Spartan Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 In the oral storytelling traditions of the Braja Mandala area of India, I believe that the reason why is a great deal of attention was paid in Indian culture to astrological compatibility and still is today actually. There are ten points of agreement and for a marriage to be successful has to be at least 50% agreement. Radha and Krsna wanted to marry but grandmother Paurnamasi said that they did not match up properly astrologically for long term marital happiness. Thus in some traditions it is said that they did have a secret gandharva's wedding ceremony and even if I am not mistaken Srila Jiva Goswami has said as much: that they gave their hearts to each other in a charming forest ceremony, they did not formally wed due to grandmother Paurnamasi advising against it. To be good match astrologically for marriage certain aspects are looked at for wealth, health, children, long life, and other types of long term stabilizing influences. However to be head over heels crazy in love with someone in astrology deals more with the planets of Venus which rules aesthetics and beauty and the attraction we feel for another person by how they look and behave and smell etc. If you read the descriptions of Their attraction for each other it had that type of energy of Venus the Goddess of Love aka Mighty Aphrodite in Western culture.
Spartan Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Posted October 25, 2012 I may be mistaken so I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong. Radhika was born blind and She did not open Her eyes. Then when Krsna was born about a month later then His parents took Him over to Radhika's parents house to show off their new baby boy. When Radhika heard the ankle bells of Krsna She became very interested looking in His direction even though She was blind. And as He crawled closer and closer to Her then the fragrance of His Body was so overwhelmingly sweet and blissful and nectarean to her that She opened Her eyes. So that the first thing She ever saw was Krsna. There's some good stories like this online all about their leelas and it also explains the siddhanta or reasoning behind the fact that in actuality They are never separated. In a nutshell there are actually three Radhas: one the original Radhika who never leaves Vrndavana and the original Krsna never leaves Vrndavana also. Then there is an esoteric Sanskrit name for when it seems as if Krsna leaves Vrndavana and goes to Mathura and Dwaraka; but it is not the original Krsna that leaves, it is His expansion. And an expansion of Radhika leaves also, that is who Satyabhama and Rukmini are if I am not mistaken. Goes something like this: God and Goddess very much like us and love to play. Didn't you love to play when you were little kid? And you see little kids and always playing? So Krsna is eternally youthful ever fresh, so He has very playful nature as does Radhika. So as a kid remember you love to dress up and act things out? And play doctor and play dead and play marriage and so on? Play store and play so many things? So is a way that God and Goddess have some fun together. Like do you know any people who are actors or actresses? Did you ever hang out with these people who live for acting? Or ever read about celebrities they love acting so much and only come alive and live for when they are acting and in a new role? So God and Goddess have those same tendencies also. Or did you ever hear about people spice up their marriage pretending they are not married to each other when really they are? "Honey let's meet at such and such a place and pretend I don't know you..." They do it just so it is not so boring, for variety. So God and Goddess have all the tendencies we have also, like how humans enjoy to see Shakespeare plays and to even better act in them. So even better than that you write the play, you direct it, you produce it, you star in it and you cast all your relatives in it! Basically that is what God and Goddess aer doing. They are so clever and fun-loving and super-ultra sophisticated! Any celebrity you read about them, after acting they want to direct. Then after directing they want to produce. And the best if can do all and they hire their relatives also. Like Clint Eastwood did this and many others also. So God and Goddess have this tendency. And They are never, ever separated, so don't you worry about that for even one moment!!! One reason why They do these leelas is to trick you. Already you are feeling for God. Well isn't that sweet! You are worrying about God and Goddess, you want Them to be together. That is the manjari mood. You think the rules are stupid and you understand that love is the highest not social conventions. So already you have earned alot of sukritya if you are wishing for God and Goddess to be united together and forever. Then if you meditate like this with a pure heart then you can become part of these leelas. One great saint even wrote beautiful song, "Radhika's happiness is all that is all I care about". So if you have this mood of to keep Them separated is a stupid idea then perhaps you internally are in this sampradaya of the maidservants of Radhika. This is the song of one saint in the line of manjaris best friends of Radhika: BRSABHANU SUTA by Bhaktivinode Thakura For serving the lotus feet of the daughter of King Brsabhanu, I will become Her maidservant and constantly strive to bring Her all happiness... The sahkis [female friends of Radhika] are my supreme well-wishers and gurus regarding the loving affairs of the Divine Couple. Under their guidance [the female friends of Radhika], I will serve Sri Radha's lotus feet which are like wish-fulfilling trees... Because the original Radhika and Krsna stay in Vrndavana, then Their mood of Teenaged Crush Love never dies. It always has the mood of very focused on each other. When people get married and have children they usually their love for each other gets spread out to children and grandchildren and diffused. Radha and Krsna got to experience this also when They expanded Themselves into Rukmini and Krsna, Laksmi and Narayana, and so on.
