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[Sinthakai]

27 minutes ago, rational said:

He is appointed as Advisor for students ethics and values by AP govt.  His role is to promote morals and ethics among students across the state. At least try to read one purana mentioned above, not the soft version that are published recently, go to the old versions. then we can discuss the samskara in puranas, i would say the same to Islam or Christianity or any other religion.  Please share the knowledge of astrology i would like to learn.

See, if he does this in any school, as an advisor, it is definitely wrong. Even if he dictates/imposes anything of this sort, that is wrong. About reading older versions of the puranas, no religion's older version scriptures were clean as per today's standards. Except for quran, every religious scripture has evolved. I really do not see a point in holding the older versions against today's standards. As far as the astrology goes, how did we know that there nine grahas in our solar system. It was mentioned in the vedas long before science has come up with a simple telescope.

[Sinthakai]

Just now, Sinthakai said:

See, if he does this in any school, as an advisor, it is definitely wrong. Even if he dictates/imposes anything of this sort, that is wrong. About reading older versions of the puranas, no religion's older version scriptures were clean as per today's standards. Except for quran, every religious scripture has evolved. I really do not see a point in holding the older versions against today's standards. As far as the astrology goes, how did we know that there nine grahas in our solar system. It was mentioned in the vedas long before science has come up with a simple telescope.

 

[rational]

8 minutes ago, Sinthakai said:

See, if he does this in any school, as an advisor, it is definitely wrong. Even if he dictates/imposes anything of this sort, that is wrong. About reading older versions of the puranas, no religion's older version scriptures were clean as per today's standards. Except for quran, every religious scripture has evolved. I really do not see a point in holding the older versions against today's standards. As far as the astrology goes, how did we know that there nine grahas in our solar system. It was mentioned in the vedas long before science has come up with a simple telescope.

Even if you see some of his motivational speeches he brings God into the picture. That's the reason it worries me.

Old versions are not clean what does that mean? Which puranas are you talking about? be specific which chapters you are talking about. Which slokas in vedas mention about navagrahas? 

[Sinthakai]

5 minutes ago, rational said:

Even if you see some of his motivational speeches he brings God into the picture. That's the reason it worries me.

Old versions are not clean what does that mean? Which puranas are you talking about? be specific which chapters you are talking about. Which slokas in vedas mention about navagrahas? 

Why does it bother you that he brings God into the picture? Is he making you listen to him, or is je imposing himself upon you? If you don't like him, you need not listen to him. 

I was talking about the "samskaara" or rather lack of, as implied by you in the older versions of the puranas. As far as reading goes, I believe I have read my fair share of theological literature and I don't consider myself as an ardent scholar. I get whatever good I can and if I couldn't, I will leave it at that.

[rational]

10 minutes ago, Sinthakai said:

Why does it bother you that he brings God into the picture? Is he making you listen to him, or is je imposing himself upon you? If you don't like him, you need not listen to him. 

I was talking about the "samskaara" or rather lack of, as implied by you in the older versions of the puranas. As far as reading goes, I believe I have read my fair share of theological literature and I don't consider myself as an ardent scholar. I get whatever good I can and if I couldn't, I will leave it at that.

I dont care if he brings God if people are above 18, but when it comes to kids with volatile minds they you should keep god away in school scenarios particularly govt funded educational institutions as per the constitution. And i have not seen his motivational speeches without mentioning God. 

Please mention which puranam you are talking about samskara?

you didnt give the verses that mention the 9 grahas in Vedas?Also the timeline when vedas are written?

[Sinthakai]

7 minutes ago, rational said:

I dont care if he brings God if people are above 18, but when it comes to kids with volatile minds they you should keep god away in school scenarios particularly govt funded educational institutions as per the constitution. And i have not seen his motivational speeches without mentioning God. 

Please mention which puranam you are talking about samskara?

you didnt give the verses that mention the 9 grahas in Vedas?Also the timeline when vedas are written?

