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[quote author=Man For The Society link=topic=153245.msg1798787#msg1798787 date=1297192573]
elucidate with some articles please
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To be sure, the PLAAF has traditionally outnumbered
the IAF by an order of magnitude. In the early 1990s, for example, when
the “old PLAAF” was at its zenith, the Chinese air force inventory was huge,
consisting of some 5,000-odd airplanes. From the IAF’s perspective, however,
even at these force sizes the PLAAF was a dangerous but manageable threat
because the backbone of its combat capability consisted of about 3,000 highly
obsolete second-generation fi ghters such as the J-6/MiG-19.
Th e third-generation fi ghters in the force at that time, particularly the J-7
E/G and the J-8—the former based on the venerable MiG-21 design and the
latter on the failed Russian twin-engine MiG-21 developmental off shoot codenamed
“FLIPPER” by NATO—were far fewer in number. Th e J-7 component
included roughly 500 aircraft in varying confi gurations and the J-8s probably
never exceeded 100 airplanes in the PLAAF inventory. China also maintained
a small bomber component, consisting of indigenous variants of the obsolete
Russian Tu-16, which was fi rst introduced in the 1950s; being primarily a
daylight bomber armed with gravity bombs, its survivability in missions against
the IAF was highly questionable.14

Th e most capable warfi ghting component of the PLAAF was either
as large as or, more likely, smaller than the IAF’s combat component for
decades after 1971. Furthermore, the PLAAF’s poor combat support aircraft
inventory, primitive integrated air defense system, and mediocre surfaceto-
air missile component left the force as a whole a poor challenger to the
IAF. What advantaged India even more in this regard was the fact that the
PLAAF’s best airplanes were deployed not in the southwestern quadrant of the
country—against India—but along its northern and eastern borders, where
they were designated for contingencies involving Russia and Taiwan and Japan,
respectively. Also, Chinese air
bases in the Tibetan region
were extremely primitive, the
early warning net in this area
virtually nonexistent, and the
physical infrastructure on the
Tibetan plateau simply unable
to support any signifi cant air
operations against India.

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[quote author=bingo_123 link=topic=153245.msg1798833#msg1798833 date=1297192904]
ofcourse they r copy cats...why we r still rely on them..who knows ...i do agree that strengthen the army is not enough to become a super power. we kno that they r rapidly growin up in terms of wealth n political power. no wonder in near future if their currency get globalised. can u believe that in AUS iphone to innerwear every product frm china...infact is that here chinese immigrants r having luxurious life style than oz citizens. this is just starting yaar.infront infront crocodile festival.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5D2Fd0rLaM&feature=related#]China's economy Surpass Japan in July 2010 !![/url]
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hmm us will use india to curb chinese agression if needed. russia and china are not great friends either. so getting global acceptance is near to impossible  sCo_hmmthink sCo_hmmthink

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[quote author=PAVITHRA link=topic=153245.msg1798873#msg1798873 date=1297193173]
hmm us will use india to curb chinese agression if needed. russia and china are not great friends either. so getting global acceptance is near to impossible  sCo_hmmthink sCo_hmmthink
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Both Russia and India do not want powerful neighbor

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[quote author=BENZBABU link=topic=153245.msg1798880#msg1798880 date=1297193235]
Both Russia and India do not want powerful neighbor
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yup

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[quote author=BENZBABU link=topic=153245.msg1798868#msg1798868 date=1297193147]
To be sure, the PLAAF has traditionally outnumbered
the IAF by an order of magnitude. In the early 1990s, for example, when
the “old PLAAF” was at its zenith, the Chinese air force inventory was huge,
consisting of some 5,000-odd airplanes. From the IAF’s perspective, however,
even at these force sizes the PLAAF was a dangerous but manageable threat
because the backbone of its combat capability consisted of about 3,000 highly
obsolete second-generation fi ghters such as the J-6/MiG-19.
Th e third-generation fi ghters in the force at that time, particularly the J-7
E/G and the J-8—the former based on the venerable MiG-21 design and the
latter on the failed Russian twin-engine MiG-21 developmental off shoot codenamed
“FLIPPER” by NATO—were far fewer in number. Th e J-7 component
included roughly 500 aircraft in varying confi gurations and the J-8s probably
never exceeded 100 airplanes in the PLAAF inventory. China also maintained
a small bomber component, consisting of indigenous variants of the obsolete
Russian Tu-16, which was fi rst introduced in the 1950s; being primarily a
daylight bomber armed with gravity bombs, its survivability in missions against
the IAF was highly questionable.14

Th e most capable warfi ghting component of the PLAAF was either
as large as or, more likely, smaller than the IAF’s combat component for
decades after 1971. Furthermore, the PLAAF’s poor combat support aircraft
inventory, primitive integrated air defense system, and mediocre surfaceto-
air missile component left the force as a whole a poor challenger to the
IAF. What advantaged India even more in this regard was the fact that the
PLAAF’s best airplanes were deployed not in the southwestern quadrant of the
country—against India—but along its northern and eastern borders, where
they were designated for contingencies involving Russia and Taiwan and Japan,
respectively. Also, Chinese air
bases in the Tibetan region
were extremely primitive, the
early warning net in this area
virtually nonexistent, and the
physical infrastructure on the
Tibetan plateau simply unable
to support any signifi cant air
operations against India.
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thats why they are planning to conquer arunachal pradesh to keep pressure on india.