Vivian_afdb Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 haaa chusa aaa post............devullaki mayalu mantharalu vachu kadha they can do mayamantram and change kadha manam kashtam pogottamani pray chestham kadha....mana kashtalu terchinappudu y not his own?
Spartan Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Posted October 25, 2012 [quote name='Vivian_afdb' timestamp='1351189350' post='1302689438'] haaa chusa aaa post............devullaki mayalu mantharalu vachu kadha they can do mayamantram and change kadha manam kashtam pogottamani pray chestham kadha....mana kashtalu terchinappudu y not his own? [/quote] Earth meeda vahcaka..devudu kuda saamanya manavude.......it doesnt mean that he can alter everything.....or anything at his convinence...
Vivian_afdb Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 [quote name='ChittiNaidu' timestamp='1351189264' post='1302689421'] I may be mistaken so I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong. Radhika was born blind and She did not open Her eyes. Then when Krsna was born about a month later then His parents took Him over to Radhika's parents house to show off their new baby boy. When Radhika heard the ankle bells of Krsna She became very interested looking in His direction even though She was blind. And as He crawled closer and closer to Her then the fragrance of His Body was so overwhelmingly sweet and blissful and nectarean to her that She opened Her eyes. So that the first thing She ever saw was Krsna. There's some good stories like this online all about their leelas and it also explains the siddhanta or reasoning behind the fact that in actuality They are never separated. In a nutshell there are actually three Radhas: one the original Radhika who never leaves Vrndavana and the original Krsna never leaves Vrndavana also. Then there is an esoteric Sanskrit name for when it seems as if Krsna leaves Vrndavana and goes to Mathura and Dwaraka; but it is not the original Krsna that leaves, it is His expansion. And an expansion of Radhika leaves also, that is who Satyabhama and Rukmini are if I am not mistaken. Goes something like this: God and Goddess very much like us and love to play. Didn't you love to play when you were little kid? And you see little kids and always playing? So Krsna is eternally youthful ever fresh, so He has very playful nature as does Radhika. So as a kid remember you love to dress up and act things out? And play doctor and play dead and play marriage and so on? Play store and play so many things? So is a way that God and Goddess have some fun together. Like do you know any people who are actors or actresses? Did you ever hang out with these people who live for acting? Or ever read about celebrities they love acting so much and only come alive and live for when they are acting and in a new role? So God and Goddess have those same tendencies also. Or did you ever hear about people spice up their marriage pretending they are not married to each other when really they are? "Honey let's meet at such and such a place and pretend I don't know you..." They do it just so it is not so boring, for variety. So God and Goddess have all the tendencies we have also, like how humans enjoy to see Shakespeare plays and to even better act in them. So even better than that you write the play, you direct it, you produce it, you star in it and you cast all your relatives in it! Basically that is what God and Goddess aer doing. They are so clever and fun-loving and super-ultra sophisticated! Any celebrity you read about them, after acting they want to direct. Then after directing they want to produce. And the best if can do all and they hire their relatives also. Like Clint Eastwood did this and many others also. So God and Goddess have this tendency. And They are never, ever separated, so don't you worry about that for even one moment!!! One reason why They do these leelas is to trick you. Already you are feeling for God. Well isn't that sweet! You are worrying about God and Goddess, you want Them to be together. That is the manjari mood. You think the rules are stupid and you understand that love is the highest not social conventions. So already you have earned alot of sukritya if you are wishing for God and Goddess to be united together and forever. Then if you meditate like this with a pure heart then you can become part of these leelas. One great saint even wrote beautiful song, "Radhika's happiness is all