Android_Halwa Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 18 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Caste census is nonsense. I agree. Non sense ? Not at all, this is the right sense. The core binding reason for majority society in India is caste and how can we ignore such a string binding ? Caste census is very important and even if reservations are based on the caste %, I will welcome the move. Although significance of reservations is not what it used to be but this is the time to correct some mistakes. Quote
11_MohanReddy Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 23 minutes ago, futureofandhra said: DO U SUPPORT UNIFORM CIVIL CODE? I don't understand how anyone can be secular and not support UCC @dasari4kntr 1 Quote
CanadianMalodu Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 21 hours ago, DonnyStrumpet said: How is India removing secularism? Triple talaq is a religious custom. It is not a law. Just like dowry system, it needs to be condemned. Endowments for Hindu temples are based on donations of devotees. Waqf board acquired lands using coercion during Nizam and other Muslim rulers. Caste census is nonsense. I agree. But Modi is a drama artist. He is probably gonna do something theatrical. It’s no surprise. I think you have a preconceived assumption that secularism indicates broad mindedness. On contrary you believe Islam hatred is due to bigotry. Trust me you are wrong. I have been to Europe. I have been to many other countries. Mullahs are the scum. They bring their own customs wherever they go. They never learn local culture. On top of it, their holy scripture tells them to kill poeople. You can’t find such crap in bible or bhagavadgeeta. This is largely West's own doing at the behest of Anglo Zionist overlords. It's Anglo Zionists that made West fight needless wars in Middle East destabilizing the entire regions, plus Afghanistan, take away their resources through contracting them out to American Corps and brought the problems to Western societies. Terrible incompatible idea. The whole plan was create a more balkanized society in the West to metanorphose the society into an Orwelian dystopia. Quote
godfather03 Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 29 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: i am about to sleep…. but few points… we are staying in secular country such as us or uk and commenting on secularism … what will happen if we remove secularism in india..? and what happened to Pakistan, bangladesh or israel after removing the secularism…? should india follows the same path..? i feel some maturity is needed to understand secularism…. rajiv gandhi ఏదో తప్పు చేసాడు …i get it…కానీ entire secularism తప్పు అనడం…అవివేకం…ఆ మాట కొస్తే bjp కూడా అదే చేస్తుంది ఇప్పుడు…with caste censes… triple talaq…waqf అనే…bjp…hindus కోసం …దేవాదాయ చట్టం సవరించగలదా..? you ask me how caste censes are related to secularism….wait for it..its a beyond secularism …its socialistic… The data collected through a caste census can be used to design targeted welfare schemes, update reservation quotas, and address inequalities in access to resources and opportunitie Quote
Android_Halwa Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 1 minute ago, 11_MohanReddy said: I don't understand how anyone can be secular and not support UCC @dasari4kntr Socialists…that’s how they are. Brainwashed by the propaganda… 1 Quote
DonnyStrumpet Posted May 16 Author Report Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, godfather03 said: The data collected through a caste census can be used to design targeted welfare schemes, update reservation quotas, and address inequalities in access to resources and opportunitie Isnt this typical vote bank politics? Targeting specific demographics. Why can’t we devise schemes that are based on economical status. Rather than caste. Quote
DonnyStrumpet Posted May 16 Author Report Posted May 16 9 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said: Non sense ? Not at all, this is the right sense. The core binding reason for majority society in India is caste and how can we ignore such a string binding ? Caste census is very important and even if reservations are based on the caste %, I will welcome the move. Although significance of reservations is not what it used to be but this is the time to correct some mistakes. Disagreed. We cry foul when Rahul wants reservations in private sector. How is this any different? It’s polarizing to say the least. Modi supports are very partisan these days. It’s a shame Quote
godfather03 Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 1 minute ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Isnt this typical vote bank politics? Targeting specific demographics. Why can’t we devise schemes that are based on economical status. Rather than caste. Indirect ga ade chestharu…if any of the caste group are more or less in population their reservation quota may get updated..plus all converted christians may lose their SC caste, if they be honest to the census… Quote
Android_Halwa Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 20 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Disagreed. We cry foul when Rahul wants reservations in private sector. How is this any different? It’s polarizing to say the least. Modi supports are very partisan these days. It’s a shame Reservation in private sector, reservations, caste census are three different subjects and not to be clubbed. You may give it any name, polarizing or divisive but end of the day, its the powerful factor not to be ignored. Quote
Raisins_72 Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 23 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Disagreed. We cry foul when Rahul wants reservations in private sector. How is this any different? It’s polarizing to say the least. Modi supports are very partisan these days. It’s a shame When education & jobs itself are reservation based, what’s wrong in collecting the data ? reservations in Private Sector is boothu, pachi boothu. Repoddhuna manam sampaadhinchey aasthilo kuda reservation aduguthaadu, ok na ? Quote
Android_Halwa Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 32 minutes ago, DonnyStrumpet said: Isnt this typical vote bank politics? Targeting specific demographics. Why can’t we devise schemes that are based on economical status. Rather than caste. So what’s wrong with the vote bank politics ? Our society is based on caste hierarchy and even after brainwashing for seventy years that caste is bad, it is still majority binding favor in the community. Economic status should be considered as well as caste demographics. Quote
dasari4kntr Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 21 hours ago, godfather03 said: The data collected through a caste census can be used to design targeted welfare schemes, update reservation quotas, and address inequalities in access to resources and opportunitie i know…but the data can be used for elections also…we can discuss more if that caste censes happens transparently…. bjp was reluctant for caste censes before …but all of sudden and that too after one week from terrorist attack…they announced this first… Quote
dasari4kntr Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 21 hours ago, 11_MohanReddy said: I don't understand how anyone can be secular and not support UCC @dasari4kntr does your UCC applies to ST also…? just asking Quote
Spartan Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 46 minutes ago, dasari4kntr said: does your UCC applies to ST also…? just asking Uniform Civil Code (UCC) is a legal framework though it is not enforceable by law. It is a set of uniform laws regarding various matters like inheritance, marriage, adoption, succession, and divorce applicable to all citizens irrespective of their religion, community, race, sex and caste. its for all citizens, if he is SC or ST doesnt matter Quote
dasari4kntr Posted May 17 Report Posted May 17 1 minute ago, Spartan said: Uniform Civil Code (UCC) is a legal framework though it is not enforceable by law. It is a set of uniform laws regarding various matters like inheritance, marriage, adoption, succession, and divorce applicable to all citizens irrespective of their religion, community, race, sex and caste. its for all citizens, if he is SC or ST doesnt matter …so ST tribes also falls under this UCC..? ఇది అయినట్టే… Quote
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