waters, NATO, Quad etc anukunta entha spend chesindo…unlimited supply emi kadu kada weaponry..

Chinese aggression on Taiwan is a strategy..China flies sories near taiwan sea and American forces are on high alert…oorikine emi jaragaledu, russia-china understandings for sure…same with Kim and Iran….Middle East crisis motham Iran nundi ae modalu ayindi and its an expensive affair..Rogue forces with a rocket launcers ni modern military might kodtakdutundi…imagime thescale and cost involved in such things…

Yeah, thats valid argument. But Trump doesn't want to find the solution which is helpful to the Ukraine. He is helping Putin. EU has allocated announced 900B USD today. They are ready to buy US weapons from that money lesseing the financial burden on the US. Trump should make the deal in that direction, it would be win win for the US and Ukraine with EU money.

The weapons Russia using is outdated. US doesn't have to manufature new weapns. As mentione in my previous comment .

The vast majority of the military aid the US providing Ukraine comes directly from existing U.S. military stockpiles.

- These weapons aren't brand new; they're mostly older stockpiles that the U.S. military planned to replace anyway.

- The funding approved by Congress actually goes to American companies (like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and Boeing) to build new, upgraded weapons for OUR OWN military.

- This helps the American economy:
Supports thousands of American jobs
Strengthens American manufacturing
Ensures our military gets newer, better weapons

- Ukraine gets help against Putin's aggression. From his military's horrific violations against innocent women and children.

- America gets stronger, safer, and better equipped in the process.

 

But Trump is not working in that direction. He working to hurt the Ukraine. Thats the feeling from majority of EU countries.

[human1234]

48 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

Lets put it this way. As per Trump they have given $200-300 billion in aid and in military assistance. Literally for the last 3 years, Ukraine foyght with american weapons. World war-2 tarvata longest continuous conflict idi…Do you know what it costs to keep the war going on ?

Russia is not the same military super power as they used to be, but later half they improvised…few thousand tho drone tho American supplied air defence shields addukunayi…its a wow moment..but imagine $10k drone kosam $1 million worth equipment use chesthe war balance sheet emaitadi ? America matram enni rojulu supply chestadi ?

Four front la US needed air defence and supplies…motham antha Ukraine ki isthe adukkutuntadi US…Houthis dhebba ki red sea la US fleet stepped back, Japan la increased strength, Gulf la mobilize chesinaru forces after Hamas/israel conflict, as usual NaTo la spend cheyali…

On to of all these, US needs to prepare well for the any conflict…North Korea odu missile test chesthe, Japan and South Korea la vunna american forces ready ga vundali…Cinese aggression on Taiwan and American frces should be in standby…Gulf la stand by…ivanni kakunda ukraine ki military supplies..

Its not Russia…Its US which has been bleeding money and arsenal…! Later half la Iran, North Korea and China tho Russian dealings have turned the war upside down 

 

[Anta Assamey]

[Anta Assamey]

44 minutes ago, appusri said:

Eppudu 3B icchaaru? Eppudu?

This is contribution as of 2024 Dec. EU has contribued more than what US did. And the propaganda about the US spending 350B is funny and I don't how people believe so blindly. Idhi kakunda, EU has just announced today around 900B USD. Its good for the US if the EU has to buy the weapons from the US, more jobs and no burden to the US.

 

About the weapons US has given -

The vast majority of the military aid the US providing Ukraine comes directly from existing U.S. military stockpiles.

- These weapons aren't brand new; they're mostly older stockpiles that the U.S. military planned to replace anyway.

- The funding approved by Congress actually goes to American companies (like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and Boeing) to build new, upgraded weapons for OUR OWN military.

- This helps the American economy:
Supports thousands of American jobs
Strengthens American manufacturing
Ensures our military gets newer, better weapons

- Ukraine gets help against Putin's aggression. From his military's horrific violations against innocent women and children.

- America gets stronger, safer, and better equipped in the process.

@Spartan mention chesina money last 2 days back visit to UK lo ichina money 3 Billion...

