Iaf is weakend by whom

[rad9]

2 hours ago, Sam480 said:

https://www.reuters.com/world/pakistans-chinese-made-jet-brought-down-two-indian-fighter-aircraft-us-officials-2025-05-08/

Pakistan's Chinese-made jet brought down two Indian fighter aircraft, US officials say

Some "anonymous" person said this? Why should it be anonymous? And what is their proof? This is just propaganda by Pakistan-based reporters. Reuters is no better than CNN, which was also overrun by Pakistan-based reporters or reporters sympathetic to Pak. I don't understand why they never hire neutral reporters.

I'm not saying with certainty that India did not lose any jets...we just don't know at this point. Maybe, this information will come out later. But articles like this are pure propaganda. 

[rad9]

7 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Even rafale is manufactured by Dassault and will have French words.

Yes. That is why we don't know at this point if it is the Indian Rafale or the Pakistani Mirage. We need more proof that it is Rafale.

[futureofandhra]

1 minute ago, rad9 said:

Some "anonymous" person said this? Why should it be anonymous? And what is their proof? This is just propaganda by Pakistan-based reporters. Reuters is no better than CNN, which was also overrun by Pakistan-based reporters or reporters sympathetic to Pak. I don't understand why they never hire neutral reporters.

I'm not saying with certainty that India did not lose any jets...we just don't know at this point. Maybe, this information will come out later. But articles like this are pure propaganda. 

I didn't not come to conclusion based on foreign journalists reports 

Look at Indian press conference 

In combat India lost fighter jets that's what they mentioned 

[rad9]

3 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

I didn't not come to conclusion based on foreign journalists reports 

Look at Indian press conference 

In combat India lost fighter jets that's what they mentioned 

Agree, but how do they know that Chinese jets shot down Rafale? We cannot be certain what India lost. And if it is an unbiased article, shouldn't it also mention that India showed the wreckage of the Pakistani Mirage that was shot down? Instead, it mentioned the unverified claims of Pak defense minister that 5 Indian jets were shot down. 

Operation Sindoor: Indian Army shows wreckage of Pakistani Mirage jet, captions X post as guardian of skies - India Today

Did Pakistan shoot down three Indian Rafale jets in Kashmir clashes?

I'm not saying that India definitely did not lose any jets. This information, along with additional evidence, will eventually be revealed. But these sound like propaganda articles whenever they quote "anonymous" experts. 

[Sam480]

27 minutes ago, rad9 said:

Some "anonymous" person said this? Why should it be anonymous? And what is their proof? This is just propaganda by Pakistan-based reporters. Reuters is no better than CNN, which was also overrun by Pakistan-based reporters or reporters sympathetic to Pak. I don't understand why they never hire neutral reporters.

I'm not saying with certainty that India did not lose any jets...we just don't know at this point. Maybe, this information will come out later. But articles like this are pure propaganda. 

I'm not believing because Reuters said it, I believe it because Indian army mentioned in press conference

I certainly think rafale is one of them. because the reporter specially asked if rafale or any other figher jet was lost and the army official said in combat we loose some. If we dint loose rafale he would have definitely mentioned that 

[Sam480]

46 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

I didn't not come to conclusion based on foreign journalists reports 

Look at Indian press conference 

In combat India lost fighter jets that's what they mentioned 

https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250512-india-pakistan-conflict-rafale-fighter-jets-shot-down-images-debunked

[11_MohanReddy]

8 minutes ago, Sam480 said:

https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20250512-india-pakistan-conflict-rafale-fighter-jets-shot-down-images-debunked

Conclusion enti ayite

[11_MohanReddy]

My guess is Indian jets may have fallen down, may or may not be from Pakistan strike

[Sam480]

5 minutes ago, 11_MohanReddy said:

Conclusion enti ayite

Another video and a photograph circulating on social media, “if indeed confirmed", would more definitively show the debris of a Rafale aircraft, Tytelman said. The video reportedly shows the remains of an M88 jet engine – identifiable by its flaps and rivets – which powers the Rafale.

The video was allegedly filmed near the village of Akalia Khurd, where an explosion following the crash of an unidentified plane killed one civilian and injured nine others, according to a local Indian media outlet.