Mancode Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 pros : thro amit shah and modi , bjp grown leaps , all over india, internal security is top notch no terror attacks, infra in india moved rapidly ,roads & bridges, rail lines , new trains , flyovers etc etc probably the best in south asia , no corruption in delivering welfare schemes, DBT schemes, Pm avas yojana, ayushmaan bharat (health scheme) , skill development & entreprenship programs , swatchh bharat and also as a party bjp improved they are forming governments by hook or crook by getting support of mlas amit shah knows how to take care of media and corrupt regional parties and make them dance to his tunes via ED,CBI,IT etc , BJP ideology spread everywherre founders shyama prasada mukherjee & stalwarts lk advani's wishes fulfilled like article 370removal, CAA, ram mandir , etc etc now it is clear in indian politics if you want to be inpolitics , message is clear join bjp , or make an alliance and or stay neutral but dont join opposition alliance otherwise regional parties get messed up badly by exposing their corruption , nepotism ,other weaknesses india's stature grown at world stage grown very much cons : crony capitalism is at peaks modi as pm asked srilankan pm to give a contract to adani, which is scary adani taking over ports and aiports by blackmailing other businessmen that ED /CBI will raid for ambani modi squeezed Bsnl ,and changed TRAI rules from time to time, to benefit him modi will complete this term still i would rate modi sarkaar as 3.5/5 , bjp is here to stay for another 10-15 years at centre ..and like prashant kishor said modi/shah combine made bjp as strong force, they will strong party with 150-200-250 mp seats in centre in power or opposition for another 30 yrs @appusri @Teluguredu 1 Quote
Flush Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Mancode said: pros : thro amit shah and modi , bjp grown leaps , all over india, internal security is top notch no terror attacks, infra in india moved rapidly ,roads & bridges, rail lines , new trains , flyovers etc etc probably the best in south asia , no corruption in delivering welfare schemes, DBT schemes, Pm avas yojana, ayushmaan bharat (health scheme) , skill development & entreprenship programs , swatchh bharat and also as a party bjp improved they are forming governments by hook or crook by getting support of mlas amit shah knows how to take care of media and corrupt regional parties and make them dance to his tuned via ED,CBI,IT etc , BJP ideology spread everywherre founders shyama prasada mukherjee & stalwarts lk advani's wishes fulfilled like article 370removal, CAA, ram mandir , etc etc now it is clear in indian politics if you want to be inpolitics , message is clear join bjp , or make an alliance and or stay neutral but dont join opposition alliance otherwise regional parties get messed up badly by exposing their corruption , nepotism ,other weaknesses cons : crony capitalism is at peaks modi as pm asked srilankan pm to give a contract to adani, which is scary adani taking over ports and aiports by blackmailing other businessmen that ED /CBI will raid for ambani modi squeezed Bsnl ,and changed TRAI rules from time to time, to benefit him still i would rate modi sarkaar as 3.5/5 , bjp is here to stay for another 10-15 years at centre ..and like prashant kishor said modi/shah combine made bjp as strong force, they will strong party with 150-200-250 mp seats in centre in power or opposition @appusri While your note praises the BJP and its leadership under Narendra Modi and Amit Shah, it’s essential to analyze these claims with a critical lens. It’s true that the party has significantly expanded its footprint across India, but the means and consequences of this growth deserve deeper scrutiny. Internal Security & Terrorism The assertion that there have been no terror attacks under the Modi government is misleading. Incidents such as the Pulwama attack in 2019, which claimed the lives of 40 CRPF personnel, occurred under this regime. Moreover, the claim of top-notch internal security ignores rising communal tensions, mob lynchings, and targeted violence—especially against minorities—which have intensified in recent years. These are also forms of internal insecurity. Infrastructure Push Yes, infrastructure projects have progressed—highways, railways, and airports—but this is not a unique achievement. Every government has invested in infrastructure. The question is at what cost and with what intent. Much of the infrastructure push appears heavily centralized and politicized, often used for image-building rather than empowering states or addressing local needs. Furthermore, many tenders are allegedly skewed toward a few large corporates, like Adani