that is all I care about". So if you have this mood of to keep Them separated is a stupid idea then perhaps you internally are in this sampradaya of the maidservants of Radhika. This is the song of one saint in the line of manjaris best friends of Radhika: BRSABHANU SUTA by Bhaktivinode Thakura For serving the lotus feet of the daughter of King Brsabhanu, I will become Her maidservant and constantly strive to bring Her all happiness... The sahkis [female friends of Radhika] are my supreme well-wishers and gurus regarding the loving affairs of the Divine Couple. Under their guidance [the female friends of Radhika], I will serve Sri Radha's lotus feet which are like wish-fulfilling trees... Because the original Radhika and Krsna stay in Vrndavana, then Their mood of Teenaged Crush Love never dies.[b] It always has the mood of very focused on each other. When people get married and have children they usually their love for each other gets spread out to children and grandchildren and diffused[/b]. Radha and Krsna got to experience this also when They expanded Themselves into Rukmini and Krsna, Laksmi and Narayana, and so on. [/quote]
Vivian_afdb Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 [quote name='ChittiNaidu' timestamp='1351189436' post='1302689450'] Earth meeda vahcaka..devudu kuda saamanya manavude.......it doesnt mean that he can alter everything.....or anything at his convinence... [/quote] jathakam ki remedies unatayi antaru kadha
Spartan Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Posted October 25, 2012 [quote name='Vivian_afdb' timestamp='1351189501' post='1302689459'] [/quote] y lauphing..
Vivian_afdb Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 [quote name='ChittiNaidu' timestamp='1351189569' post='1302689467'] y lauphing.. [/quote] bold chudu.....grand kida dhaka diffuses ante navu vachindhi
Spartan Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Posted October 25, 2012 [quote name='Vivian_afdb' timestamp='1351189554' post='1302689465'] jathakam ki remedies unatayi antaru kadha [/quote] remedies..avanni bisket lite...avi manam create cheskunanvi... one more story..recent ga chusa tv lo.. Sati devi...roopam lo Shivudu..pelli cheskuntadu kada....and Sati dies at her fathers place during the Yaaga.. dani reason enti ante.. 1) Shivudu...Aadi shakti ni pelli cheskovali...so Sati roopam lo puttaka..to Prajapati Daksh...she was not amture enough to handle the eternal meaning of life..and not suitable to Shiva.. 2) Sati valla dad ki...Shivudu ante enemy...so he didnt want to marry off his daughter to him..so appudu..kavalani..durmuhurtam lo valla pelli cheyistadu...anduke they marriage doesnt last long... 3) Brihaspati..etc vallanta munde telsu..that vallidari jatakalu match avvavu...u shudnt marry ani...kaani vinaru kada....
ChampakDas Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 god is omnipresent and omnipotent mama....puranalo gods kindhaki vachi humans tho half god half humans ni kuticharu antaru...even if it is not true..he is present everywhere and is all power everywhere [quote name='ChittiNaidu' timestamp='1351189436' post='1302689450'] [b]Earth meeda vahcaka..devudu kuda saamanya manavude[/b].......it doesnt mean that he can alter everything.....or anything at his convinence... [/quote]
Spartan Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Posted October 25, 2012 [quote name='Vivian_afdb' timestamp='1351189652' post='1302689480'] bold chudu.....grand kida dhaka diffuses ante navu vachindhi [/quote]
ChampakDas Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 indhulo navadaniki em undhi? [quote name='Vivian_afdb' timestamp='1351189501' post='1302689459'] [/quote]
Spartan Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Posted October 25, 2012 [quote name='ChampakDas' timestamp='1351189753' post='1302689489'] god is omnipresent and omnipotent mama....puranalo gods kindhaki vachi humans tho half god half humans ni kuticharu antaru...even if it is not true..he is present everywhere and is all power everywhere [/quote] hmm...kaani when on earth..I see them as normal human beings..with extra ordinary intellect ante.....
ChampakDas Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 its just the quintessential delusion...ratha rasedhi devudu dani marchadam impossible [quote name='Vivian_afdb' timestamp='1351189554' post='1302689465'] jathakam ki remedies unatayi antaru kadha [/quote]
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