shoplifting...Please Advice.!!!

[BackbenchBoyy]

Mama, Probably i'm the best person to answer this...not bcoz i shop lifted.. hehe...
1. wat will exactly happen is...there will be a prosecution and you dont have to pay for a lawyer bcoz u will get a public defender for free....
2. u ll pay wat ever money u have stolen....
3. there wont't be jail tym for sure (99%)
4. there ll be a certain amount of money u have to pay as a fine (OR/AND) you have to doonate a certain amount of money to the charity(OR/AND) you have to do some hours of community service(around 24-40)

Probably this is a misdemeanor and not a criminal charge
SO , if this a misdemeanor you just have to go through a process called EXPUNGING
in this process after you serve the sentence i.e., pay the fine, donate some money and so some hours of service....you can apply to the court that I wont repeat this ani chepthe....they wil take off of the criminal record. then this record wont be visible to the employers...
IT IS ONLY VISIBLE TO THE FEDERAL AGENTS...like police

[nenuinthe]

[quote author=Adolf Hitler link=topic=43503.msg392835#msg392835 date=1266809644]
what if that manager is a racist? malli police complaint chesthey? bribe cheyyadaaniki chusaaru ani? also...i dont think negotiating term will work out when the matter is legal. maa coll lo plagiarise chestheyney vadilipttaledhu okadini....attantidi...bayata shop vaadu vadulthaadaa....aaa news bayataki vasthey inka janam cheyyakunda untaaru ani aina sarey vadaladu...

good thing is, value of the thing lifted is less here and i guess this is the only crime this guy made in USA. all these could help him and make him come out of the trouble "IF YOU GO LEGALLY THROUGH A GOOD LAWYER"

i am not sure though. ultimately its his (individual) decision to decide how to act, coz he is the one who is gonna face.
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RACIST antunavu..intaki a STORE manadi kada...

[texas1234]

@ ALL..
ivvani suggestions vadiki repu cheptham memu....donno asalu wat do anedi...maa school kuda antha peddadi kaadu Judicial services undataniki, may b international office or DSO tho discuss cheyochu....
manager tho matladatam kuda maa vallu lite antunaru....oka vela vadu lite undunte silent ga akkade idi deal ani discuss chesunde vadu...cops vacharu kabatti....it will be decided in court....Pray him guys that he don't go to jail.

[veeruN]

baabu....mee friend ki cheppandi....emi kaadu....first timers ki general ga fines to vadilestaru....pedda pedda offences ke first timers ani fine vestaru....naaku telisina friend vunnadu....taagi drive chestu...police meedaki vellapoyadu....kaani court lo genuine gaa nenu tappu chesanu ani cheppi...judge ni plead chesadu...nenu international student ani...naa records ki, jobs ki effect kaakunda help cheyyandi ani....appudu judge fine vesi..records lo case erase chesaru....

deeni kante mee friend chesinadu....chaaaala chinna offense....don't worry

[Adolf Hitler]

[quote author=BackbenchBoyy link=topic=43503.msg392838#msg392838 date=1266809722]
Mama, Probably i'm the best person to answer this...not bcoz i shop lifted.. hehe...
1. wat will exactly happen is...there will be a prosecution and you dont have to pay for a lawyer bcoz u will get a public defender for free....
2. u ll pay wat ever money u have stolen....
3. there wont't be jail tym for sure (99%)
4. there ll be a certain amount of money u have to pay as a fine (OR/AND) you have to doonate a certain amount of money to the charity(OR/AND) you have to do some hours of community service(around 24-40)

Probably this is a misdemeanor and not a criminal charge,
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yes....it looks like misdemeanor.....value takkuva antunnadu kadaa.....manager gaadu yekkuva anthey inka argue cheyyalsi vastadhi.

[BackbenchBoyy]

Mama, Probably i'm the best person to answer this...not bcoz i shop lifted.. hehe...
1. wat will exactly happen is...there will be a prosecution and you dont have to pay for a lawyer bcoz u will get a public defender for free....
2. u ll pay wat ever money u have stolen....
3. there wont't be jail tym for sure (99%)
4. there ll be a certain amount of money u have to pay as a fine (OR/AND) you have to doonate a certain amount of money to the charity(OR/AND) you have to do some hours of community service(around 24-40)

Probably this is a misdemeanor and not a criminal charge
SO , if this a misdemeanor you just have to go through a process called EXPUNGING
in this process after you serve the sentence i.e., pay the fine, donate some money and so some hours of service....you can apply to the court that I wont repeat this ani chepthe....they wil take off of the criminal record. then this record wont be visible to the employers...
IT IS ONLY VISIBLE TO THE FEDERAL AGENTS...like police

[texas1234]

@ BackbenchBoyy

thnks mama....v r also assuming these kind off sentences. But worst case lo alochisthe tension padthunadu jail or future lo jobs and stuff.

