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[11_MohanReddy]

29 minutes ago, rational said:

Do you think its practically possible to test every cell to check the uptake? but if reasonbale sampling tests are done on different cells based on previous research experience and data one can propose that there is an uptake or not. Insisting its not sufficient is like chasing endless hypothetical.  

U said in your previous statement That " Enough evidence is there for existence and non existence of GOD". I want to know what are those evidences and how come you came to that conclusion.

How do you think scientific discoveries are made? Most statements that are proven come with statements like "endothelial cells cannot uptake virus X under these conditions". They don't come with statements like "there is no God". You can say you didn't find God in your 40 years of life experience which would be a fair statement. There is as much evidence of God's existence as there is evidence for God's absence which is none. There maybe zero evidence of God's existence, but there is also zero evidence of God's absence. It doesn't prove that there is a no God which is what atheists believe. 

[rational]

14 minutes ago, 11_MohanReddy said:

How do you think scientific discoveries are made? Most statements that are proven come with statements like "endothelial cells cannot uptake virus X under these conditions". They don't come with statements like "there is no God". You can say you didn't find God in your 40 years of life experience which would be a fair statement. There is as much evidence of God's existence as there is as evidence for God's absence which is none. There maybe zero evidence of God's existence, but there is also zero evidence of God's absence. It doesn't prove that there is a no God which is what atheists believe. 

Atheist, " there is no GOD" comes from the definition of the theists concept of GOD. If theists can come with better version of GOD with practical evidence then the onus will be on atheists to disprove the newly proposed GOD.

"  There is as much evidence of God's existence as there is as evidence for God's absence which is none. There maybe zero evidence of God's existence, but there is also zero evidence of God's absence."

I keep on asking on what basis are you saying this statement?? 

 

[11_MohanReddy]

1 minute ago, rational said:

Atheist, " there is no GOD" comes from the definition of the theists concept of GOD. If theists can come with better version of GOD with practical evidence then the onus will be on atheists to disapprove the newly proposed GOD.

"  There is as much evidence of God's existence as there is as evidence for God's absence which is none. There maybe zero evidence of God's existence, but there is also zero evidence of God's absence."

I keep on asking on what basis are you saying this statement?? 

 

Dude you seem to have trouble understanding what I typed. There is zero evidence of God's existence. There is also zero evidence of God's absence. So, there is God is a flawed statement. There is no God is also a logical fallacy. Both statements are logically wrong because there is no proof. 

[rational]

30 minutes ago, andhra_jp said:

 

 

 

God Vs No God is never ending debate and probably will never solve ..

Atheists can never answer some fundamental questions like
 

Why Big Bang happened?

What happened before BigBang ?

What is consciousness and why did it evolve?

alagee devudu vunnaru anee vallu should answer whether god is allah or jesus or krishna and where is he/she watching us from outer space or manaloonee vunnaraa and with proofs? 

Theists should answer Is god sleeping when Sati and other nonsense practices of Hinduism are practiced ?

Theists should answer is God sleeping when WW wars were happening ?

Why cannot god appear before us and request Muslims, Christians , Hindus etc not to fight against each other ?

Atheists answers will be on evidence base. What do you think CERN is doing? if you closely follow them you will seee what breaks throughs are done in CERN on big bang. there is still so much research is left. It takes time.

Same with consciousness research is going please check.

Some problems are easy to crack some are not.

[11_MohanReddy]

If a scientist says there is no gene responsible for race because there is no proof for it, he would be logically incorrect. It just means no one has found it yet. So, scientists don't make statements like that. 

[11_MohanReddy]

There is no God is logically flawed because for you to say there is no "something", you need to define that something and show what you have done to find it and present your case that you did not find it under certain conditions. I believe someone who says, "I don't know who God is, I didn't find him in the past 40 years of my life experience". That is more logical than statements like "there is no God". 

[rational]

4 minutes ago, 11_MohanReddy said:

Dude you seem to have trouble understanding what I typed. There is zero evidence of God's existence. There is also zero evidence of God's absence. So, there is God is a flawed statement. There is no God is also a logical fallacy. Both statements are logically wrong because there is no proof. 

Naah man i am clear.  "God existence, no existence zero evidence is your statement "? based on previous personal experience? based on experiments? observations? etc Some how you gathered data and came to this conclusion right. I want to know what are those that lead you to propose this?

 

[andhra_jp]

35 minutes ago, rational said:

Same with consciousness research is going please check.

Some problems are easy to crack some are not.

Thats what i am saying there are still many unsolved problems which are not easy to crack and till then concept of god will continue to exist.

Please check below entire list with regards to unsolved problems in neuroscience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_neuroscience

[andhra_jp]

41 minutes ago, rational said:

Atheists answers will be on evidence base. What do you think CERN is doing? if you closely follow them you will seee what breaks throughs are done in CERN on big bang. there is still so much research is left. It takes time.

I am bit aware of purpose of CERN and their work. Seen few documentaries in the past..

There are still too many things we  don't know anna... 

Origin and future of the universe: 
How did the conditions for anything to exist arise? 
Is the universe heading towards a Big Freeze, a Big Rip, a Big Crunch, or a Big Bounce?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_physics#Cosmology_and_general_relativity

Until then concept of god will continue in homo sapiens 

[rational]

1 hour ago, andhra_jp said:

Thats what i am saying there are still many unsolved problems which are not easy to crack and till then concept of god will continue to exist.

Please check below entire list with regards to unsolved problems in neuroscience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_neuroscience

if you have unsolved problem then how can that be attributed to act of GOD? if you go through history how many unsolved mysteries claimed as Act of God are disproven with science. 

If scientists cant prove a problem and theists claim its an act of GOD? then they have to explain how.

 

[andhra_jp]

2 hours ago, rational said:

if you have unsolved problem then how can that be attributed to act of GOD? if you go through history how many unsolved mysteries claimed as Act of God are disproven with science. 

If scientists cant prove a problem and theists claim its an act of GOD? then they have to explain how.

 

Read my comments properly bhayya.. i said concept of god will continue to exist.. nuvvu nenu emi marchaleemu .. 

try changing people in Saudi Arabia/Syria/Iraq... and good luck in converting them to atheism..

Vatican Gorellu kuda vunnaru and anta yenduku southern states in US loo chala mandi vunnaru who trust every word of bible ..

[CanadianMalodu]

4 hours ago, rational said:

if you have unsolved problem then how can that be attributed to act of GOD? if you go through history how many unsolved mysteries claimed as Act of God are disproven with science. 

If scientists cant prove a problem and theists claim its an act of GOD? then they have to explain how.

 

"Scientists" are not some monolithic block of atheists, whom you're trying to put against Theists. There are many God believers within the scientific community, infact very notable ones. 

[11_MohanReddy]

6 hours ago, rational said:

Naah man i am clear.  "God existence, no existence zero evidence is your statement "? based on previous personal experience? based on experiments? observations? etc Some how you gathered data and came to this conclusion right. I want to know what are those that lead you to propose this?

 

I haven't defined God yet. Didn't come that far. 

[rational]

1 hour ago, CanadianMalodu said:

"Scientists" are not some monolithic block of atheists, whom you're trying to put against Theists. There are many God believers within the scientific community, infact very notable ones. 

I didnt say scientists are all atheists? I simply pointed out that scientists are the one who prove or disprove based on the evidence. And every atheist doesnt need to be scientist. The point i am making here  is about evidence.  

[rational]

1 hour ago, 11_MohanReddy said:

I haven't defined God yet. Didn't come that far. 

you haven't defined GOD but you can say that "enough proof of gods existence and enough proof of non existence"