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[url=http://www.orthougm.com/vw.php?p=China%20Indigenous%20Military%20Industry%20Advances&d=http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/2006/RAND_CT256.pdf&s=109.76]http://www.orthougm.com/vw.php?p=China%20Indigenous%20Military%20Industry%20Advances&d=http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/2006/RAND_CT256.pdf&s=109.76[/url]
[url=http://www.orthougm.com/china_indigenous_military_industry_advances.html]http://www.orthougm.com/china_indigenous_military_industry_advances.html[/url]
i donno much abt defense news.anyhow i think it would be helpful to us to know abt chinese advanced technology in defense sector. i am not supporting china's technology or anything. i wish all the nations shuld come together to stop the chinese dominance in the world.
F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n

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[quote author=bingo_123 link=topic=153245.msg1799028#msg1799028 date=1297194506]
[url=http://www.orthougm.com/vw.php?p=China%20Indigenous%20Military%20Industry%20Advances&d=http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/2006/RAND_CT256.pdf&s=109.76]http://www.orthougm.com/vw.php?p=China%20Indigenous%20Military%20Industry%20Advances&d=http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/2006/RAND_CT256.pdf&s=109.76[/url]
[url=http://www.orthougm.com/china_indigenous_military_industry_advances.html]http://www.orthougm.com/china_indigenous_military_industry_advances.html[/url]
i donno much abt defense news.anyhow i think it would be helpful to us to know abt chinese advanced technology in defense sector. i am not supporting china's technology or anything. i wish all the nations shuld come together to stop the chinese dominance in the world.
F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n
[/quote] thankyou thankyou thankyou

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[quote author=BENZBABU link=topic=153245.msg1799036#msg1799036 date=1297194581]
thankyou thankyou thankyou
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no worries bro...you welcome. thankyou thankyou thankyou its pleasure  sharing ideas with u.
you rock you rock you rock nice thread nice thread

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[quote author=bingo_123 link=topic=153245.msg1799028#msg1799028 date=1297194506]
[url=http://www.orthougm.com/vw.php?p=China%20Indigenous%20Military%20Industry%20Advances&d=http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/2006/RAND_CT256.pdf&s=109.76]http://www.orthougm.com/vw.php?p=China%20Indigenous%20Military%20Industry%20Advances&d=http://www.rand.org/pubs/testimonies/2006/RAND_CT256.pdf&s=109.76[/url]
[url=http://www.orthougm.com/china_indigenous_military_industry_advances.html]http://www.orthougm.com/china_indigenous_military_industry_advances.html[/url]
i donno much abt defense news.anyhow i think it would be helpful to us to know abt chinese advanced technology in defense sector. i am not supporting china's technology or anything. i wish all the nations shuld come together to stop the chinese dominance in the world.
F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n F@!n
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@gr33d @gr33d sHa_clap4 sHa_clap4

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[quote author=PAVITHRA link=topic=153245.msg1799108#msg1799108 date=1297194980]
@gr33d @gr33d sHa_clap4 sHa_clap4

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thankyou thankyou sHa_high5ing sHa_high5ing

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endi baa roju china peru cheppi baypedthunnavu?  F@!n F@!n sSc_hiding2 sSc_hiding2 idanthaa nijamenaa leka arms race lo west countries manaki [img]http://www.chalanachithram.com/discus/clipart2/ali_venu.gif[/img]aaa??

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Chinese will  *7*^ *7*^ *7*^ *7*^ US some day in near future... that is for sure.... the 1st thing it will say is our country will not trade in dollars.... followed by Russia... may be INDIA if they get enough balls by tht time...
then the dollar bill will just be used as a toilet paper.. @3$% @3$% @3$% @3$%

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[quote author=wolverine link=topic=153245.msg1799304#msg1799304 date=1297196936]
Chinese will  *7*^ *7*^ *7*^ *7*^ US some day in near future... that is for sure.... the 1st thing it will say is our country will not trade in dollars.... followed by Russia... may be INDIA if they get enough balls by tht time...
then the dollar bill will just be used as a toilet paper.. @3$% @3$% @3$% @3$%
[/quote] namaste baa.. how r u? [img]http://www.bewarsetalk.net/discus/movieanimated2/bemmi.sarasam.gif[/img]

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[quote author=bangarubullodu link=topic=153245.msg1799336#msg1799336 date=1297197172]
namaste baa.. how r u? [img]http://www.bewarsetalk.net/discus/movieanimated2/bemmi.sarasam.gif[/img]
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namastey namasteyy baa... i m fine how abt u?? how is life?? ~"! ~"! ~"! ~"! ~"!

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[quote author=wolverine link=topic=153245.msg1799355#msg1799355 date=1297197270]
namastey namasteyy baa... i m fine how abt u?? how is life?? ~"! ~"! ~"! ~"! ~"!
[/quote] cool baa.. no tensions..  all happies sCh_elmodance2 sCh_elmodance2

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