YS Jagan always believed in Vizag, now the world agrees

[idibezwada]

36 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

Computer annam pettadam endhi first time intunna lol.

nenu kuda...fish stalls aite baga pettevi nothlo pedha mudha..

[Teluguredu]

2 minutes ago, idibezwada said:

nenu kuda...fish stalls aite baga pettevi nothlo pedha mudha..

Lol fish tinnara meeru.

[CanadianMalodu]

25 minutes ago, mailkarthik said:

It ll open the flood gates for investments vayyy. Similar arguments came during Microsoft Hyderabad.. This is a Microsoft moment for Andhra. There is no  comparison to Adani Data Center. 


By the way, What did you think of his Pachallu, Appadalu and Ginger Garlic businesses creating employment

Nah, very different.  Microsoft came to hyderabad during offshoring BPO time.  That's corps saving dollars by getting work done cheaply in India. Due to laggard rupee and tying INR to USD, Indian underemployed college grads benefited.

Data centers don't create jobs not even to that extent. What's worse, government is throwing away large parcels of land for them and then subsiding them. The Vizag data center alone consumes 1GW of electricity, roughly 1/6th of state's annual electricity consumption and then millions of gallons of water. 

State doesn't have a surplus of both. It will put unnecessary pressure on state's resources. All for the data that India has no SOVERIGNITY over. 

 

[Teluguredu]

20 minutes ago, mailkarthik said:

So, you are saying Microsoft's investment in Hyderabad isn't because of CBN-Bill Gates meet but center willed so MS set up their offices even when there isn't any infrastructure back then

that meet was just for some adjustments for baboru ,they probably have already talked to central government.

 

Even then microsoft coming during IT boom for outsourcing  is different from data centre.

[mailkarthik]

5 minutes ago, CanadianMalodu said:

Nah, very different.  Microsoft came to hyderabad during offshoring BPO time.  That's corps saving dollars by getting work done cheaply in India. Due to laggard rupee and tying INR to USD, Indian underemployed college grads benefited.

Data center don't create jobs not even to that extent. What's worse, government is throwing away large parcels of land for them and then subsiding them. The Vizag data center alone consumes 1GW of electricity, roughly 1/6th of state's annual electricity consumption and then millions of gallons of water. 

State doesn't have a surplus of both. It will put unnecessary pressure on state's resources. All for the data that India has no SOVERIGNITY over. 

 

Question is why Microsoft choose Hyderabad back in the day? and Why is Google choosing AP now. Because they are creating a business friendly environment. 

Back to your point.. Very True about the electricity consumption and water consumption.. But there is enough technology (Solar/ Nuclear power plants) to take care of the needs. Tell me what other single investment can provide 10,000 Crores of GSDP?

Other than Google Data center Cluster, there are only 3-4 singular investments that can contribute to 10,000 crores. 
Vinfast EV plant in Toothukudi, Foxconn Iphone plant in Karnataka, may be Adani Mundra port and Reliance Jamnagar refinery anthey. 

[mailkarthik]

11 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

that meet was just for some adjustments for baboru ,they probably have already talked to central government.

 

Even then microsoft coming during IT boom for outsourcing  is different from data centre.

Ok. So Jagan and Amaranath would have talked to Central Government about Ginger Galic, Appadam plants and center led then?

[Teluguredu]

13 minutes ago, mailkarthik said:

Question is why Microsoft choose Hyderabad back in the day? and Why is Google choosing AP now. Because they are creating a business friendly environment. 

Back to your point.. Very True about the electricity consumption and water consumption.. But there is enough technology (Solar/ Nuclear power plants) to take care of the needs. Tell me what other single investment can provide 10,000 Crores of GSDP?

Other than Google Data center Cluster, there are only 3-4 singular investments that can contribute to 10,000 crores. 
Vinfast EV plant in Toothukudi, Foxconn Iphone plant in Karnataka, may be Adani Mundra port and Reliance Jamnagar refinery anthey. 

Because of existing PSUs and institutes  ,population one of the biggest cities in India and geographical advantages like less prone to natural disasters and colder climate than surroundings.

If you think clearly even pune and banglore had similar geographical advantages like hyderabad and similar PSUs ,only difference was they were much smaller than hyderabad by population.

[Teluguredu]

13 minutes ago, mailkarthik said:

Ok. So Jagan and Amaranath would have talked to Central Government about Ginger Galic, Appadam plants and center led then?

