Caste Could Play A Role In Who Represents India......

[Yuva Nataratna]

[i]Caste could play a role in who represents India, writes Andrew Stevenson from Sydney Morning Herald.[/i]


Even today, with the game reaching further and further into the countryside, and the so-called lower orders, the Indian team has a decided flavour with Anil Kumble, Rahul Dravid, VVS Laxman, Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly, R.P. Singh and Ishant Sharma all Brahmins. Wasim Jaffer is a Muslim, Harbhajan Singh a Sikh, while, of the Hindu players, only Mahendra Dhoni and Yuvraj Singh come from “lower” castes.But toss the question into still water and you might not hear a splash.[color=#333333]
Not all agree. Siriyavan Anand, a Dalit (the caste formerly called untouchables), has written provocatively and critically of the Brahmin domination, suggesting it was easy to “infer that cricket is a game that best suits Brahmanical tastes and bodies, and that there has been a preponderance of Brahman cricket players at the national level”.Anand’s argument that cricket is an idle and indolent game – at least when played by higher-caste Indians – is readily accepted by commentators and even Australian crowds, who know next to nothing of caste in India.”Why do their fielders not chase the ball to the boundary? Why do Indian batsmen rarely run for singles, apparently preferring to hit the ball to the fence or amble through for two runs in no obvious haste?” Anand wrote. “Having too many Brahmans means that you play the game a little too softly, and mostly for yourself.”[/color]
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The man rated India’s best fieldsman, Eknath Solkar, is not a Brahmin, nor is Vinod Kambli, a precociously talented batsmen from a “lower” caste, who burst on the scene with Tendulkar when the pair made a world record partnership of 664 as schoolboys. He played the last of his 17 Tests in 1995, despite an average of 54.20 and a highest score of 227.Despite his talents, Kambli was always booed and mocked at his home ground, Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai. Observers believed it was because of the dark colour of his skin. Not so, says Kambli. “I think it’s because of my caste.”Siddhartha Vaidyanathan, assistant editor of cricinfo.com, believes caste is relevant within the Indian team at a subconscious level, “in terms of the groups that are formed, in terms of the people who feel wanted, in terms of the people who don’t feel wanted”. “It’s also because people from the lower castes have this tendency to not feel wanted, people have to make an extra effort,” he says.[/color]
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“But people from the top castes have a tendency to be stand-offish, so I think exaggerates it a bit more and the gap increases.”Siddhartha can see caste as a possible explanation for the Brahmin dominance, particularly in batting. “Traditionally, cricket has been an elitist sport, and in terms of the physique and what you need as a batsman, it’s more skill, wrist and angles than what you need as a fast bowler or fielder,” he says. “That probably explains it in a way. If you look at the body structure of the higher castes, you would find they aren’t as athletic as they are deft.”Cricket is also a game of long hours – both in preparation through many days in the junior ranks, to play and to watch – establishing an inherent bias towards those wealthy enough to indulge their passion. Twenty20 cricket may be about to change all that, with the find of the recent national competition being V. Devendran, who hails from the tribal regions of Tamil Nadu.Shastri believes more players from the regions will emerge.[/color]
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“People from the outskirts of the metros are hungrier, they want it more than the city boys, who are distracted by too many things,” he says. “You look at India, you look at Pakistan, you look at Sri Lanka – you will see more and more players coming from outside the main cities.”Dhoni, who comes from that other world and who is already the most popular Indian cricketer among the younger generation, only a notch below Tendulkar, is another example of the change.”His popularity is more from his dashing play, but in an indirect way, a village boy watching Dhoni will look at him and say, ‘If he can go on and do so well for India, I definitely can,’ that caste is not a barrier in cricket,” Siddhartha says. “This might open the tap.”[/color]
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SECOND TEST SIDE
Castes among the Indian team’s Hindus:
Brahmin
Anil Kumble
Rahul Dravid
VVS Laxman
Sachin Tendulkar
Sourav Ganguly
R.P. Singh
Ishant Sharma
Jat
Yuvraj Singh
Rajput
Mahendra Dhoni[/color]
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Of the team’s non-Hindus, Wasim Jaffer is a Muslim and Harbhajan Singh a Sikh.[/color]
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Anand’s argument that cricket is an idle and indolent game – at least when played by higher-caste Indians – is readily accepted by commentators and even Australian crowds, who know next to nothing of caste in India.”Why do their fielders not chase the ball to the boundary? Why do Indian batsmen rarely run for singles, apparently preferring to hit the ball to the fence or amble through for two runs in no obvious haste?” Anand wrote. “Having too many Brahmans means that you play the game a little too softly, and mostly for yourself.”[/color]
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The man rated India’s best fieldsman, Eknath Solkar, is not a Brahmin, nor is Vinod Kambli, a precociously talented batsmen from a “lower” caste, who burst on the scene with Tendulkar when the pair made a world record partnership of 664 as schoolboys. He played the last of his 17 Tests in 1995, despite an average of 54.20 and a highest score of 227.[/color]
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Despite his talents, Kambli was always booed and mocked at his home ground, Wankhede Stadium in Mumbai. Observers believed it was because of the dark colour of his skin. Not so, says Kambli. “I think it’s because of my caste.”Siddhartha Vaidyanathan, assistant editor of cricinfo.com, believes caste is relevant within the Indian team at a subconscious level, “in terms of the groups that are formed, in terms of the people who feel wanted, in terms of the people who don’t feel wanted”. “It’s also because people from the lower castes have this tendency to not feel wanted, people have to make an extra effort,” he says.[/color]
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“But people from the top castes have a tendency to be stand-offish, so I think exaggerates it a bit more and the gap increases.”Siddhartha can see caste as a possible explanation for the Brahmin dominance, particularly in batting. “Traditionally, cricket has been an elitist sport, and in terms of the physique and what you need as a batsman, it’s more skill, wrist and angles than what you need as a fast bowler or fielder,” he says. “That probably explains it in a way. If you look at the body structure of the higher castes, you would find they aren’t as athletic as they are deft.”Cricket is also a game of long hours – both in preparation through many days in the junior ranks, to play and to watch – establishing an inherent bias towards those wealthy enough to indulge their passion. Twenty20 cricket may be about to change all that, with the find of the recent national competition being V. Devendran, who hails from the tribal regions of Tamil Nadu.Shastri believes more players from the regions will emerge.[/color]
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SECOND TEST SIDE
Castes among the Indian team’s Hindus:
Brahmin
Anil Kumble
Rahul Dravid
VVS Laxman
Sachin Tendulkar
Sourav Ganguly
R.P. Singh
Ishant Sharma
Jat
Yuvraj Singh
Rajput
Mahendra Dhoni[/color]
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Of the team’s non-Hindus, Wasim Jaffer is a Muslim and Harbhajan Singh a Sikh.[/color]
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[Jambhalheart]

