Explaining tariffs to MAGA

[nenu_meeku_telusa]

1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Nee muDD1 chat gpt ra babu. Meeku English raadha, leka ardham kadha?English sarigga raisna ChatGpt aa? Lol. Telugu lo rastha adhaina ardham avuthada leka appudu ardham kadhantava? Leka translator use chesaru antava? Concept matladu.

Identi telugu version or chatgpt aaa? 

[DonnyStrumpet]

14 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Neeku tenglish cheptha choodu. Production cost increase aithe, vache inflation temporary. Nee conceptual perception wrong. COL taggattu wages adjust avvadam adhi. But money US economy lone untadhi. Danini nuvvu ekkadiki remit cheyyatledhu. Economy lone money undadatam valla, neeku tax base increase avthadhi. Infact welfare spending tagginchochu appudu. More money unte, natural ga consumer spending capacity kooda peruhuthadhi. Governments indirect taxation nunchi malli money ni recover chesthane untayi. 

Second favorable taxation, US lo factory setup chesthunnaduku, say Louisiana lo pedithe more subsides, lower property taxes for extended term, More tax cuts from federal government ilage bane cut cheyyochu. Antha kooda end consumer ki transfer cheyyalsina avasaram ledhu.

Kavalsinantha Automation already undhi. Worker productivity ki necessary ki automation okate reason kaadhu. Even China lo production line lo janalu andharu nunchoni cell phones, electronic items tayari cheyyadam, battalu neyyadam lantivi cheyyaru.

Cheaper labour unna countries lo worker productivity general ga thakkuva untadhi. Adhi training, efficiency lo thakkuva lo ekkuva mandhini pettukovadaniki budget undadam valla vasthadhi.  E.g. Offshoring teams tho polisthe output US team ekkuva untadhi, endhuku ante say India lanti places  lo you can have higher headcount for the same output.

Nuvvu production offshore chesi remit chestha unte, money in circulation nunchi teesethunnav. Basic ga you're pumping and propping your offshoring location. Nee monies value inka taggipota untadhi.

Trade deficits run chesthane untav. US lo federal reserve undhi $ deniki tie chesi ledhu kabatti nuvvu stimulus money gudthuthane undalsi vasthadhi. Appudu government ee inflation prop chesthunnattu. As usual ga deficits run chesthane undali.

India best example. Money remit avtha unte Ela untadhi ani. IT jobs vasthane unnayi, kani India net importer ee. India lo dabbulu undatledhu. NRIs remittance US nunchi chestha unnaru kani adhi chala thakkuva amount. China tho trade deficits run chesthane undhi India. Andhuke Modi Tatah make in India, Athma Nirbhar Bharat antunnadu. Export pakkana pettu, self consumption ki kooda sufficient manufacturing ledhu. Andhuke Indian government deficits run cheyyalsi vastha untadhi. Dani cover cheyyadaniki debts and Dani meedha vaati servicing costs. Veetini offload cheyyadam kosam malli rupee ni devalue cheyyadam. 

Trade balance achieve chesthe by and large chala money within the country untadhi, adhi US Aina India Aina any other country. 

Businesses by default greedy untayi. India lo, China lo businesses greedy ga undava? Altruism chopinchi thakkuva ki ammuthara enti? America lo kavalane manufacturing offshore modalettaru. Just to implement, neoliberalism. Environment peru cheppi addam Aina legislation chesi production costs pencharu. Parallel ga tariffs teesesi, free trade annaru kabatti production bayatiki vellindhi. Labour costs okate kaadhu.

How is this not communism then? You are talking about a borderline closed economy. USA should be the last nation that should think in these terms. Many rich people across the globe invest here in USA.
 

USA is a big advocate for globalization. They give an elevator talk to other countries all the time to facilitate their trade for oil, minerals and weapons. This is a complete flip flop. USA can bring back manufacturing and it can decrease trade  deficit. It’s their discretion.

 

It can’t be all money. But Trump is making it that way. It has consequences 

 

From here on other countries will develop nuclear powers to generate more electricity. And USA should be okay with that. Also, they might ask USA to pay money for installing their military bases in Germany and South Korea etc. Trump needs to realize that there is another side to the coin as well 

[nenu_meeku_telusa]

8 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Neeku tenglish cheptha choodu. Production cost increase aithe, vache inflation temporary. Nee conceptual perception wrong. COL taggattu wages adjust avvadam adhi. But money US economy lone untadhi. Danini nuvvu ekkadiki remit cheyyatledhu. Economy lone money undadatam valla, neeku tax base increase avthadhi. Infact welfare spending tagginchochu appudu. More money unte, natural ga consumer spending capacity kooda peruhuthadhi. Governments indirect taxation nunchi malli money ni recover chesthane untayi. 

