******************** Long Weekend DISCO: DO YOU BELIEVE IN PATRIOTISM??? *******

[ROUDRAM]

[quote author=Nellore Pedda reddy link=topic=233000.msg2898598#msg2898598 date=1315068110]
first point....just bcoz we are born in tht country....its great ani feel avvadam correct antavaa    sCo_^Y sCo_^Y sCo_^Y

so caste feeling, regional feeling and patriotism are more or less tha same antav....anthenaa  sCo_^Y sCo_^Y sCo_^Y
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yes............  in both cases

1) there positives and negitives  in all countries.. a true patroit recognizes his strengths of the country to over come the weaknesses of his country
He doesnt sit back and say.... is desh ka kuch nahi hoyegaa..... or ..........is se kunch nahi hoyegaaa

2) yes in a sense of belonging, they are all the same.........even though we have numerous languages.. religions... regions.. castes... dialects.......... even though we fight among our self for our identity.... we come together for the greater good when there is an aggression on our country

every thing has priority and a hierarchy .... if some one asks u" whom do you like the most... your father or your mother"  u cant ans... atleast most people cant

but if some one asks you " whom do you like the most... your parents or you in-laws" you would say your parents............. atleast most of them would

the same thing applies for feeling for belonging....... how much importance your giving to each one

[ROUDRAM]

[quote author=mattiburra link=topic=233000.msg2895902#msg2895902 date=1315004931]
Patriotism is a 'cultivated' feeling like any other feeling. One is interested in his/her own survival. If somebody tries to steal my living, I will confront it purely to protect my survival as per my strength. No name can be given to this instinct. Feeling of patriotism is unreal as the underlying intention is just  'one's survival'. Therefore the question of whether it is necessary or not is invalid.

And one doing any good to the society is unreal. One is doing good to oneself. Always.
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the one doing good to hime self belong to the society,,,, by doing good to himself ..he is doing good to the society

[ROUDRAM]

[quote author=POOLA RANGADU link=topic=233000.msg2896778#msg2896778 date=1315014924]
manaki upayogapadutundi anukunte ...ee "commong grounds" ayinaa vaadukovatam Human nature.

CASTE FEELING tappu annappudu..REGIONAL FEELING Tappu annappudu..PATRIOTISM Equals CHAUVNISM...ante..adi kuda tappe.

COUNTRIES ni separate cheseevi languages/ cultures ee ayitey...CASTES ni separate chesevi kuda...traditions , food habits , cultural differences e mari.

ivanni IDENTITY CRISIS nunchi puttukochinavee....mana avsaraaniki edi panikostundoo..appatiki adi vaadukovatam prati manishi cheseee pani ee....Kondaru...dorikipotaaru...kondaru...tapinchukuntaaru...dorikina vaadu donga...dorakani vaadu Dora...anthe.
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The difference between CHAUVNISM . and patriotism is... patriotism doesnt include  unnecessary hatred to words other countries or groups

[Nellore Pedda reddy]

[quote author=ROUDRAM link=topic=233000.msg2898628#msg2898628 date=1315068598]
yes............  in both cases

1) there positives and negitives  in all countries.. a true patroit recognizes his strengths of the country to over come the weaknesses of his country
He doesnt sit back and say.... is desh ka kuch nahi hoyegaa..... or ..........is se kunch nahi hoyegaaa

2) yes in a sense of belonging, they are all the same.........even though we have numerous languages.. religions... regions.. castes... dialects.......... even though we fight among our self for our identity.... we come together for the greater good when there is an aggression on our country

every thing has priority and a hierarchy .... if some one asks u" whom do you like the most... your father or your mother"  u cant ans... atleast most people cant

but if some one asks you " whom do you like the most... your parents or you in-laws" you would say your parents............. atleast most of them would

the same thing applies for feeling for belonging....... how much importance your giving to each one
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1) Can i replace "country" with "state" or "the country which we live" or "our society"?

