Explaining tariffs to MAGA

[appusri]

 

 

[appusri]

 

[Hitman]

He replied it very beginning. The cost of importing would be the same as cost of local manufacturing. USA will bring back the manufacturing creating local employment increasing the GDP… 

[Dhed]

17 minutes ago, Hitman said:

He replied it very beginning. The cost of importing would be the same as cost of local manufacturing. USA will bring back the manufacturing creating local employment increasing the GDP… 

Then you would import more people to do the same job in America 

World is not so dependent on US like in the 80s and 90s 

can’t use tariffs without causing mutual harm 

gone are the days where US can threaten with sanctions 

[yemdoing]

25 minutes ago, Hitman said:

He replied it very beginning. The cost of importing would be the same as cost of local manufacturing. USA will bring back the manufacturing creating local employment increasing the GDP… 

Sure that can happen , but let's think through this. 

A hoodie sold by GAP costs $35 to customer . Guess how much it costs to make it ? Less than $5 . If it's banana republic it costs around $10 sells around $100 . Rest of the money goes to designing , marketing, corporate drama , wages , rents etc .. these numbers are accurate i built some of the reports for GAP . Even indian manufacturing is expensive for these companies. 

Can you make American tella labour work for pennies and make the same hoodie for $5 ? It would probably cost $25 just to make a hoodie . So consumer pays $55 for the same hoodie . 

Inflation goes up boom , now labor wants more wages boom again consumer goods goes up again. 

It's like saying why india cant make smart phones or even military weapons . It takes decades to build the entire pipeline. 

It's too late now , manufacturing industry is plucked out of usa decades back . Aathulu kalaka chethulu pattukunte yem labham.

 

[human1234]

Denika answer maa MAGA star @krishnaabro ke thelusu

[CanadianMalodu]

33 minutes ago, yemdoing said:

Sure that can happen , but let's think through this. 

A hoodie sold by GAP costs $35 to customer . Guess how much it costs to make it ? Less than $5 . If it's banana republic it costs around $10 sells around $100 . Rest of the money goes to designing , marketing, corporate drama , wages , rents etc .. these numbers are accurate i built some of the reports for GAP . Even indian manufacturing is expensive for these companies. 

Can you make American tella labour work for pennies and make the same hoodie for $5 ? It would probably cost $25 just to make a hoodie . So consumer pays $55 for the same hoodie . 

Inflation goes up boom , now labor wants more wages boom again consumer goods goes up again. 

It's like saying why india cant make smart phones or even military weapons . It takes decades to build the entire pipeline. 

It's too late now , manufacturing industry is plucked out of usa decades back . Aathulu kalaka chethulu pattukunte yem labham.

 

Production cost going up and wages catching up is temporary. Cost 'push' inflation can be curbed by increasing productivity, favourable taxation. Infact the governments tax base increases. Since monies are in the economy, you don't need to keep printing more. 

Offshoring remits the monies outside the country. Trade imbalances will only make currency weaker. You are not seeing that aspect with USD because of the way it's imposed on the world by military might there by creating an artificial propped up demand for USD, while it's simply being printed. 

Further, the constant trade imbalances remitted monies create an neverending need for stimulus monies which keep on raising the inflation anyway. You have seen that already. Then comes the need to run deficits. 

More jobs are being created in India ever. Then why are Indian governments borrowing and running deficits? Did you every ask why? Because India is a net importer. 

[nenu_meeku_telusa]

1 hour ago, Hitman said:

He replied it very beginning. The cost of importing would be the same as cost of local manufacturing. USA will bring back the manufacturing creating local employment increasing the GDP… 

Labor isn’t cheap in USA. They need labor in these factories and to pay them they have to increase prices. Imagine if iPhones are manufactured in USA with American employees in factories with no import, what would its price be? I will leave it to your imagination.

 

only way they can bring costs down with local manufacturing is with automation and less labor. But that’s not an overnight shift. It takes multiple years to get things setup and with automation demand it will demand. Automation isn’t built by itself. They need labor for that too. Reduction in Business greed is the only way to bring costs down with American manufacturing. But trump and Elon business greed will always increase. I’m not supporting any particular political party but these extreme measures all of a sudden will make a huge impact on daily workers. I hope I’m wrong. 

