ErraBook_monagadu Posted May 19 Author Report Posted May 19 TPS ended by scotus today 8-1 majority Inka birthright 6-3 confirm Quote
ManOffSteel Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 It looks like the conservative majority supreme court is siding with Trump government in most of the decisions. At this pace birth right citizenship will be gone mostly. The question is how they will implement it, like going forward?? because it will be a mess if they try to go backward and apply it to all the people born retroactively. like how far can they go? it will throw the whole country into disarray..I think mostly they will chose to apply it going forward to avoid the confusion.. Quote
futureofandhra Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 8 minutes ago, ManOffSteel said: It looks like the conservative majority supreme court is siding with Trump government in most of the decisions. At this pace birth right citizenship will be gone mostly. The question is how they will implement it, like going forward?? because it will be a mess if they try to go backward and apply it to all the people born retroactively. like how far can they go? it will throw the whole country into disarray..I think mostly they will chose to apply it going forward to avoid the confusion.. it will be big if they remove birth rightcitizenship Quote
ManOffSteel Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 9 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: it will be big if they remove birth rightcitizenship It’s big until it’s not remember roe vs wade, no one thought it could be touched until it was overturned easily Quote
futureofandhra Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 4 minutes ago, ManOffSteel said: It’s big until it’s not remember roe vs wade, no one thought it could be touched until it was overturned easily its not part of constitution but birth right is Quote
DonnyStrumpet Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 39 minutes ago, ManOffSteel said: It looks like the conservative majority supreme court is siding with Trump government in most of the decisions. At this pace birth right citizenship will be gone mostly. The question is how they will implement it, like going forward?? because it will be a mess if they try to go backward and apply it to all the people born retroactively. like how far can they go? it will throw the whole country into disarray..I think mostly they will chose to apply it going forward to avoid the confusion.. Impossible. It’s not going to happen. They can’t repeal birth right citizenship. The constitution must be amended. They can probably exclude illegal aliens. Because they are technically not under the jurisdiction because there is no proof about their existence in this country. That is the best case scenario for T thatha. Even this is far fetched. Let’s see Quote
baabaa Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 9 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Impossible. It’s not going to happen. They can’t repeal birth right citizenship. The constitution must be amended. They can probably exclude illegal aliens. Because they are technically not under the jurisdiction because there is no proof about their existence in this country. That is the best case scenario for T thatha. Even this is far fetched. Let’s see The entire legal battle will be on this one line "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". 1 Quote
DonnyStrumpet Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 10 minutes ago, baabaa said: The entire legal battle will be on this one line "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof". Yes!!!! Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 4 hours ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Impossible. It’s not going to happen. They can’t repeal birth right citizenship. The constitution must be amended. They can probably exclude illegal aliens. Because they are technically not under the jurisdiction because there is no proof about their existence in this country. That is the best case scenario for T thatha. Even this is far fetched. Let’s see No, there is no need for constitutional Amendment. That's a wrong notion perpetuated. "Birth right" is a SCOTUS interpretation given by Just Gray, in Ark Wong Kim case. SCOTUS can simply change interpretation. You will likely see a UK type of scene where citizenship is given based on parental status. Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 41 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: its not part of constitution but birth right is Nope birth right is NOT. It's Just. Gray's interpretation. Quote
ManOffSteel Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 53 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Impossible. It’s not going to happen. They can’t repeal birth right citizenship. The constitution must be amended. They can probably exclude illegal aliens. Because they are technically not under the jurisdiction because there is no proof about their existence in this country. That is the best case scenario for T thatha. Even this is far fetched. Let’s see They don’t need a constitutional amendment. It’s a matter of interpretation. It will be gone soon, wait and watch.. Supreme Court seems to be siding with Trump as he has three of his appointees on the Supreme Court. At best it will be a 6-3 or 5-4 judgement supporting Trump’s administration. If people like us are familiar with how the Chinese and a lot of people are abusing birth right citizenship, don’t you think the judges will know. They must have already started reading and preparing for the judgement because they know that it will eventually come to them. Even the most liberal media houses and parties are preparing for the idea of birth right citizenship being stuck down. Going forward, birth right citizenship will be based on legal status like at least one of the parents have to be a green card holder or US citizen. Quote
futureofandhra Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 37 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said: Nope birth right is NOT. It's Just. Gray's interpretation. You can interpret anyways Just saying it's part of constitution Jurisdiction word gc ki ela apply avuthadhi if temporary visa ki apply kanpudu Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 32 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: You can interpret anyways Just saying it's part of constitution Jurisdiction word gc ki ela apply avuthadhi if temporary visa ki apply kanpudu NO it's NOT. Adhe chepthunna nenu. 14 va savarana lo US lo puttina prathi vallaki pourasathvam ivvali ani default ga ledhu. "Subject to jurisdiction thereof" ane caveat undhi. Justice Gray, Ark Wong Kim case lo ichina teerupu lo aa caveat ki " ala vachela nirvachanam" ichadu. Rajyangam lo (14 va savarana) lo "as is" ga alaga ledhu. Niravachanam, vyakthulani batti, samayanni batti, avasaranni batti marutha untadhi. Which is why I said it's NOT part of constitution and doesn't require an amendment.Hope you got my point. Supreme Court ippudu binnamaina nirvachanam istha Trump tho side avuddha ledha anedhi vere vishyam. Quote
Variety_Pullayya Posted May 19 Report Posted May 19 2 hours ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Impossible. It’s not going to happen. They can’t repeal birth right citizenship. The constitution must be amended. They can probably exclude illegal aliens. Because they are technically not under the jurisdiction because there is no proof about their existence in this country. That is the best case scenario for T thatha. Even this is far fetched. Let’s see as above poster said...they dont need to amend it. just rule that the interpretation meant it is only for legal residents. Quote
futureofandhra Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 3 hours ago, Variety_Pullayya said: as above poster said...they dont need to amend it. just rule that the interpretation meant it is only for legal residents. thatha saying only gc n citizen Quote
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