2) So why is "Patriotism" on the top of your hierarchy ? why not Caste feeling or regional feeling?

[Nellore Pedda reddy]

[quote author=ROUDRAM link=topic=233000.msg2898648#msg2898648 date=1315069171]
The difference between CHAUVNISM . and patriotism is... patriotism doesnt include  unnecessary hatred to words other countries or groups
[/quote]

@gr33d @gr33d

[ROUDRAM]

[quote author=Nellore Pedda reddy link=topic=233000.msg2898660#msg2898660 date=1315069497]
1) Can i replace "country" with "state" or "the country which we live" or "our society"?

2) So why is "Patriotism" on the top of your hierarchy ? why not Caste feeling or regional feeling?
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1) yes............ state and society are  smaller parts of the country............. depending on how you define society

2) Its the importance you give to it........... patriotism is on the top because of the greater good that happens to people then regional/caste feeling

[Nellore Pedda reddy]

[quote author=ROUDRAM link=topic=233000.msg2898667#msg2898667 date=1315069759]
1) yes............ state and society are  smaller parts of the country............. depending on how you define society

2) Its the importance you give to it........... patriotism is on the top because of the greater good that happens to people then regional/caste feeling
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1) "Country" in the sense......any country.....India or America.....It doesn't matter.....Do you agree with that?

2) So.....as you broaden your boundaries.....and do something good for the society.....it makes more sense....anthenaa  sCo_^Y sCo_^Y

[ROUDRAM]

[quote author=Nellore Pedda reddy link=topic=233000.msg2898697#msg2898697 date=1315070258]
1) "Country" in the sense......any country.....India or America.....It doesn't matter.....Do you agree with that?

2) So.....as you broaden your boundaries.....and do something good for the society.....it makes more sense....anthenaa  sCo_^Y sCo_^Y
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1) yh if you are born in that country..........yes
2)  society is nothing but individuals.......... a society is just a plural sense of these individuals..... it can be big  or small
  it is a belief that  supporting the country on a whole will fetch an individual more good than supporting his region

[Nellore Pedda reddy]

[quote author=ROUDRAM link=topic=233000.msg2898712#msg2898712 date=1315070547]

1) yh if you are born in that country..........yes
2)  society is nothing but individuals.......... a society is just a plural sense of these individuals..... it can be big  or small
  it is a belief that  supporting the country on a whole will fetch an individual more good than supporting his region
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1) why do u have to say "born in that country" always? why not....."living in that country"?

2)so the society might be american or indian....Is it the same?

In a broader sense.....if you consider yourself as a citizen of a continent....or a global citizen......and support/fight for a cause rationally.....Don't you think thts even better?

[htnamus]

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[pavan_613]

[quote author=HS link=topic=233000.msg2898771#msg2898771 date=1315071456]
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[ROUDRAM]

[quote author=Nellore Pedda reddy link=topic=233000.msg2898745#msg2898745 date=1315071104]
1) why do u have to say "born in that country" always? why not....."living in that country"?

2)so the society might be american or indian....Is it the same?

In a broader sense.....if you consider yourself as a citizen of a continent....or a global citizen......and support/fight for a cause rationally.....Don't you think thts even better?
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1) do you give same importance to the person who has give birth to you and the person who has nursed you
the same way if i ask you ..weather you give preference to the one who gave you life or the one who brought you up ... that would be a wrong question

2) what  you said is true when there is an imminent danger to the continent or to the world by an alienation or some thing else .... I would bet you would think  as citizen of the world

[htnamus]

[quote author=BOB MARLEY link=topic=233000.msg2898774#msg2898774 date=1315071498]
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[pavan_613]

[quote author=HS link=topic=233000.msg2898780#msg2898780 date=1315071611]
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[htnamus]

[quote author=BOB MARLEY link=topic=233000.msg2898796#msg2898796 date=1315071775]
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