utter non sense

ee article rasinodiki paani bongu lenattlu vundi, ekkado aus. lo vunna vadiki ekkada paristhithulu ela thelusthaayi ?

[tom bhayya]

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[k2s]

1 sentence lo seppu edaina,........

[Bhayya]

Article credibility telvadu kaani, article chaala old... And cricket la caste chooshenta fools leru anukunta... And all those players are talented.

[Bhayya]

[quote name='k2s' timestamp='1320560713' post='3068309']
1 sentence lo seppu edaina,........
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Em le daddy, Indian cricket team la caste ni chooshi selection ayitadi, only bapans ni select chestaru ani oka australian raashindu [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]

[tom bhayya]

MS Dhoni lower caste anta. [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]... raasinodiki puraanalu theliyavu anukunta or caste system theliyadhu...

[k2s]

[quote name='subba rav' timestamp='1320561403' post='3068336']

Em le daddy, Indian cricket team la caste ni chooshi selection ayitadi, only bapans ni select chestaru ani oka australian raashindu [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]
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oohhhhhhhh

[Yuva Nataratna]

Under 19 team with their caste specified when this article was written.........

Name Caste
Virat Kohli (capt) UC
Abhinav Mukund B
Shreevats Goswam B
Tanmay Srivastava B
Manish Pandey B
Taruvar Kohli UC
Ravindra Jadeja UC
Saurav Tiwary B
D Shivkumar ?
Pradeep Sangwan MC
Siddarth Kaul B
Ajitesh Argal UC?
Napoleon Einstein None
Perry Goyal UC?
Iqbal Abdulla. None

UC-upper caste (non-brahmin), B-Brahmin, MC- Middle caste (not official name)

[Bhayya]

[quote name='Alexander' timestamp='1320561436' post='3068339']
MS Dhoni lower caste anta. [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]... raasinodiki puraanalu theliyavu anukunta or caste system theliyadhu...
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jharkand la kuda mana laagane untaya caste lu [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img] k k r [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]

[Yuva Nataratna]

[quote name='k2s' timestamp='1320560713' post='3068309']
1 sentence lo seppu edaina,........
[/quote]

1 sentence lo kavala.......

"k2s is a uncle with two kids"......chaala.......

[Jambhalheart]

[quote name='subba rav' timestamp='1320561403' post='3068336']

Em le daddy, Indian cricket team la caste ni chooshi selection ayitadi, only [u][b]bapans [/b][/u]ni select chestaru ani oka australian raashindu [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]
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chinna correction : bapans kaadu brahmins ani anali

[Bhayya]

[quote name='Yuva Nataratna' timestamp='1320562015' post='3068365']
Under 19 team with their caste specified when this article was written.........

Name Caste
Virat Kohli (capt) UC
Abhinav Mukund B
Shreevats Goswam B
Tanmay Srivastava B
Manish Pandey B
Taruvar Kohli UC
Ravindra Jadeja UC
Saurav Tiwary B
D Shivkumar ?
Pradeep Sangwan MC
Siddarth Kaul B
Ajitesh Argal UC?
Napoleon Einstein None
Perry Goyal UC?
Iqbal Abdulla. None

UC-upper caste (non-brahmin), B-Brahmin, MC- Middle caste (not official name)
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They won the world cup [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]... Topic finished...

[tom bhayya]

[quote name='subba rav' timestamp='1320562027' post='3068366']

jharkand la kuda mana laagane untaya caste lu [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img] k k r [img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]
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rav gaaru UP, Rajasthan, ilaanti northen sttes la mana la mudugu lo guddhulaata undadhu direct attack.. private company classifieds lo direct ga specify chesthaaru if u r not so and cast you need not apply ani...[img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img][img]http://www.desigifs.com/sites/default/files/bemmi.lol5_.gif?1290450399[/img]

[k2s]

[quote name='Yuva Nataratna' timestamp='1320562099' post='3068372']

1 sentence lo kavala.......

"k2s is a uncle with two kids"......chaala.......
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