vikuba Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='tupaki007' timestamp='1353089167' post='1302807886'] nuvvu triangle ni flip chesaav baagaane vundhi, two questions for you, 1) nuvvu apply chesina rule is valid in only one case, if the triangle with sides √(x^2 + y^2) and √(y^2 + t^2) and (x+t) is also a right angle triangle. 2) oka angle 90 and migathaavi anni proportion ani declare chesaav,angle 90 annadi voppukunthaanu, aa symbol right angle ani maaku kuda telusu, eda vunnaay proportion lo migathaavi, bomma ni chusi proportion lo vundhi ani decide chesesthaavaa, inka nayam scale petti kolichi chepthaanu analedu t value entho. pyna 1st point chuudu, nuvvu vaadina x/y = y/t rule valid avvaali antha aa py point lo vunna triangle kuda right angle avvaali, appudu daaniki two angles common lo vunthaay, and altitude same vunthadi renditiki so aaa case lo similar triangles avuthaay, nuvvu vesina article ni malli baagaa chadivi ardham chesuko [/quote] ilanti math discussions face to face untey better argue cheyochu... thread starter has confirmed the answer...the assumptions i made were strong enough to support my answer... so chuck the math and the discussion. you have raised good points .....but when the triangles are sharing the same altitude wit each other...they would be similar triangles.
LOGON Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='tupaki007' timestamp='1353089167' post='1302807886'] nuvvu triangle ni flip chesaav baagaane vundhi, two questions for you, 1) nuvvu apply chesina rule is valid in only one case, if the triangle with sides √(x^2 + y^2) and √(y^2 + t^2) and (x+t) is also a right angle triangle. 2) oka angle 90 and migathaavi anni proportion ani declare chesaav,angle 90 annadi voppukunthaanu, aa symbol right angle ani maaku kuda telusu, eda vunnaay proportion lo migathaavi, bomma ni chusi proportion lo vundhi ani decide chesesthaavaa, inka nayam scale petti kolichi chepthaanu analedu t value entho. pyna 1st point chuudu, [b]nuvvu vaadina x/y = y/t rule valid avvaali antha aa py point lo vunna triangle kuda right angle avvaali[/b], appudu daaniki two angles common lo vunthaay, and altitude same vunthadi renditiki so aaa case lo similar triangles avuthaay, nuvvu vesina article ni malli baagaa chadivi ardham chesuko [/quote] agreed... t is arbitrary and value can only be found if the angle has been provided.. manodu t=y^2/x formula tho t ki okate value undi ani chepthundu.. say as an example.. 3,4,5 is traingle, so t value in this case would be.. 16/3 which is not correct.. t can be any value on length x..
tupaki007 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='Aamphat' timestamp='1353090960' post='1302808073'] ilanti math discussions face to face untey better argue cheyochu... thread starter has confirmed the answer...the assumptions i made were strong enough to support my answer... so chuck the math and the discussion. you have raised good points .....but when the triangles are sharing the same altitude wit each other...they would be similar triangles. [/quote] I don't see the thread starter confirming this is the answer, he asked this question as he had a doubt, and he took your advice that it'd work, but it won't work!!! naaku ikkada photo teesi veytaaniki allow cheyatham ledu, kaneesam explain cheddaam antha, you are assuming the big triangle is also a right triangle, so y^2 = t * x is valid for very specific cases, i.e when the outer triangle is also a right angle triangle (i mean the triangle in your diagram after flipping, the bigger one that encloses the smaller ones). [b]"If two triangles have the same altitude with each other they would be similar triangles" -- [/b]this is absolutely wrong, you cannot just make statements without proper proof or basis, I can draw 100 triangles with same altitude but not similar. you are taking one example where that is the case and giving a statement applying to all the cases. go to wikipedia and search for triangle, it has similar triangle rules as follows: [list] [*]If two corresponding internal angles of two triangles have the same measure, the triangles are similar. [*]If two corresponding sides of two triangles are in proportion, and their included angles have the same measure, then the triangles are similar. (The [i]included angle[/i] for any two sides of a polygon is the internal angle between those two sides.) [*]If three corresponding sides of two triangles are in proportion, then the triangles are similar. [/list] Just incase if wikipedia has missed the rule that you just gave please modify the wikipedia page too.
tupaki007 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='LOGON' timestamp='1353091962' post='1302808223'] agreed... t is arbitrary and value can only be found if the angle has been provided.. manodu t=y^2/x formula tho t ki okate value undi ani chepthundu.. say as an example.. 3,4,5 is traingle, so t value in this case would be.. 16/3 which is not correct.. t can be any value on length x.. [/quote] hammayyaaaa finally okkadu annaa ardham chesukunnaadu na ghosha
vizag Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='cavaliers' timestamp='1352736066' post='1302783125'] Guys, I have the coordinates X and Y. Is there a way we can find t? Thanks. [/quote] No, you cannot find 't' as it can be any value<x without affecting the rest of the known values. You can only find out t with any known relationship to x, y, or the angle concerned to it. 1
tupaki007 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Posted November 16, 2012 [quote name='vizag' timestamp='1353108126' post='1302811726'] No, you cannot find 't' as it can be any value<x without affecting the rest of the known values. You can only find out t with any known relationship to x, y, or the angle concerned to it. [/quote] hammayya, ma voter la jabitha peruguthumde
LOGON Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='tupaki007' timestamp='1353107429' post='1302811507'] hammayyaaaa finally okkadu annaa ardham chesukunnaadu na ghosha [/quote] nenu ade cheppina vayya,,
LOGON Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 [quote name='vizag' timestamp='1353108126' post='1302811726'] No, you cannot find 't' as it can be any value<x without affecting the rest of the known values. You can only find out t with any known relationship to x, y, or the angle concerned to it. [/quote] agreed...
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