Fuel to Air India Plane Was Cut Off Before Crash, Report Says

[futureofandhra]

On 7/12/2025 at 8:46 PM, Pavanonline said:

Switches vatanthata ave move avvavu kada, highly doubt software can move the switch. Mechanical failure on both switches ante highly doubt (both are completely independent from other) it unless some maintenance work messed them up. But we don't know what point this conversation happened, did the pilot do it as part of troubleshoot or they moved by themselves. Need more info on the time stamps, when the switch was off and when the thrust loss started. 

Do you think switches toggle only manually?

 

[akkum_bakkum]

5 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

Do you think switches toggle only manually?

 

Fuel manual ga cut off chesade anukunte, junior pilot would have immediately turn them back and full throttle to regain control. There was no such effort or a conversation towards that end. Enduko ee boya gaade covering works chesthunnattu anipisthundi. Ninna lindsey graham gadu threatening tarriffs on India for doing business with Russia. Ee tarriff tactic tho bayatapadalane trying la vundi boya.....em haalath raa boya, anavasaranga douglass gallani dimpi neekunndi voodagottukunnav.

[futureofandhra]

11 minutes ago, akkum_bakkum said:

Fuel manual ga cut off chesade anukunte, junior pilot would have immediately turn them back and full throttle to regain control. There was no such effort or a conversation towards that end. Enduko ee boya gaade covering works chesthunnattu anipisthundi. Ninna lindsey graham gadu threatening tarriffs on India for doing business with Russia. Ee tarriff tactic tho bayatapadalane trying la vundi boya.....em haalath raa boya, anavasaranga douglass gallani dimpi neekunndi voodagottukunnav.

They compromised on quality for money 

Control systems are tough things 

So many variables exist 

In this case I think some sensors failed 

Black box India lo read cheyaleka verey chotiki poyindhi antey ney ardham chesukovali 

 

[Pavanonline]

1 hour ago, futureofandhra said:

Do you think switches toggle only manually?

 

I'm assuming, specially something as fuel switch, I'm not saying some failure/mechanism can't cut off fuel to engines but hard to imagine software written to physically move something important as fuel switch. In addition it's understandable if 1 switch went wrong, planes are designed to have independent systems for each engine. so both of them failing at same time points to manual intervention.

You can see below, one needs to lift it to off it.

 

[futureofandhra]

30 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

I'm assuming, specially something as fuel switch, I'm not saying some failure/mechanism can't cut off fuel to engines but hard to imagine software written to physically move something important as fuel switch. In addition it's understandable if 1 switch went wrong, planes are designed to have independent systems for each engine. so both of them failing at same time points to manual intervention.

You can see below, one needs to lift it to off it.

 

think beyond switch bro

control systems does not work that way

[Pavanonline]

5 hours ago, futureofandhra said:

think beyond switch bro

control systems does not work that way

That's what the transcript is saying right that pilot asked why fuel switches are off. What control systems are you talking about ? 

[futureofandhra]

18 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

That's what the transcript is saying right that pilot asked why fuel switches are off. What control systems are you talking about ? 

Do you think fuel can be turned off abruptly and the systems will allow it while flying

Blaming pilots is the easiest way right 

 

[Pavanonline]

1 minute ago, futureofandhra said:

Do you think fuel can be turned off abruptly and the systems will allow it while flying

Blaming pilots is the easiest way right 

 

Yes, fuel switches can be turned off, in fact it's a step in engine restart procedure or if there's a fire in the engine. Airplanes are built to be flown by pilots, not save the aircraft from pilots. Blind ga okati fix avvakunda logical ga alochisthe better.

[futureofandhra]

35 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

Yes, fuel switches can be turned off, in fact it's a step in engine restart procedure or if there's a fire in the engine. Airplanes are built to be flown by pilots, not save the aircraft from pilots. Blind ga okati fix avvakunda logical ga alochisthe better.

Fly ayina tharuvutha what's the necessity unless the scenarios you mentioned in this case fire ayithey manual ga turn off kooda avasaram ledhu 

Tell me one good reason why pilot needs to turn it off after take off 

Boeing software lo anomalies already occurred 

Am talking logically 

 

[Pavanonline]

33 minutes ago, futureofandhra said:

Fly ayina tharuvutha what's the necessity unless the scenarios you mentioned in this case fire ayithey manual ga turn off kooda avasaram ledhu 

Tell me one good reason why pilot needs to turn it off after take off 

Boeing software lo anomalies already occurred 

Am talking logically 

 

Pilot enduku chesado investigation lo telustadi, could be deliberate too. Switches off loki vellayanedi fact. Manual ga move cheyali anedi another fact. Software is not relevant if switches can't be moved by it. 

[Yuvasamudram]

32 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

Pilot enduku chesado investigation lo telustadi, could be deliberate too. Switches off loki vellayanedi fact. Manual ga move cheyali anedi another fact. Software is not relevant if switches can't be moved by it. 

It shouldn't be that easy.

Thokkalo naa 2000 dollar Honda ne >10miles unte reverse gear pani cheyadu. There has to be couple of steps atleast to ensure its intentional. For eg: form submit chesetappude are you sure ani pop up vasthadi. Another example is you you have to press and hold a button for 3 seconds in order to perform a non-nominal job on small machines.

[futureofandhra]

35 minutes ago, Pavanonline said:

Pilot enduku chesado investigation lo telustadi, could be deliberate too. Switches off loki vellayanedi fact. Manual ga move cheyali anedi another fact. Software is not relevant if switches can't be moved by it. 

So you are saying software can't control fuel cut off?

[Pavanonline]

3 hours ago, Yuvasamudram said:

It shouldn't be that easy.

Thokkalo naa 2000 dollar Honda ne >10miles unte reverse gear pani cheyadu. There has to be couple of steps atleast to ensure its intentional. For eg: form submit chesetappude are you sure ani pop up vasthadi. Another example is you you have to press and hold a button for 3 seconds in order to perform a non-nominal job on small machines.

Anna planes are designed to fly by pilots,  those switches are there for emergency purposes(life and death) and when plane halts. Alantappudu are you sure lantivi pettaru. I'm sure there will be some sort of indicator when it's turned to off but not a prohibition. And imagine in cockpit with dozens of important switches if they put those restrictions and pilot has to take control and react in seconds. The switches did have protection against accidental movement,  they need to be lifted up and moved from on position. 

[yslokesh]

On 7/12/2025 at 3:31 PM, 11MohanRedddy said:

All news media reporting it

That does not prove anything