[nenu_meeku_telusa]

1 minute ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Production cost going up and wages catching up is temporary. Cost 'push' inflation can be curbed by increasing productivity, favourable taxation. Infact the governments tax base increases. Since monies are in the economy, you don't need to keep printing more. 

Offshoring remits the monies outside the country. Trade imbalances will only make currency weaker. You are not seeing that aspect with USD because of the way it's imposed on the world by military might there by creating an artificial propped up demand for USD, while it's simply being printed. 

Further, the constant trade imbalances remitted monies create an neverending need for stimulus monies which keep on raising the inflation anyway. You have seen that already. Then comes the need to run deficits. 

More jobs are being created in India ever. Then why are Indian governments borrowing and running deficits? Did you ever ask why?

Ori nee chaptgpt+ gola

[CanadianMalodu]

36 minutes ago, nenu_meeku_telusa said:

Ori nee chaptgpt+ gola

Nee muDD1 chat gpt ra babu. Meeku English raadha, leka ardham kadha?English sarigga raisna ChatGpt aa? Lol. Telugu lo rastha adhaina ardham avuthada leka appudu ardham kadhantava? Leka translator use chesaru antava? Concept matladu.

[yemdoing]

7 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Production cost going up and wages catching up is temporary. Cost 'push' inflation can be curbed by increasing productivity, favourable taxation. Infact the governments tax base increases. Since monies are in the economy, you don't need to keep printing more. 

Offshoring remits the monies outside the country. Trade imbalances will only make currency weaker. You are not seeing that aspect with USD because of the way it's imposed on the world by military might there by creating an artificial propped up demand for USD, while it's simply being printed. 

Further, the constant trade imbalances remitted monies create an neverending need for stimulus monies which keep on raising the inflation anyway. You have seen that already. Then comes the need to run deficits. 

More jobs are being created in India ever. Then why are Indian governments borrowing and running deficits? Did you every ask why?

Chatgpt sollu kakunda own ga cheppedi undha ? 

[CanadianMalodu]

11 minutes ago, yemdoing said:

Chatgpt sollu kakunda own ga cheppedi undha ? 

First of all ChatGpt nunchi nenu teesukuntunna ani neeku evadu cheppadu? Oka screenshot veyyi ChatGpt ni query vesi.

Second, established concepts or information nuvvu ekkada query run chesina Gpt or any other web search same info vasthadhi. Simple ga cheppali ante neeku sadarana jvaram vasthe Paracetamol vesukunnav anuko. Adhi nuvvu book chadivina, doctor ni adigina, ChatGpt ni adigina adhe answer vasthadhi.

Telisthe logic matladu, ledha pakkana koorchuo. 

[DonnyStrumpet]

1 hour ago, Hitman said:

He replied it very beginning. The cost of importing would be the same as cost of local manufacturing. USA will bring back the manufacturing creating local employment increasing the GDP… 

US doesn’t have the apparatus ready for that. Manufacturing requires raw materials, labor and a whole ecosystem for the manufacturing to happen here. I don’t think USA is ready yet. It’s hard to find raw materials easily here such as cotton etc.

 

I don’t even want to talk about the labour shortages. Lastly, scalability. Can people in USA work for 14 hours for 6 days a week. Those are working conditions in China, Bangladesh etc. 

Thatha words are goose bumping for sure. When he repeatedly mentions that America first. But America is not known for self reliability. They always used their mighty dollar to screw third world countries for their own benefit.

[Hitman]

5 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said:

US doesn’t have the apparatus ready for that. Manufacturing requires raw materials, labor and a whole ecosystem for the manufacturing to happen here. I don’t think USA is ready yet. It’s hard to find raw materials easily here such as cotton etc.

 

I don’t even want to talk about the labour shortages. Lastly, scalability. Can people in USA work for 14 hours for 6 days a week. Those are working conditions in China, Bangladesh etc. 

Thatha words are goose bumping for sure. When he repeatedly mentions that America first. But America is not known for self reliability. They always used their mighty dollar to screw third world countries for their own benefit.