and Ambani, raising concerns of crony capitalism and monopolization of strategic assets like ports, airports, and power infrastructure. The dismantling of BSNL to boost private telecom players like Jio is a prime example of state-enabled private expansion at public expense. Welfare Schemes & Corruption While schemes like DBT, Ayushman Bharat, and PM Awas Yojana are operational, their efficacy and implementation vary. Ground reports reveal exclusion errors, fake beneficiaries, bureaucratic hurdles, and insufficient funding. Swachh Bharat has improved sanitation metrics, but it’s also been criticized for being more about optics (photo-ops with brooms) than sustained behavior change or sewage infrastructure. The claim of “no corruption” is highly questionable. There have been scandals, especially involving electoral bonds, opaque funding to political parties, favoritism in contracts, and unexplained wealth accumulation of certain business allies. The absence of visible corruption doesn’t imply clean governance—it may point to control over investigative agencies and media silence. Undemocratic Political Expansion Yes, BJP has grown politically—but often through toppling elected state governments using defectors, backdoor entries, and inducements. This is not a sign of democratic strength but institutional erosion. BJP’s use of ED, CBI, and IT departments to intimidate opposition leaders and media houses cannot be seen as good governance—it’s a mark of authoritarian consolidation. This fear-driven political culture, where parties are pressured to align with BJP or risk annihilation, is harmful to democracy. It sends the message that opposition is criminal by default, and dissent will be punished—not debated. This weakens federalism and the spirit of democratic pluralism. Ideological Fulfillment vs. Social Consequences The note lauds the removal of Article 370, the construction of the Ram Mandir, and the CAA. While these fulfill BJP’s ideological goals, they’ve come at the cost of social cohesion and constitutional values. Kashmir remains politically silenced and deeply alienated. CAA has been widely criticized for being discriminatory and polarizing, leading to widespread protests and unrest. These steps, while celebrated by BJP’s base, are deeply divisive and exclusionary. Crony Capitalism & Modi-Adani-Ambani Nexus This is perhaps the most concerning trend: the economic favoritism toward a few corporate houses. Whether it’s the Sri Lanka port deal allegedly pushed for Adani, or Jio’s meteoric rise aided by policy shifts, the government’s closeness with select business groups raises red flags. The economy is increasingly skewed, MSMEs are suffering, unemployment remains high, and the gap between rich and poor has widened significantly. Conclusion While BJP under Modi-Shah has created a powerful electoral machine, it has done so often by compromising institutions, curbing dissent, centralizing power, and fostering fear—not consensus. It’s misleading to paint this political domination as purely a result of good governance. Much of it has been enabled through media control, misuse of investigative agencies, and narrative manipulation. The real strength of a democracy lies in vibrant opposition, independent institutions, and respect for dissent—all of which are currently under threat. Thus, instead of accepting the narrative that BJP is here to stay for 10–15 years, we must ask: at what cost? Longevity in power should not come at the expense of democratic principles, economic equity, and social harmony. 2 Quote
Popular Post adavilo_baatasaari Posted April 6 Popular Post Report Posted April 6 Pros: It is not Congress Cons: It is still BJP. Modi though is much needed leader in the current scenario. 1 2 3 Quote
Mancode Posted April 6 Author Report Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, Flush said: While your note praises the BJP and its leadership under Narendra Modi and Amit Shah, it’s essential to analyze these claims with a critical lens. It’s true that the party has significantly expanded its footprint across India, but the means and consequences of this growth deserve deeper scrutiny. Internal Security & Terrorism The assertion that there have been no terror attacks under the Modi government is misleading. Incidents such as the Pulwama attack in 2019, which claimed the lives of 40 CRPF personnel, occurred under this regime. Moreover, the claim of top-notch internal security ignores rising communal tensions, mob lynchings, and targeted violence—especially against minorities—which have intensified in recent years. These are also forms of internal insecurity. Infrastructure Push Yes, infrastructure projects have progressed—highways, railways, and airports—but this is not a unique