Teluguredu Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 54 minutes ago, Thokkalee said: 5000 years aa.. 😮😮😮 how can they even prove it?  Linguists have techniques for that. Quote
akkum_bakkum Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, Naaperushiva said: Tulu baa ante adi vaduka lo vunda...neninka once upon a time long long ago language anukunna  Quote
Teluguredu Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 Proto-dravidian is not tamil but at that point vedic sanskrit is different from classical Sanskrit too. Quote
Naaperushiva Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 1 minute ago, akkum_bakkum said: ante adi vaduka lo vunda...neninka once upon a time long long ago language anukunna  yes baa 2+ million still use 1 Quote
akkum_bakkum Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 3 minutes ago, Naaperushiva said: yes baa 2+ million still use Mana kriti shetty ki kuda vachantava? Quote
Konebhar6 Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Sam480 said:  Oldest - Sign language. 😂😂 Quote
Naaperushiva Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 5 minutes ago, akkum_bakkum said: Mana kriti shetty ki kuda vachantava? mostly vacche vuntadhi baa thanaki anushka shetty ki asiwarya rai pooja hedge inka chaala mandhe vunnaru esply heroines Quote
Teluguredu Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 Malyalam split from tamil recently. Also it's very difficult to pin point exact time of language splits , researchers use phylogenetics for that ,simple explanation they take shared vocabulary between 2 languages ,they use something called word replacement rate which is the rate at which language split from mother language replaces vocabulary from mother language and try to see how long it took for the child language to reach the current difference from its mother language. Quote
pichhipullayya Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Teluguredu said: Proto-dravidian is not tamil but at that point vedic sanskrit is different from classical Sanskrit too. Â 20 minutes ago, Teluguredu said: Malyalam split from tamil recently. Also it's very difficult to pin point exact time of language splits , researchers use phylogenetics for that ,simple explanation they take shared vocabulary between 2 languages ,they use something called word replacement rate which is the rate at which language split from mother language replaces vocabulary from mother language and try to see how long it took for the child language to reach the current difference from its mother language. Quote
adavilo_baatasaari Posted June 19 Report Posted June 19 Linguistically Telugu is much older than Tamil. First major language that still exists to deviate from the Main branch. But Tamil Politicians have worked around it and influenced many generations by saying that they are the main branch and they are that language behind the Indus valley script. While it suits local politics, issues happen when they cross their borders.  Historic evidence wise Tamil language got lucky because Jainism unlike Hinduism and Buddhism prevalent then in Telugu lands , patronized local languages and Jain Tamil works from 3rd century BC "Tolikapiyam" survived. To show the value of Jain's role in preserving local languages, even Kannada's First work is a Jain work from a Telugu Jain poet named Pampa from 9th century AD. The same guy wrote Telugu Jain works too in 9th century which didn't survive except for few paragraphs. But 19th century Dravidian politics, gave new superiority and antiquity to their language .  1 Quote
Naaperushiva Posted June 19 Report Posted June 19 3 minutes ago, adavilo_baatasaari said: Linguistically Telugu is much older than Tamil. First major language that still exists to deviate from the Main branch. But Tamil Politicians have worked around it and influenced many generations by saying that they are the main branch and they are that language behind the Indus valley script. While it suits local politics, issues happen when they cross their borders.  Historic evidence wise Tamil language got lucky because Jainism unlike Hinduism and Buddhism prevalent then in Telugu lands , patronized local languages and Jain Tamil works from 3rd century BC "Tolikapiyam" survived. To show the value of Jain's role in preserving local languages, even Kannada's First work is a Jain work from a Telugu Jain poet named Pampa from 9th century AD. The same guy wrote Telugu Jain works too in 9th century which didn't survive except for few paragraphs. But 19th century Dravidian politics, gave new superiority and antiquity to their language .  Didnt get you jainism patronized local languages annav then telugu older annappudu telugu literatures vundaali gaa baa based on your above quote. Quote
11MohanRedddy Posted June 19 Report Posted June 19 9 hours ago, Thokkalee said: 5000 years aa.. 😮😮😮 how can they even prove it?   9 hours ago, nag said: it dates back Sanskrit.. deva baasha.. how come ? Proto-dravidian is the language they are claiming to be Tamil. Proto-dravidian is technically the origins of present day Telugu, Tamil and Kannada. The script of Proto-dravidian is similar to that of Tamil. If anything we can say Proto-dravidian is the mother of present day Tamil. Quote
11MohanRedddy Posted June 19 Report Posted June 19 7 minutes ago, Naaperushiva said: Didnt get you jainism patronized local languages annav then telugu older annappudu telugu literatures vundaali gaa baa based on your above quote. Scriptures come from religion. Lack of Scripture doesn't mean language didn't exist. Quote
Naaperushiva Posted June 19 Report Posted June 19 5 minutes ago, 11MohanRedddy said: Scriptures come from religion. Lack of Scripture doesn't mean language didn't exist. True baa. usually the more language develops or advanced from it's early forms (grammar development etc etc) the more possibilities of having literary works on it also inscriptions. Andhuke oldest known literary works or inscriptions base chesukoni entha old oo oka language ani measure chesthaaru. Quote
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