Second favorable taxation, US lo factory setup chesthunnaduku, say Louisiana lo pedithe more subsides, lower property taxes for extended term, More tax cuts from federal government ilage bane cut cheyyochu. Antha kooda end consumer ki transfer cheyyalsina avasaram ledhu.

Kavalsinantha Automation already undhi. Worker productivity ki necessary ki automation okate reason kaadhu. Even China lo production line lo janalu andharu nunchoni cell phones, electronic items tayari cheyyadam, battalu neyyadam lantivi cheyyaru.

Cheaper labour unna countries lo worker productivity general ga thakkuva untadhi. Adhi training, efficiency lo thakkuva lo ekkuva mandhini pettukovadaniki budget undadam valla vasthadhi.  E.g. Offshoring teams tho polisthe output US team ekkuva untadhi, endhuku ante say India lanti places  lo you can have higher headcount for the same output.

Nuvvu production offshore chesi remit chestha unte, money in circulation nunchi teesethunnav. Basic ga you're pumping and propping your offshoring location. Nee monies value inka taggipota untadhi.

Trade deficits run chesthane untav. US lo federal reserve undhi $ deniki tie chesi ledhu kabatti nuvvu stimulus money gudthuthane undalsi vasthadhi. Appudu government ee inflation prop chesthunnattu. As usual ga deficits run chesthane undali.

India best example. Money remit avtha unte Ela untadhi ani. IT jobs vasthane unnayi, kani India net importer ee. India lo dabbulu undatledhu. NRIs remittance US nunchi chestha unnaru kani adhi chala thakkuva amount. China tho trade deficits run chesthane undhi India. Andhuke Modi Tatah make in India, Athma Nirbhar Bharat antunnadu. Export pakkana pettu, self consumption ki kooda sufficient manufacturing ledhu. Andhuke Indian government deficits run cheyyalsi vastha untadhi. Dani cover cheyyadaniki debts and Dani meedha vaati servicing costs. Veetini offload cheyyadam kosam malli rupee ni devalue cheyyadam. 

Trade balance achieve chesthe by and large chala money within the country untadhi, adhi US Aina India Aina any other country. 

Businesses by default greedy untayi. India lo, China lo businesses greedy ga undava? Altruism chopinchi thakkuva ki ammuthara enti? America lo kavalane manufacturing offshore modalettaru. Just to implement, neoliberalism. Environment peru cheppi addam Aina legislation chesi production costs pencharu. Parallel ga tariffs teesesi, free trade annaru kabatti production bayatiki vellindhi. Labour costs okate kaadhu.

Pellainda? Online lone intha sepu opikaga raastunnavante intlo nee wife aipoinde.

 

added this to my reading list. Will print it out and make it into a book and will read. One sentence answer, I don’t agree. Those are all assumptions. Americans most of them live paycheck to paycheck. Before economy recovers from these tariff impacts they all will be on road. 

[KathiRamdaas]

The basic Idea is to encourage local made or bring companies to US to create investments and jobs.

[CanadianMalodu]

31 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said:

US doesn’t have the apparatus ready for that. Manufacturing requires raw materials, labor and a whole ecosystem for the manufacturing to happen here. I don’t think USA is ready yet. It’s hard to find raw materials easily here such as cotton etc.

 

I don’t even want to talk about the labour shortages. Lastly, scalability. Can people in USA work for 14 hours for 6 days a week. Those are working conditions in China, Bangladesh etc. 

Thatha words are goose bumping for sure. When he repeatedly mentions that America first. But America is not known for self reliability. They always used their mighty dollar to screw third world countries for their own benefit.

#1 Ikkada US lo kothaga manufacturing invent cheyyatledhu. Already IP hold chestha unnadhe. Production costs offset cheyyadaniki pampincharu bayatiki anthe. Setup cheyyadaniki Mari peddha time pattadhu.  War times nations industrial capacity ni chala fast ga ramp up chesthayi. Infact US kooda WWII lo extreme ramp up. You can always do it.

#2. Raw material varaku nuvvu bayata konukovachu. Processing costs bayatiki pamapavu kadha. Aa money local economy lone untadhi.

#3 ee labour working hours cumulative ga chepthunnava, leka sector specific aa ? Ee specific sector ivi? 