[Assam_Bhayya]

adendhi andi, germany, finland, norway gurinchi thelusa, valla economy, military power gurinchi thelusa meeku, ani class peekinar, cut chesthe zalim gaadu mokalla meeda kurchuni thata ki saying"thap ayipoyindhi anna" antunnadu

 

 @CanadianMalodu @yslokesh @appusri

[CanadianMalodu]

8 minutes ago, Assam_Bhayya said:

adendhi andi, germany, finland, norway gurinchi thelusa, valla economy, military power gurinchi thelusa meeku, ani class peekinar, cut chesthe zalim gaadu mokalla meeda kurchuni thata ki saying"thap ayipoyindhi anna" antunnadu

 

 @CanadianMalodu @yslokesh @appusri

Tatah knows how to "negotiate". Whether it's Ukraine & EU, Canada or India. 

He knows his strengths and how to use it at the right time. Modi ee silent ga India ravalsi vachindhi. Balakrishna dialogue  type antha:

" Kodithe ..medical tests ki aasthulu ammina saripodhu.. pilla ..uka" anattu

Canada ki kooda idhe scene.

[Spartan]

51 minutes ago, Anta Assamey said:

@Spartan mention chesina money last 2 days back visit to UK lo ichina money 3 Billion...

@appusri

[nokia123]

3 hours ago, appusri said:

Why do you think so? People thought that Ukraine is going to loose in 3 days. They have been fighting for 3 years. Russia gained more land 2022, but they couldn't keep, Ukraine has claimed it back. They may not be able to keep their gains (except Crimea), if the war continious for another 6 to 9 months. This is the reason Zelensky has been asking for weapons to continue the war for some more time and it was the plan of Biden's govt too. People are overestimating Russia's strength. With the current rate of occupaton it will take 83 years for Russia to occupy full Ukraine. You are talking as if Russia is going to occupy tomorrow.

This is all because of us support. Once it withdraws picture will be completely different 

[appusri]

5 hours ago, Spartan said:

@appusri

Aa amount US lo vello shopping chesukomani icchina amount kaadhu. Belfast lo weapons anufacture cheyyadaniki. Thats temp relief to put Ukraine in better place for now before any negotiations. EU announced 900B and the EU (and UK) meetings are continuing.

[appusri]

 

[yslokesh]

13 hours ago, Assam_Bhayya said:

adendhi andi, germany, finland, norway gurinchi thelusa, valla economy, military power gurinchi thelusa meeku, ani class peekinar, cut chesthe zalim gaadu mokalla meeda kurchuni thata ki saying"thap ayipoyindhi anna" antunnadu

 

 @CanadianMalodu @yslokesh @appusri

 

10th Class standard mind set International affairs lo work out avvadhu thammi.

"War is fun as long as you are not in" -- ani oka old proverb.

I advise you watch "Saving private Ryan" on OTT (buy or rent), skip first 4 minutes and watch 28 minutes there after .... 

And then watch "Dunkirk", "Hacksaw Ridge" and then videos on "Battle of Stalingrad".

 

Europe is tired of wars. Two World Wars taught them the true meaning of five letter word PEACE.

War antoo vosthe...2 countries isolation lo fight cheyyavu ippudu vunna Geo-politics lo..

 

 

 

[yslokesh]

12 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Tatah knows how to "negotiate". Whether it's Ukraine & EU, Canada or India. 

He knows his strengths and how to use it at the right time. Modi ee silent ga India ravalsi vachindhi. Balakrishna dialogue  type antha:

" Kodithe ..medical tests ki aasthulu ammina saripodhu.. pilla ..uka" anattu

Canada ki kooda idhe scene.

I really appreciate Trump for what he is doing to the citizens that elected him to the power.

But not sure why people on Lucky dip H1-B are beating for Thaatha..sooner or later he will bring more chaos to desis.

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[yslokesh]

13 hours ago, Assam_Bhayya said:

adendhi andi, germany, finland, norway gurinchi thelusa, valla economy, military power gurinchi thelusa meeku, ani class peekinar, cut chesthe zalim gaadu mokalla meeda kurchuni thata ki saying"thap ayipoyindhi anna" antunnadu

 

 @CanadianMalodu @yslokesh @appusri

at least ee countries nundi asylum seekers vundaru gaaa..so mana desis including B'desh & Porkistan should not comment on these nations.

Millions across the world including Americans still migrate to these countries for better life...

 

Already cheppaanu kadha, I do not know why people on Lucky dip H1-B are beating for circus game of Trump. The very USA is built by migrants from UK, Ireland, Germany + other EU nations.

Medieval history varaku akkarleedhu, just the events form 1914-1945 correct gaa understand cheesukunte chaalu, ee world ni dictate cheesthunnadhi yevaro thelusthundhi...