@yemdoing @nenu_meeku_telusa @Dhed

I was just saying what MAGA's think. In reality it would be...

1 Chinese Worker Day = 7 American Worker days... 

7 Members Chinese Payroll = 1 Member American Payroll..

At the end it is like = 1 Chinese worker = 49 American workers...

DOLLAR TREE will become $50 TREE... 

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, nenu_meeku_telusa said:

Labor isn’t cheap in USA. They need labor in these factories and to pay them they have to increase prices. Imagine if iPhones are manufactured in USA with American employees in factories with no import, what would its price be? I will leave it to your imagination.

 

only way they can bring costs down with local manufacturing is with automation and less labor. But that’s not an overnight shift. It takes multiple years to get things setup and with automation demand it will demand. Automation isn’t built by itself. They need labor for that too. Reduction in Business greed is the only way to bring costs down with American manufacturing. But trump and Elon business greed will always increase. I’m not supporting any particular political party but these extreme measures all of a sudden will make a huge impact on daily workers. I hope I’m wrong. 

Neeku tenglish cheptha choodu. Production cost increase aithe, vache inflation temporary. Nee conceptual perception wrong. COL taggattu wages adjust avvadam adhi. But money US economy lone untadhi. Danini nuvvu ekkadiki remit cheyyatledhu. Economy lone money undadatam valla, neeku tax base increase avthadhi. Infact welfare spending tagginchochu appudu. More money unte, natural ga consumer spending capacity kooda peruhuthadhi. Governments indirect taxation nunchi malli money ni recover chesthane untayi. 

Second favorable taxation, US lo factory setup chesthunnaduku, say Louisiana lo pedithe more subsides, lower property taxes for extended term, More tax cuts from federal government ilage bane cut cheyyochu. Antha kooda end consumer ki transfer cheyyalsina avasaram ledhu.

Kavalsinantha Automation already undhi. Worker productivity ki necessary ki automation okate reason kaadhu. Even China lo production line lo janalu andharu nunchoni cell phones, electronic items tayari cheyyadam, battalu neyyadam lantivi cheyyaru.

Cheaper labour unna countries lo worker productivity general ga thakkuva untadhi. Adhi training, efficiency lo thakkuva lo ekkuva mandhini pettukovadaniki budget undadam valla vasthadhi.  E.g. Offshoring teams tho polisthe output US team ekkuva untadhi, endhuku ante say India lanti places  lo you can have higher headcount for the same output.

Nuvvu production offshore chesi remit chestha unte, money in circulation nunchi teesethunnav. Basic ga you're pumping and propping your offshoring location. Nee monies value inka taggipota untadhi.

Trade deficits run chesthane untav. US lo federal reserve undhi $ deniki tie chesi ledhu kabatti nuvvu stimulus money gudthuthane undalsi vasthadhi. Appudu government ee inflation prop chesthunnattu. As usual ga deficits run chesthane undali.

India best example. Money remit avtha unte Ela untadhi ani. IT jobs vasthane unnayi, kani India net importer ee. India lo dabbulu undatledhu. NRIs remittance US nunchi chestha unnaru kani adhi chala thakkuva amount. China tho trade deficits run chesthane undhi India. Andhuke Modi Tatah make in India, Athma Nirbhar Bharat antunnadu. Export pakkana pettu, self consumption ki kooda sufficient manufacturing ledhu. Andhuke Indian government deficits run cheyyalsi vastha untadhi. Dani cover cheyyadaniki debts and Dani meedha vaati servicing costs. Veetini offload cheyyadam kosam malli rupee ni devalue cheyyadam. 

Trade balance achieve chesthe by and large chala money within the country untadhi, adhi US Aina India Aina any other country. 

Businesses by default greedy untayi. India lo, China lo businesses greedy ga undava? Altruism chopinchi thakkuva ki ammuthara enti? America lo kavalane manufacturing offshore modalettaru. Just to implement, neoliberalism. Environment peru cheppi addam Aina legislation chesi production costs pencharu. Parallel ga tariffs teesesi, free trade annaru kabatti production bayatiki vellindhi. Labour costs okate kaadhu.