achievement. Every government has invested in infrastructure. The question is at what cost and with what intent. Much of the infrastructure push appears heavily centralized and politicized, often used for image-building rather than empowering states or addressing local needs. Furthermore, many tenders are allegedly skewed toward a few large corporates, like Adani and Ambani, raising concerns of crony capitalism and monopolization of strategic assets like ports, airports, and power infrastructure. The dismantling of BSNL to boost private telecom players like Jio is a prime example of state-enabled private expansion at public expense. Welfare Schemes & Corruption While schemes like DBT, Ayushman Bharat, and PM Awas Yojana are operational, their efficacy and implementation vary. Ground reports reveal exclusion errors, fake beneficiaries, bureaucratic hurdles, and insufficient funding. Swachh Bharat has improved sanitation metrics, but it’s also been criticized for being more about optics (photo-ops with brooms) than sustained behavior change or sewage infrastructure. The claim of “no corruption” is highly questionable. There have been scandals, especially involving electoral bonds, opaque funding to political parties, favoritism in contracts, and unexplained wealth accumulation of certain business allies. The absence of visible corruption doesn’t imply clean governance—it may point to control over investigative agencies and media silence. Undemocratic Political Expansion Yes, BJP has grown politically—but often through toppling elected state governments using defectors, backdoor entries, and inducements. This is not a sign of democratic strength but institutional erosion. BJP’s use of ED, CBI, and IT departments to intimidate opposition leaders and media houses cannot be seen as good governance—it’s a mark of authoritarian consolidation. This fear-driven political culture, where parties are pressured to align with BJP or risk annihilation, is harmful to democracy. It sends the message that opposition is criminal by default, and dissent will be punished—not debated. This weakens federalism and the spirit of democratic pluralism. Ideological Fulfillment vs. Social Consequences The note lauds the removal of Article 370, the construction of the Ram Mandir, and the CAA. While these fulfill BJP’s ideological goals, they’ve come at the cost of social cohesion and constitutional values. Kashmir remains politically silenced and deeply alienated. CAA has been widely criticized for being discriminatory and polarizing, leading to widespread protests and unrest. These steps, while celebrated by BJP’s base, are deeply divisive and exclusionary. Crony Capitalism & Modi-Adani-Ambani Nexus This is perhaps the most concerning trend: the economic favoritism toward a few corporate houses. Whether it’s the Sri Lanka port deal allegedly pushed for Adani, or Jio’s meteoric rise aided by policy shifts, the government’s closeness with select business groups raises red flags. The economy is increasingly skewed, MSMEs are suffering, unemployment remains high, and the gap between rich and poor has widened significantly. Conclusion While BJP under Modi-Shah has created a powerful electoral machine, it has done so often by compromising institutions, curbing dissent, centralizing power, and fostering fear—not consensus. It’s misleading to paint this political domination as purely a result of good governance. Much of it has been enabled through media control, misuse of investigative agencies, and narrative manipulation. The real strength of a democracy lies in vibrant opposition, independent institutions, and respect for dissent—all of which are currently under threat. Thus, instead of accepting the narrative that BJP is here to stay for 10–15 years, we must ask: at what cost? Longevity in power should not come at the expense of democratic principles, economic equity, and social harmony. this is all propganda ofcourse , internal security improved pulawama is one off case that too on not on civilians remember upa era, terrorist attacks, bomb blasts once every 3,4 months 1 Quote
Mancode Posted April 6 Author Report Posted April 6 7 minutes ago, adavilo_baatasaari said: Pros: It is not Congress Cons: It is still BJP. Modi though is much needed leader in the current scenario. best point 1 Quote
Jobsforeveryone Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 22 minutes ago, adavilo_baatasaari said: Pros: It is not Congress Cons: It is still BJP. Modi though is much needed leader in the current scenario. Much needed for what reason bro? 1) For making Indian debt 165 lakh crores from 54 lakh in just 11 years? 2) For ignoring the creation of employment thereby wasting the youth energy of the nation? 3) By letting China occupy our land? 4) By letting his BJP karyakarthas lynch the minorities in the name of cow vigilante groups and by encouraging religious bigotry? 5) By not building a single irrigation project or linking the rivers? 6) By not doubling the farmers income ? Give me one reason why Modi should be the PM still after india not at all in a competitive position to deal with China, forget about western countries. Quote