#4 Last part "Petro dollar" plus international trade ni "reserve currencies" lo cheyyadam valla vachina side effect. But either way that's truth and valid one.

[CanadianMalodu]

2 minutes ago, nenu_meeku_telusa said:

Pellainda? Online lone intha sepu opikaga raastunnavante intlo nee wife aipoinde.

 

added this to my reading list. Will print it out and make it into a book and will read. One sentence answer, I don’t agree. Those are all assumptions. Americans most of them live paycheck to paycheck. Before economy recovers from these tariff impacts they all will be on road. 

Work unnapudu, nenu type cheyyanu kadha.

Assumptions nuvvu chesinavi, ippudu Americans road meedha padatharu antunnav kadha adhi.

Simple ga one line lo cheptha vinu, trade deficits lenappudu evaru road meedha unnaru, deficits unnapudu evaru road meedha unnaru choodu. Aa timeline koncham venaki velli choosthe you will get clarity. 

[CanadianMalodu]

28 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said:

How is this not communism then? You are talking about a borderline closed economy. USA should be the last nation that should think in these terms. Many rich people across the globe invest here in USA.
 

USA is a big advocate for globalization. They give an elevator talk to other countries all the time to facilitate their trade for oil, minerals and weapons. This is a complete flip flop. USA can bring back manufacturing and it can decrease trade  deficit. It’s their discretion.

 

It can’t be all money. But Trump is making it that way. It has consequences 

 

From here on other countries will develop nuclear powers to generate more electricity. And USA should be okay with that. Also, they might ask USA to pay money for installing their military bases in Germany and South Korea etc. Trump needs to realize that there is another side to the coin as well 

How do you say it's  communism? How do you define communism?

Idhi protectionism avthadhi. Free market two way street, one side kadhu kadha. US globalist elite neoliberalism implement cheyyaka mundhu ilane undedhi.

Globalisation was way to facilitate global elite hegemony. Infact globalisation entire middle class and working class ki throughout the world detrimental ee. West lo middle class crash avvatam start ayyindhi appude. India lo middle class grow avvadam antaru kani, net importer kindha undi deficits plus debts undesariki India lo middle class redefine cheyyabadindhi. Houses, plots unna vallu middle to upper middle or rich class ki elevate ayyaru. That's all inflation.  

Benefit only remittance dollars kosam pani chese vallaki vachindhi anthe.

Germany is a looser in WWII. Global elites ki against ga they won't do anything, and can't do anything. Ala cheyyadaniki industrial capacity, public will rendu levu. South Korea existence ee US dependent. Without US help vallu North Korea occupation nunchi tappinchikoleru. All their monies they can't fight north Korea  headon. 

[lollilolli2020]

47 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

#1 Ikkada US lo kothaga manufacturing invent cheyyatledhu. Already IP hold chestha unnadhe. Production costs offset cheyyadaniki pampincharu bayatiki anthe. Setup cheyyadaniki Mari peddha time pattadhu.  War times nations industrial capacity ni chala fast ga ramp up chesthayi. Infact US kooda WWII lo extreme ramp up. You can always do it.

#2. Raw material varaku nuvvu bayata konukovachu. Processing costs bayatiki pamapavu kadha. Aa money local economy lone untadhi.

#3 ee labour working hours cumulative ga chepthunnava, leka sector specific aa ? Ee specific sector ivi? 

#4 Last part "Petro dollar" plus international trade ni "reserve currencies" lo cheyyadam valla vachina side effect. But either way that's truth and valid one.

$1000 iphone ravali anna 
$10 ki H&M tshirt ravali anna alanti labor working ni exploit cheste ne kada possible ayindii. 
ippudu can ppl afford to pay 10$ for a McChicken types lo cheppademo 

[lollilolli2020]

46 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Work unnapudu, nenu type cheyyanu kadha.

Assumptions nuvvu chesinavi, ippudu Americans road meedha padatharu antunnav kadha adhi.

Simple ga one line lo cheptha vinu, trade deficits lenappudu evaru road meedha unnaru, deficits unnapudu evaru road meedha unnaru choodu. Aa timeline koncham venaki velli choosthe you will get clarity. 

ee point ardam kaale explain with example

[CanadianMalodu]

2 hours ago, lollilolli2020 said:

$1000 iphone ravali anna 
$10 ki H&M tshirt ravali anna alanti labor working ni exploit cheste ne kada possible ayindii. 
ippudu can ppl afford to pay 10$ for a McChicken types lo cheppademo 

Production US lo back vasthe, direct ga $1000 undedhi $3000 ayipodu. Manufacturing cost ante labour cost okate cost kadhu. Production costs ni offset cheyyochu kooda. Akkada government "rayatilu Ivvochu" say facility ni Louisiana or Mississippi lo pettochu. Vallu katte property taxes, power bills, other  utility bills ni subsidize cheyyochu. On top that Corp tax rates inka competitive cheyyochu for those manufacturing here vs overseas. 