Where are the kids being exposed to God? At what schools? He is not doing his thing at schools. What schools are you talking about?

[halwafan]

he promotes irrational ideologies & beliefs.. not a fan.. 

[rational]

38 minutes ago, Sinthakai said:

Where are the kids being exposed to God? At what schools? He is not doing his thing at schools. What schools are you talking about?

This is one of the motivational speech on personality devlopment in a private school. where he brings about GOD.

Mentions about ramayana in this above videos

Now govt has officially given an advisor post to him to give speeches to students. 

I am still waiting about the verse 9 grahas in vedas? and the time line of vedas? 

 

[Sinthakai]

56 minutes ago, rational said:

This is one of the motivational speech on personality devlopment in a private school. where he brings about GOD.

Mentions about ramayana in this above videos

Now govt has officially given an advisor post to him to give speeches to students. 

I am still waiting about the verse 9 grahas in vedas? and the time line of vedas? 

 

Are you joking? These are very old videos, the ones from a long time before he was made the advisor. That too in private schools, where he went upon being invited. You seem to have a problem with him personally. These are still private events, so are you concerned about what/how he speaks in private events before he was made an advisor? Why do you think he was invited by those PRIVATE schools in the first place? Ramayanam lo pidakala veta ante ide, you said he was doing these while being an advisor, which is really not the case. You could have found more of these videos had you googled his stuff a little more. Show me the proof where he is doing these, after he was made an advisor that are not PRIVATE events. We can then talk.

 

[rational]

14 minutes ago, Sinthakai said:

Are you joking? These are very old videos, the ones from a long time before he was made the advisor. That too in private schools, where he went upon being invited. You seem to have a problem with him personally. These are still private events, so are you concerned about what/how he speaks in private events before he was made an advisor? Why do you think he was invited by those PRIVATE schools in the first place? Ramayanam lo pidakala veta ante ide, you said he was doing these while being an advisor, which is really not the case. You could have found more of these videos had you googled his stuff a little more. Show me the proof where he is doing these, after he was made an advisor that are not PRIVATE events. We can then talk.

 

Yes these are old videos of private schools even i mentioned that. That's the knowledge he has and he connects everything to spirituality and GOD in all his speeches Now he became an advisor to teach students that's the problem i am mentioning about. ilanti vallani advisors gaa pettakoodadu anedhe naa point.

where is the navagraha verses of rig veda? kanipinchaledha ? asalu ledha? 

 

[Sinthakai]

1 minute ago, rational said:

Yes these are old videos of private schools even i mentioned that. That's the knowledge he has and he connects everything to spirituality and GOD in all his speeches Now he became an advisor to teach students that's the problem i am mentioning about. ilanti vallani advisors gaa pettakoodadu anedhe naa point.

where is the navagraha verses of rig veda? kanipinchaledha ? asalu ledha? 

 

Where did you mention them being old videos? You posted them as the videos. If he is not teaching hatred and negativity, there is nothing wrong with him being an advisor. Now, if he does these things in an official role as an advisor that is wrong. Show me the proof of that, as you were very concerned about.

Since you seem to be proficient at googling, google the vedas that mentioned the grahas, eclipses and movements yourself and find whatever you can.

[rational]

18 minutes ago, Sinthakai said:

Where did you mention them being old videos? You posted them as the videos. If he is not teaching hatred and negativity, there is nothing wrong with him being an advisor. Now, if he does these things in an official role as an advisor that is wrong. Show me the proof of that, as you were very concerned about.

Since you seem to be proficient at googling, google the vedas that mentioned the grahas, eclipses and movements yourself and find whatever you can.

Hmm! i was talking about his speech in private school that i mentioned , i also said "now govt has appointed him as adivsor" which gives an idea what i mean. Have u seen his videos about caste, how women should behave around husband, there are lot of videos like this you need see of him Teaching unscientific things through his speeches is my concern and mentioning holy texts like gita, ramayana which are filled with castes, women slavery etc. are not the benchmarks to be mentioned in motivational speeches, this goes to Quran and bible as well.