adavilo_baatasaari Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 8 minutes ago, Jobsforeveryone said: Give me one reason why Modi should be the PM Because he is not Rahul Gandhi, MK Stalin, KCR, Akhilesh. Unfortunately, opposition is yet to come up with a strong leader who they are gonna pitch against Modi and for a start that will be good for the country too.. Not the Bozos above. 1 Quote
Mancode Posted April 6 Author Report Posted April 6 9 minutes ago, Jobsforeveryone said: Much needed for what reason bro? 1) For making Indian debt 165 lakh crores from 54 lakh in just 11 years? 2) For ignoring the creation of employment thereby wasting the youth energy of the nation? 3) By letting China occupy our land? 4) By letting his BJP karyakarthas lynch the minorities in the name of cow vigilante groups and by encouraging religious bigotry? 5) By not building a single irrigation project or linking the rivers? 6) By not doubling the farmers income ? Give me one reason why Modi should be the PM still after india not at all in a competitive position to deal with China, forget about western countries. forget about governance for a minute modi is alpha male , people like the way he walks , powerful speeches, mannerisms on world stage, friendliness as pshycology point of view modi, putin , trump are alpha males , seen in this generation , where world is full jaako men made weak by feminism and metoo 1 Quote
Mancode Posted April 6 Author Report Posted April 6 @Flush @Jobsforeveryone see this balochistan speech, manmohan and other pms before dont even want to acknowledge the balochistan movement before people across sub continent knows modi is the one who can make deal with , he is a doer Quote
Raisins_72 Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Flush said: While your note praises the BJP and its leadership under Narendra Modi and Amit Shah, it’s essential to analyze these claims with a critical lens. It’s true that the party has significantly expanded its footprint across India, but the means and consequences of this growth deserve deeper scrutiny. Internal Security & Terrorism The assertion that there have been no terror attacks under the Modi government is misleading. Incidents such as the Pulwama attack in 2019, which claimed the lives of 40 CRPF personnel, occurred under this regime. Moreover, the claim of top-notch internal security ignores rising communal tensions, mob lynchings, and targeted violence—especially against minorities—which have intensified in recent years. These are also forms of internal insecurity. Infrastructure Push Yes, infrastructure projects have progressed—highways, railways, and airports—but this is not a unique achievement. Every government has invested in infrastructure. The question is at what cost and with what intent. Much of the infrastructure push appears heavily centralized and politicized, often used for image-building rather than empowering states or addressing local needs. Furthermore, many tenders are allegedly skewed toward a few large corporates, like Adani and Ambani, raising concerns of crony capitalism and monopolization of strategic assets like ports, airports, and power infrastructure. The dismantling of BSNL to boost private telecom players like Jio is a prime example of state-enabled private expansion at public expense. Welfare Schemes & Corruption While schemes like DBT, Ayushman Bharat, and PM Awas Yojana are operational, their efficacy and implementation vary. Ground reports reveal exclusion errors, fake beneficiaries, bureaucratic hurdles, and insufficient funding. Swachh Bharat has improved sanitation metrics, but it’s also been criticized for being more about optics (photo-ops with brooms) than sustained behavior change or sewage infrastructure. The claim of “no corruption” is highly questionable. There have been scandals, especially involving electoral bonds, opaque funding to political parties, favoritism in contracts, and unexplained wealth accumulation of certain business allies. The absence of visible corruption doesn’t imply clean governance—it may point to control over investigative agencies and media silence. Undemocratic Political Expansion Yes, BJP has grown politically—but often through toppling elected state governments using defectors, backdoor entries, and inducements. This is not a sign of democratic strength but