 Schemes like fish andhra are state government initiative cause it didn't happen anywhere else 

[CanadianMalodu]

29 minutes ago, mailkarthik said:

Question is why Microsoft choose Hyderabad back in the day? and Why is Google choosing AP now. Because they are creating a business friendly environment. 

Back to your point.. Very True about the electricity consumption and water consumption.. But there is enough technology (Solar/ Nuclear power plants) to take care of the needs. Tell me what other single investment can provide 10,000 Crores of GSDP?

Other than Google Data center Cluster, there are only 3-4 singular investments that can contribute to 10,000 crores. 
Vinfast EV plant in Toothukudi, Foxconn Iphone plant in Karnataka, may be Adani Mundra port and Reliance Jamnagar refinery anthey. 

Center direction largely, but Baboru being provincial/state executive had some say. 

Andhra doesn't have a nuclear power plant, solar power is less than 10%. Bulk of electricity is thermal, and then hydro. Andhra needs to keep buying electricity as it already does, and then hand it over to data centers at subsidized prices. The recovery will mean more per unit prices transferred to household. 

Now about the 10,000 crores of GDSP. I doubt that figure. Bulk of the budget  goes from Google to American corps involved in the construction, with some level of sub contracting for Indian corps. Most of that money moves back to American Corps. If it's the employee count, the Citadel campus, Nevada the largest in the US has an employee count of around 1500. It also doesn't mean all these are highly paid. What jobs are we talking about? system admins? Network admins? Even then they will be remote, you don't know from where. 

I don't know how this will push any associated retail/consumption activity, compared to what BPOs did during IT boom period. 

Manufacturing plants are very different. They involve in creation of local supply chains, will recruit large amounts of people (unless robots start replacing bodies in large numbers). 

[Android_Halwa]

49 minutes ago, Thokkalee said:

You are not keeping up.. Amaravati is Quantum valley, not AI.. 

I really wish they focus and spend more money on VIZAG and surrounding areas than wasting money on Amaravathi.. 

No, you are not following properly. amaravati is the AI city….

Well, TDP has already abandoned its Amravati plans silently. Except for govt machinery, nothing is going to come up with public funding. 
 

The initial loans discussed have fallen back, the 15k crores so called grant is not on the cards anymore, the loans have stalled and so are the grand old plans. Amaravati is a mere gated community capital.

Focus is Vizag and Sri City plus Between Bangalore and Chennai corridor. Any other investment in AP is waste of money.

[ARYA]

meru meru kottuku savandi... Ma vizag ni develop cheyyandi...ani antunna @JANASENA 

[ARYA]

37 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

No, you are not following properly. amaravati is the AI city….

Well, TDP has already abandoned its Amravati plans silently. Except for govt machinery, nothing is going to come up with public funding. 
 

The initial loans discussed have fallen back, the 15k crores so called grant is not on the cards anymore, the loans have stalled and so are the grand old plans. Amaravati is a mere gated community capital.

Focus is Vizag and Sri City plus Between Bangalore and Chennai corridor. Any other investment in AP is waste of money.

anna ma small coastal town emmana develop iyye chance unda..

[citizenofIND]

3 hours ago, Android_Halwa said:

+1

Itkane okadu, visuonary ani sepoukuturigutunnadu…

Amaravati ani okati invest chesi, google maps lo pedithe sundar Pichai ki kanipinchaledu anta…

AI capital Amaravati address kodithe Vizag supistundi mari…

Ledhu AP crda kanipinchindhi but Pakkanne okka halwa lang @ ettinattu chusi dropped to Vizag anta

[citizenofIND]

1 minute ago, ARYA said:

anna ma small coastal town emmana develop iyye chance unda..

Appude Anna ayyipoyyindha 

[akkum_bakkum]

45 minutes ago, Android_Halwa said:

No, you are not following properly. amaravati is the AI city….

Well, TDP has already abandoned its Amravati plans silently. Except for govt machinery, nothing is going to come up with public funding. 
 

The initial loans discussed have fallen back, the 15k crores so called grant is not on the cards anymore, the loans have stalled and so are the grand old plans. Amaravati is a mere gated community capital.

Focus is Vizag and Sri City plus Between Bangalore and Chennai corridor. Any other investment in AP is waste of money.

Manameppudanna atu pothe ga ground reality thelavaniki....keyboard kaliga vundi, painunchi scripy vasthundani okate dappu kodthav.