[BackbenchBoyy]

[quote author=Adolf Hitler link=topic=43503.msg392843#msg392843 date=1266809908]
yes....it looks like misdemeanor.....value takkuva antunnadu kadaa.....manager gaadu yekkuva anthey inka argue cheyyalsi vastadhi.
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it doesn;t depend on the value mama.....they have some other criteria.... but i think shoplifting is definitely misdemeanor...
bcoz ee thellollu thega chestuntaru..criminal aithe cheyyaru kada cheers12w

[dingbat]

[quote author=texas1234 link=topic=43503.msg392840#msg392840 date=1266809810]
@ ALL..
ivvani suggestions vadiki repu cheptham memu....donno asalu wat do anedi...maa school kuda antha peddadi kaadu Judicial services undataniki, may b international office or DSO tho discuss cheyochu....
manager tho matladatam kuda maa vallu lite antunaru....oka vela vadu lite undunte silent ga akkade idi deal ani discuss chesunde vadu...cops vacharu kabatti....it will be decided in court....Pray him guys that he don't go to jail.
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Definite ga mama em avadu, mee frd ni dhiryam ga undamanu. goodsvalue takkuve kabatti em kaadu.
Inthaki Court Hearing date eppudu.

[Technikfreak]

I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Hope he has learned his lesson. Coming to the point,

1. Shoplifting is defined as a larceny in Virginia. The value of the merchandise will determine if his shoplifting charge is going to be charged as a petit (petty) larceny or grand larceny in Virginia.
2. If the value of the good stolen is valued at $200 or more, then the person accused of shoplifting is facing a [color=red][b]grand larceny charge[/b][/color] in Virginia.
3. If the value of the good stolen is valued less than $200, then the person accused of shoplifting is facing a [b][color=red]petit (petty) larceny charge[/color][/b] in Virginia.
4. Shoplifting cases in Virginia are frequently actually charged under the Virginia concealment statute. The concealment statute makes it a larceny to conceal merchandise or alter the price tag of merchandise, in order to take the merchandise.

If he is charged with shoplifting, the penalties are very serious and the punishments imposed by the court can be very harsh.
The precise penalty you will face in court depends upon the type of Virginia shoplifting charge you are charged with, the facts of your case, and your prior record.

[b][color=red]Petty larceny[/color][/b]
• Misdemeanor
• Up to 1 year in jail
• Up to a $2,500 fine
[b][color=red]Grand larceny[/color][/b]
• Felony
• Up to 20 years in jail

Even though if his shoplifting charge has been dismissed, what he's not told is that it can still come back to haunt him.
Why?
Because, even if the shoplifting charge is dismissed, your criminal record reflects that he received a first time offender treatment because you have to enter a plea of guilty to get this treatment.

THIS CAN STILL RESULT IN LOSS OF YOUR SECURITY CLEARANCE AND IT ALSO MAY HAVE IMMIGRATION CONSEQUENCES DEPENDING ON YOUR IMMIGRATION STATUS.

some jurisdictions like Prince William County do not have first time offender treatment option for shoplifting.
The Prince William County judges impose a 2 day jail sentence for even the first offense of shoplifting in Prince William County, Virginia.

[BackbenchBoyy]

[quote author=texas1234 link=topic=43503.msg392849#msg392849 date=1266810196]
@ BackbenchBoyy

thnks mama....v r also assuming these kind off sentences. But worst case lo alochisthe tension padthunadu jail or future lo jobs and stuff.
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no mama....jobs ki etuvanti prob undadu...once the expunging process ends......JAIL lo pettedi unte appude pettevalu...so both R OUT OF QUESTION

[texas1234]

@ Adolf
evadu chesthe em undi maa onki ki siggu lekunda chesindu ippudu feel aithundu....Gods grace valla jail sentence leka pothe save aipothadi papam.

[texas1234]

court date next month 4th week lo undi

[Technikfreak]

Virginia has programs in place where the accused can often plead guilty in exchange for restitution (paying back the victim) and community service.

[BackbenchBoyy]

@adolf.... sorry dude.... I WAS WRONG ....
@technik.... good work man....but the 1 yr sentence is an extreme case.... i dont think the case right now is that complicated..coz the guy is pleading guilty and its just freakin 60 $..i think