institutional erosion. BJP’s use of ED, CBI, and IT departments to intimidate opposition leaders and media houses cannot be seen as good governance—it’s a mark of authoritarian consolidation. This fear-driven political culture, where parties are pressured to align with BJP or risk annihilation, is harmful to democracy. It sends the message that opposition is criminal by default, and dissent will be punished—not debated. This weakens federalism and the spirit of democratic pluralism. Ideological Fulfillment vs. Social Consequences The note lauds the removal of Article 370, the construction of the Ram Mandir, and the CAA. While these fulfill BJP’s ideological goals, they’ve come at the cost of social cohesion and constitutional values. Kashmir remains politically silenced and deeply alienated. CAA has been widely criticized for being discriminatory and polarizing, leading to widespread protests and unrest. These steps, while celebrated by BJP’s base, are deeply divisive and exclusionary. Crony Capitalism & Modi-Adani-Ambani Nexus This is perhaps the most concerning trend: the economic favoritism toward a few corporate houses. Whether it’s the Sri Lanka port deal allegedly pushed for Adani, or Jio’s meteoric rise aided by policy shifts, the government’s closeness with select business groups raises red flags. The economy is increasingly skewed, MSMEs are suffering, unemployment remains high, and the gap between rich and poor has widened significantly. Conclusion While BJP under Modi-Shah has created a powerful electoral machine, it has done so often by compromising institutions, curbing dissent, centralizing power, and fostering fear—not consensus. It’s misleading to paint this political domination as purely a result of good governance. Much of it has been enabled through media control, misuse of investigative agencies, and narrative manipulation. The real strength of a democracy lies in vibrant opposition, independent institutions, and respect for dissent—all of which are currently under threat. Thus, instead of accepting the narrative that BJP is here to stay for 10–15 years, we must ask: at what cost? Longevity in power should not come at the expense of democratic principles, economic equity, and social harmony. For every “YES” (which is a brownie point to BJP), there is a BUT point ! for every negative point, there is no BUtT point at all !! That itself tells the article’s yedupu 😃😃 1 Quote
dasari4kntr Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 5 hours ago, Mancode said: pros : thro amit shah and modi , bjp grown leaps , all over india, internal security is top notch no terror attacks, infra in india moved rapidly ,roads & bridges, rail lines , new trains , flyovers etc etc probably the best in south asia , no corruption in delivering welfare schemes, DBT schemes, Pm avas yojana, ayushmaan bharat (health scheme) , skill development & entreprenship programs , swatchh bharat and also as a party bjp improved they are forming governments by hook or crook by getting support of mlas amit shah knows how to take care of media and corrupt regional parties and make them dance to his tunes via ED,CBI,IT etc , BJP ideology spread everywherre founders shyama prasada mukherjee & stalwarts lk advani's wishes fulfilled like article 370removal, CAA, ram mandir , etc etc now it is clear in indian politics if you want to be inpolitics , message is clear join bjp , or make an alliance and or stay neutral but dont join opposition alliance otherwise regional parties get messed up badly by exposing their corruption , nepotism ,other weaknesses india's stature grown at world stage grown very much cons : crony capitalism is at peaks modi as pm asked srilankan pm to give a contract to adani, which is scary adani taking over ports and aiports by blackmailing other businessmen that ED /CBI will raid for ambani modi squeezed Bsnl ,and changed TRAI rules from time to time, to benefit him modi will complete this term still i would rate modi sarkaar as 3.5/5 , bjp is here to stay for another 10-15 years at centre ..and like prashant kishor said modi/shah combine made bjp as strong force, they will strong party with 150-200-250 mp seats in centre in power or opposition for another 30 yrs @appusri @Teluguredu చాలా సౌకర్యంగా …cons …లో ఒక్క crony capitalism తప్ప ఏమీ లేదు అని జడ్జిమెంట్ ఇచ్చేసావుగా… వ్రాస్తే…పెద్ద లిష్ట్ అవ్వుద్ది…నాకంత ఓపిక లేదు…కానీ ఈ లింకు లో ఎవడో నా లిష్ట్ల్ లో 20% కవర్ చేసాడు…చూడు… https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEWzwtbx911/?igsh=MWRyc3Q5b2V3NXFkYg== Quote
7691 Posted April 7 Report Posted April 7 Pros: they helped me become cm twice cons: they conspired with jagan, did evm tampering and defeated me in 2019 Quote
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