Thoughts on forgotten Congi CMs like Jalagam, Chenna Reddy, Kotla Vijayabhaskar, Janardhan Reddy etc

[Teluguredu]

13 minutes ago, Redarya said:

They are forgotten because

1) they did not bring party to power/people did not elect them

2) They are just appointed by high command 

3) they could not make any decisions on their own nor take up any development activities hence 

kbr had more power than YSR in congress party ,chenna reddy had more influence than kcr in telangana before kcr became cm.they weren't even loyal to indira gandhi but she had no choice to appoint them because of their influence.

Kbr brought more institutions to hyd than anyone else.

 anjaih ,venkatarami reddy, Janardhan reddy,jalagam come under Gandhi loyalty post.

Only reason is media wasn't present that much and all their followers are out of politics are dead now.

[Android_Halwa]

1 hour ago, Teluguredu said:

Chenna reddy is no.1 in intelligence but kbr had more impact as he had a long tenure and was much more influential in national politics , indira Gandhi preferred to have strong leaders with strong mindset back then ,only after the congress split and powerful congress leaders betraying her she was insecure of promoting strong leaders ,KBR was one of the main people behind congress split.

Kbr probably had the most influence in congress out of any leader out of congress in telugu states , he was top 5 leaders in congress back then in the entire country.

Yeah, Chenna Reddy was more of an able administrator and his services were utilized at various stages but like all other congress’s CM’s, he never had a full term to complete. LBR indeed had a clout and was able to complete a full term, that too at a time when internal rebellion was strong drawn from sub regional politics.

[Redarya]

6 minutes ago, Teluguredu said:

kbr had more power than YSR in congress party ,chenna reddy had more influence than kcr in telangana before kcr became cm.they weren't even loyal to indira gandhi but she had no choice to appoint them because of their influence.

Kbr brought more institutions to hyd than anyone else.

 anjaih ,venkatarami reddy, Janardhan reddy,jalagam come under Gandhi loyalty post.

Only reason is media wasn't present that much and all their followers are out of politics are dead now.

Chenna Reddy had power long before he became CM, when the TG movement kicked off. I thought he became old and lost all the zeal by the time he became CM. And his popularity was confined to parts of TG only 

[Android_Halwa]

17 hours ago, venkappa said:

Was Kotla a factionist like Raja Reddy or Paritala?

The Kurnool factionist were more like a raw businessmen than factionists killing people. Mainly Ballary/Raichur mining, granite business interests driven politics chesinaru and may be pre independence but post, kurnool factionism bloodhsed takkuve…

[Teluguredu]

40 minutes ago, Redarya said:

Chenna Reddy had power long before he became CM, when the TG movement kicked off. I thought he became old and lost all the zeal by the time he became CM. And his popularity was confined to parts of TG only 

He won 10 out of 14 parliament seats in tg ,higher strike rate than trs in 2014.

He was about to start a seperate  party when indira gandhi was expelled by kasu Brahmananda reddy as the president of congress  after emergency failure as a lot of leaders blamed indira for their situation but chenna reddy was convinced by his advisors to join indira gandhi as they believed she was going to win the elections due to sympathy which she did win.

he still had a lot of influence so indira had no choice but to make him chief minister by then she was very wary of strong leaders as she was kicked out twice from the party ,at both times kasu brahmananda reddy was a key figure in her expulsion.

Saying they listened to indira gandhi is stupid ,congress had a old guard or some people called it "syndicate " faction with more experienced and powerful leaders like nijalingappa,kamraj nadar ,kasu brahmananda reddy ,sanjeeva reddy,Atulya Ghosh,some gujarati and marathi politicians who were anti-indira gandhi  ,indira gandhi herself had a faction of her own including ex-kannada cm devendra urs and some north indian politicians and minority leaders.marri chenna reddy joined this faction on the advice of the people around him.

After post-emergency expulsion she became paranoid and only started preferring weak leaders with absolute loyalty and kept changing them to prevent them having too much power which was used by TDP as campaign material.

[yslokesh]

3 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

Chenna reddy is no.1 in intelligence but kbr had more impact as he had a long tenure and was much more influential in national politics , indira Gandhi preferred to have strong leaders with strong mindset back then ,only after the congress split and powerful congress leaders betraying her she was insecure of promoting strong leaders ,KBR was one of the main people behind congress split.

Kbr probably had the most influence in congress out of any leader out of congress in telugu states , he was top 5 leaders in congress back then in the entire country.

Replace strong with JiHozoor.

[Teluguredu]

27 minutes ago, yslokesh said:

Replace strong with JiHozoor.

The experienced politicians or old guard in congress like kamraj nadar,kasu Brahmananda reddy ,neelam sanjeeva reddy,Atulya Ghosh and some other old politicians have all opposed indira gandhi having power and using party to boost her own image among poor people and minorities and formed their own faction and controlled a large part of congress in deciding tickets and even lobbied for Neelam sanjeeva reddy for president and got him appointed as congress candidate.

But indira supported some other candidate who won and the old faction ganged up and expelled her out of the party but she proved her majority in the next elections and the old guard was dissolved into indiras congress ,they expelled her again after emergency failure but she won again in next elections ,this is when mcr became cm ,after second expulsion when kbr was party president,she became extremely paranoid and removed able leaders like chenna reddy for random reasons and appointed loyalists but useless leaders like anjaih , TDP started using that for campaign and now TDP supporters think the situation was like that all the time.

[venkappa]

On 1/4/2026 at 10:03 PM, Teluguredu said:

 he had connections with big families in rayalaseema and a senior leader.

Senior ante Narasimha Rao?

[manadonga]

Kbr chenna reddy tappa andaru rosaiyya level 

vella kante kiran kuma reddy better ekkuva kalam palinchadu 

[Teluguredu]

3 hours ago, venkappa said:

Senior ante Narasimha Rao?

No he is a senior leader himself.

[venkappa]

2 hours ago, Teluguredu said:

No he is a senior leader himself.

THen who was that senior leader?

[venkappa]

On 1/5/2026 at 4:56 AM, Android_Halwa said:

The Kurnool factionist were more like a raw businessmen than factionists killing people. Mainly Ballary/Raichur mining, granite business interests driven politics chesinaru and may be pre independence but post, kurnool factionism bloodhsed takkuve…

Kadapa and Anantapuram has more violent factionism than Kurnool.

[Teluguredu]

25 minutes ago, venkappa said:

THen who was that senior leader?

I meant kotla was a senior.