5th generationnnn air craftss

[DonnyStrumpet]

Total 5th gen air crafts: 

• USA has 1150 
• China has 200 
• Russia has 20
• India 0 
• Pakistan 0 

 

So, Pakistan will get around 25 fifth generation aircraft’s delivered in 2027. Chinese mfs will be delivering this. 
Also Turkey is developing one called KAAN. It will be ready by 2030. Turkey will probably deploy this on behalf of pakis. 

India will not have a fifth generation until 2030 at the earliest. We never placed a single order so far. WTF!!!

My question is. What will we do from 2027 to 2030 if there is a full blown war? They can play football with us after 2027.
 

Our Rafaels are 4.5. There are already reports that Rafaels are potentially vulnerable. Again it’s subject to debate. But Stock market doesn’t lie. Rafael stock has been going down. It lost around 10% in 5 days. It’s not a coincidence by any means. Is it? 

[DonnyStrumpet]

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[Variety_Pullayya]

5 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said:

Total 5th gen air crafts: 

• USA has 1150 air crafts
• China has 200 
• India 0 
• Pakistan 0 

 

So, Pakistan will get around 25 fifth generation aircraft’s delivered in 2027. India will not have a fifth generation until 2030.  

My question is. What will we do from 2027 to 2030 if there is a full blown war? They can play football with us after 2027.
 

Our Rafaels are 4.5. There are already reports that they are potentially vulnerable. Again it’s subject to debate. But Stock market doesn’t lie. Rafael stock has been going down. It lost around 10% in 5 days. It’s not a coincidence by any means. Is it? 

we will go and steal theirs and bring it back

[DonnyStrumpet]

11 minutes ago, Variety_Pullayya said:

we will go and steal theirs and bring it back

Looks like we didn’t invest in defense in a proper way uncle. Nobody thinks about all these logistics until there is a war. Now it’s all blurred. 

[jobkastalu]

Edo plan undi untundi. BJP ye emi peekalapothe inka congress vasthe no hopes.

[DonnyStrumpet]

Just now, jobkastalu said:

Edo plan undi untundi. BJP ye emi peekalapothe inka congress vasthe no hopes.

They are trying to develop an India made AMCA by 2028. But since it’s first of its kind not sure if we will be able to compete with Chinese fifth gen tech. Very bad foresight. On the other hand, USA and China are already working on 6th Generation. It will be ready by 2030. By the time we have hands on 5th, chinkies will be supplying 6th gen to pakis. 
 

[enigmatic]

5th generation planes are expensive. Mana desam budget ki vachevi kontaru. Not everyone has unlimited budget like usa 

[jobkastalu]

2 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said:

They are trying to develop an India made AMCA by 2028. But since it’s first of its kind not sure if we will be able to compete with Chinese fifth gen tech. Very bad foresight. On the other hand, USA and China are already working on 6th Generation. It will be ready by 2030. By the time we have hands on 5th, chinkies will be supplying 6th gen to pakis. 
 

2035 target induction and we are planning to use American made engines. It’s a high time we need to seriously take steps to develop our own engine after Kaveri failure. Dhenemma intelligent ppl ni infuse cheyandi r projects lo ki.

[DonnyStrumpet]

3 minutes ago, enigmatic said:

5th generation planes are expensive. Mana desam budget ki vachevi kontaru. Not everyone has unlimited budget like usa 

Pakistan beggars can afford and we can’t? How is that possible. We can’t let them outsmart us in warfare. It will be a perfect recipe for disaster. 

[DonnyStrumpet]

2 minutes ago, jobkastalu said:

2035 target induction and we are planning to use American made engines. It’s a high time we need to seriously take steps to develop our own engine after Kaveri failure. Dhenemma intelligent ppl ni infuse cheyandi r projects lo ki.

USA and Russia has consistently drained our defense experts in the last 5 decades. We are witnessing the ramifications of brain drain now. 

[enigmatic]

Avevo chinese vallu free sample kinda istunnaremo for testing. Pakistan wont be able to afford too many unless china is willing to subsidize it which it may . While it would be ideal if we make our own, i dont think our HAL or govt. Owned defense orgs are that capable. 

[DonnyStrumpet]

1 minute ago, enigmatic said:

Avevo chinese vallu free sample kinda istunnaremo for testing. Pakistan wont be able to afford too many unless china is willing to subsidize it which it may 

Whole thurak world will fund them if needed. Never underestimate the power of unison in mullahs. 

[Android_Halwa]

Fifth Gen kadu vayya manaki kavalsindi….its hypersonic tech.

US/Russia/China…their needs are different and stealth fifth gen makes sense for them.

For Indian needs, we need hypersonic missiles, mid range cruise missiles and air defense shields.

 

[DonnyStrumpet]

1 minute ago, Android_Halwa said:

Fifth Gen kadu vayya manaki kavalsindi….its hypersonic tech.

US/Russia/China…their needs are different and stealth fifth gen makes sense for them.

For Indian needs, we need hypersonic missiles, mid range cruise missiles and air defense shields.

 

Do we have hypersonic missles already? Please don’t tell me we are in process of developing them too. India is naked in the streets. If this is true. Holy Molly. 

[Android_Halwa]

The biggest threat is from Pak and look at their geography…55k feet ceiling height tho descent ayyelopu pakistan country daatipotam…
 

Indian needs are completely different and we do not REALLY need fifth gen right away but hypersonic tech is what we need..

Stealth is big factor but trust me, in a few years there will be anti stealth tech and these fifth gen birds will be visible on the radar…

Investing in stealth is like investing in past…Improving hypersonic and scramjets and anti drone tech is the future.