Plus, perigina wages workers ki velthe  malli income taxes, consumption taxes lo workers nunchi govt teesukuntane untadhi. Aa workers local economy ni boosting chesthane untaru through consumption. Money local economy lo circulate avthane untadhi. 

India SEZ peru cheppi chesedhi idhe kadha. 

Ippudu wage stagnation lo undhi, job lepesi mcChicken kone situation lo unchi, social welfare, ani malli stimulus money print chese Dani kante idhi chala better. Stimulus money print entha chesthe antha inflation compound avthadhi.

[CanadianMalodu]

51 minutes ago, lollilolli2020 said:

ee point ardam kaale explain with example

Net importer or self sufficiency plus net exporter anedhi important. Appudu dabbulu nee economy lo untunnaya bayatiki velthunnaya anedhi telusthadhi. 

US economy ni pre offshoring 1980s nunchi 1970s ki choodu. You will see more wealthy middle class, more pumped up worker class and generally healthy economy. Appudu US self sufficient plus net exporter kooda. 

[lollilolli2020]

10 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Production US lo back vasthe, direct ga $1000 undedhi $3000 ayipodu. Manufacturing cost ante labour cost okate cost. Production costs ni offset cheyyochu kooda. Akkada government "rayatilu Ivvochu" say facility ni Louisiana or Mississippi lo pettochu. Vallu katte property taxes, power bills, other  utility bills ni subsidize cheyyochu. On top that Corp tax rates inka competitive cheyyochu for those manufacturing here vs overseas. 

Plus, perigina wages workers ki velthe  malli income taxes, consumption taxes lo workers nunchi govt teesukuntane untadhi. Aa workers local economy ni boosting chesthane untaru through consumption. Money local economy lo circulate avthane untadhi. 

India SEZ peru cheppi chesedhi idhe kadha. 

Ippudu wage stagnation lo undhi, job lepesi mcChicken kone situation lo unchi, social welfare, ani malli stimulus money print chese Dani kante idhi chala better. Stimulus money print entha chesthe antha inflation compound avthadhi.

adi china chesindii. 

india lo SEZ musugulo real estate danda. 

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, lollilolli2020 said:

adi china chesindii. 

india lo SEZ musugulo real estate danda. 

Real estate eppudu undedhe. Kani sora chepalaki metha malli chinna chepale. So, SEZ employees sampadisthene kadha RE Aina nadichedhi. Valle kadha retail market,cafes, Pizzerias, Malls, Restaurants, Bikes, Cars ila lot of products ki consumers. 

China dabbulu bayatiki ponivaddhu. China maintains trade surplus with almost all countries. Andhari dabbulu China ki potha untayi. 

[nenu_meeku_telusa]

3 hours ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Work unnapudu, nenu type cheyyanu kadha.

Assumptions nuvvu chesinavi, ippudu Americans road meedha padatharu antunnav kadha adhi.

Simple ga one line lo cheptha vinu, trade deficits lenappudu evaru road meedha unnaru, deficits unnapudu evaru road meedha unnaru choodu. Aa timeline koncham venaki velli choosthe you will get clarity. 

Vammo vayyooo aa essaylu endi. Nuvvikkada kaadu Reddit and x lo undalsinavadivi

You think you have concrete data for your info. Which training data are you using?

[CanadianMalodu]

1 hour ago, nenu_meeku_telusa said:

Vammo vayyooo aa essaylu endi. Nuvvikkada kaadu Reddit and x lo undalsinavadivi

You think you have concrete data for your info. Which training data are you using?

Reddit is one leftist echo chamber. X lo unna but X has lot of bot and troll accounts. Aa vishyam lo ee mata ki aa mata, DB is far better. Maha aithe Baboru ki support ga Pacha bots and troll posts. But censorship ledhu, Infact far better free speech. 

Deniki concrete data kavali? Antha start ayyindhi ee 90's lo NAFTA and GATT vallane kadha Mexico and China enter ayyayi. Dani taruvatah mid 90s ki WTO  vachi pushed more liberalization. Andhuke neo-liberalism anedhi. Third world was forced to open up their markets. End game lo losers motham middle class in US and third world.