Vedas lo navagrahalu unnai ani nuvve annavu? if you strongly think that there are proofs why dont you post it here. i might get wrong link, lets  go with your version.

[Sinthakai]

1 minute ago, rational said:

Hmm! i was talking about his speech in private school that i mentioned , i also said "now govt has appointed him as adivsor" which gives an idea what i mean. Have u seen his videos about caste, how women should behave around husband, there are lot of videos like this you need see of him Teaching unscientific things through his speeches is my concern and mentioning holy texts like gita, ramayana which are filled with castes, women slavery etc. are not the benchmarks to be mentioned in motivational speeches, this goes to Quran and bible as well.

Vedas lo navagrahalu unnai ani nuvve annavu? if you strongly think that there are proofs why dont you post it here. i might get wrong link, lets  go with your version.

The entire discussion was about his "pravachanas" after he was made the advisor. My first point itself is that if he does these as an advisor, that is wrong. If him mentioning Ramayana and Gita which are filled with castes and women slavery, as advisor or not, my take would be we have evolved as hindus and don't subscribe to those ideologies and that they still teach a lot of good, in general. Your having an issue with some ideology that is clearly irrelevant doesn't invalidate them, as a vast majority still believes in the greater good those scriptures teach. Going back to the way he talks about certain things, again, if you don't like them, you can always move on. You are nitpicking what he is teaching and it is upto you on whether to take it or not.

You posted 6 year old videos and implied that misread your post, while I was clearly saying that he shouldn't do these as an advisor. Please post the proof and then we can discuss the navagrahas. Rigveda talks about surya and brihaspathi. Atharvana veda talks about the eclipses and the movements of the grahas. If you want the actual verses, please be my guest and google them 

 

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[rational]

18 minutes ago, Sinthakai said:

The entire discussion was about his "pravachanas" after he was made the advisor. My first point itself is that if he does these as an advisor, that is wrong. If him mentioning Ramayana and Gita which are filled with castes and women slavery, as advisor or not, my take would be we have evolved as hindus and don't subscribe to those ideologies and that they still teach a lot of good, in general. Your having an issue with some ideology that is clearly irrelevant doesn't invalidate them, as a vast majority still believes in the greater good those scriptures teach. Going back to the way he talks about certain things, again, if you don't like them, you can always move on. You are nitpicking what he is teaching and it is upto you on whether to take it or not.

You posted 6 year old videos and implied that misread your post, while I was clearly saying that he shouldn't do these as an advisor. Please post the proof and then we can discuss the navagrahas. Rigveda talks about surya and brihaspathi. Atharvana veda talks about the eclipses and the movements of the grahas. If you want the actual verses, please be my guest and google them 

 

If you see the pattern in speeches  most of them are religiously motivated, unscientific and illogical. Just see those videos where he mentions of GOD, religion, scriptures  to students as motivational speeches it gives a clear idea of this approach towards ethics mixing with religion, god and scriptures. Now he is officially appointed as students ethics and values advisor, its like give him more power to spread this unscientific, illogical concepts and i am concerned because its about the students. I am certain his approach wont change, because his concepts are not based on logic and reasoning, if he had he wont me mentioning about religion, GOD, scriptures in his previous motivational speeches. Thats all i would say. Since you want to videos about after his appointment i will post them when i find them.

Just because vast majority believes, that doesn't mean there is greater good in those scriptures, if we take that approach Christianity and Islam has more believers compared to Hinduism. Can we call Quran and Bible has greater good compared to Hindu scriptures. 

Vedas lo navagrahalu annavu, but you mentioned only surya  and brihaspati and some eclipses and movements of the grahas  if we take rahu u are talking about . which doesnt add up to the 9 grahas. even you google you wont find all the 9 grahas in vedas. BORI research center has the oldest rig veda, just search and see the linguistic analysis which give an idea of when it was written.