Calling Benzbabu Doubt About Hindutva And Sanathana Dharma

[kidmakers]

[quote name='charygaru' timestamp='1320730443' post='3073907']

malla ee classification endi vayya kshatriya , brahamna , sudra vaishya are the four varnas kada?

arent those a part of our culture or am i confusin it with something else o.O
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yeah baa.. that is the four varnas i am talking about.. and its how mankind was divided initially.

[ROUDRAM]

[quote name='kidmakers' timestamp='1320730518' post='3073908']


yeah.. he is partially right.. i dont agree much with the second point though.. what islam said is the same all religions would do. even Budhdha also made a set of rules and those who follow his principles are considered Budhdhists right.. ??
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exactly but thats not case with Hindus ...no one wrote those in the beginning.... they were taken from the best practices of the daily life

[kidmakers]

[quote name='ROUDRAM' timestamp='1320730531' post='3073909']


hmmm... idi koncham thinkalsinde .. I heard an entirely different version
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cheppu baa.. may be i am wrong.. adhe cheppa ga.. as per my knowledge ani.. long time ago eppudo chadivi unta.. what u heard.. ??

[ROUDRAM]

[quote name='kidmakers' timestamp='1320730633' post='3073914']


cheppu baa.. may be i am wrong.. adhe cheppa ga.. as per my knowledge ani.. long time ago eppudo chadivi unta.. what u heard.. ??
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emo nenu kuda oka sari ma dad to matladi confirm chesukovali

[kidmakers]

[quote name='ROUDRAM' timestamp='1320730624' post='3073913']

exactly but thats not case with Hindus ...no one wrote those in the beginning.... they were taken from the best practices of the daily life
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No benz.. not all the principles are taken from dharma preachings.. only a certain things which help you to lead a pious life are taken from it. Hindutva derives its principles not only from Sanathana dharma, but a lot of other scriptures like geetha, bharatha, ramayana etc. A king can kill a person before he attempts to kill. This is the principle from geetha and mahabharatha.. but not from dharma literature.

[ROUDRAM]

[quote name='kidmakers' timestamp='1320730771' post='3073918']


No benz.. not all the principles are taken from dharma preachings.. only a certain things which help you to lead a pious life are taken from it. Hindutva derives its principles not only from Sanathana dharma, but a lot of other scriptures like geetha, bharatha, ramayana etc. A king can kill a person before he attempts to kill. This is the principle from geetha and mahabharatha.. but not from dharma literature.
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but should'nt the king consult the brahmin ( minster) before he makes any decision ... isnt that the beauty of Hinduism... checks and balances

[ROUDRAM]

[quote name='kidmakers' timestamp='1320730771' post='3073918']


No benz.. not all the principles are taken from dharma preachings.. only a certain things which help you to lead a pious life are taken from it. Hindutva derives its principles not only from Sanathana dharma, but a lot of other scriptures like geetha, bharatha, ramayana etc. A king can kill a person before he attempts to kill. This is the principle from geetha and mahabharatha.. but not from dharma literature.
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so u mean to say Hinduism has evolved only in Kaliyuga ??

[kidmakers]

[quote name='ROUDRAM' timestamp='1320730878' post='3073919']


but should'nt the king consult the brahmin ( minster) before he makes any decision ... isnt that the beauty of Hinduism... checks and balances
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yeah.. that is too.. i mean when you get deep into every principle, there is an underlying responsibility and u have to answer about that act to someone at some point of time.

king rama did it when he killed Vaali. He explained the reason why it is not wrong to kill Vaali from behind the tree.. Ideal man u see..

[charygaru]

[quote name='ROUDRAM' timestamp='1320730940' post='3073921']


so u mean to say Hinduism has evolved only in Kaliyuga ??
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exactly my point !! vashishtudi tarvatha hinduism osthe anthaku mundu unna valla sangatendi ?

[kidmakers]

[quote name='ROUDRAM' timestamp='1320730940' post='3073921']


so u mean to say Hinduism has evolved only in Kaliyuga ??
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I mean.. i assume. I haven't precisely seen that statement anywhere.

[kidmakers]

[quote name='charygaru' timestamp='1320731043' post='3073924']

exactly my point !! vashishtudi tarvatha hinduism osthe anthaku mundu unna valla sangatendi ?
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anthaku mundhu they are sages. most of the people of them are bramhins according to manusmruthi.

[charygaru]

[quote name='kidmakers' timestamp='1320730990' post='3073923']


yeah.. that is too.. i mean when you get deep into every principle, there is an underlying responsibility and u have to answer about that act to someone at some point of time.

[b][size=5]king rama did it when he killed Vaali.[/size][/b] He explained the reason why it is not wrong to kill Vaali from behind the tree.. Ideal man u see..
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vaali ki edurugu ga unna manishi balam lo sagam ochhesthadi ani edo varam untadi kada baa ! and also in his prior life he wants to fight vishnu who said he will fight in someother avatar and explains the same when vali is dying kada o.O

[ROUDRAM]

[quote name='kidmakers' timestamp='1320731058' post='3073925']


I mean.. i assume. I haven't precisely seen that statement anywhere.
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mari mahabhratam lo cheptadu kada... Haindava dharman prakram surya chandulu kalisinappudu ( eclipse) shiro mundanam cheyinchukovali nai

by haindava dharam.. cant we infer it as hinduism

[kidmakers]

[quote name='charygaru' timestamp='1320731175' post='3073927']

vaali ki edurugu ga unna manishi balam lo sagam ochhesthadi ani edo varam untadi kada baa ! and also in his prior life he wants to fight vishnu who said he will fight in someother avatar and explains the same when vali is dying kada o.O
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Ya.. thats right too. But killing someone by hiding behind the tree is considered as Adharma right? That's the quesiton Vaali rises.. and Rama answers.

[charygaru]

[quote name='kidmakers' timestamp='1320731100' post='3073926']


anthaku mundhu they are sages. [b][size=6]most of the people of them are bramhins according to manusmruthi.[/size][/b]
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so naaulugu varnalu kuda bramhans nunchi ochhinatte annamata aithe appudu deep down inside they are still bramhins kada malla kshatriya rakhtam ledu inka manalo adi antha rinchi poyindi adi idi ani pedda aavida enduku hurt aythundi ??