Khadgam Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 They are under more scruitiny than any others in the team. Even the garbage non-performers like Ro*hit sharma etc...rarely get noticed at the expense of scruitiny on Openers. Openers are under immense pressure to perform in each and every match unlike bunch of others lower down the order. If they don't have the captain's support, they are gone. If the captain is broad enough to best utilize the naturally gifted players like Viru, he could have been dropped him down the batting order until he regains his form and fitness (inplace of stupids like Ro*hit or Jadja). But, that's not gonna happen especially with Dhoni out there. Thokkalo 2015 plans antaaru, its not the age you should consider, matter unda leda anedi chudaali, that's how Aussies won 3 back-to-back WCs (with average age of their players well above 30). Anthenduku, if you see Dhoni, he never promotes him up the order, because as a batsman goes up the order, the scruitiny increases. In Ind-Pak series, he should have batted one-down, with the form he is in, but he dared not...well that explains. This applies to One-down batsman as well, to some extent (which is why the great Rahul Dravid was also a scapegoat). [b][color=#ff0000]These are my thoughts after seeing the disrepect the legends, the only two double centurions in the histoty of ODI cricket recieved, just for being Indian openers. Sachin's case was some what better, he was persuaded to retire. But, Viru's case -its pure disrespect, forgetting all his match winning innings, pure STUPIDITY. This is not good for the game. Ganguly offcourse falls under same category.[/color][/b] Viru... ...will savour your batting forever..you NEVER deserved a DROP. Stupid Management stupid captain...if they continue this insanity..no indian will watch cricket in future.. [img]http://eenadu.net/Sports/6sp3a.jpg[/img]
Jatka Bandi Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 Return of the Titan in Australia.... and migata iddarini teesi padeyyali....
girishv Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 rasindo evaro hard core sehwag fan anukunta...past performance chupinchi enni days team lo untadu? vadu limited overs lo batting chesthunnadu ante eppudu out avuthado anipisthundi...he might be a good player, but he is not consistent...vadi performance drastic ga drop ayindi last 1 yr lo....
faf Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='30 yrs industry' timestamp='1357510038' post='1303063634'] rasindo evaro hard core sehwag fan anukunta...past performance chupinchi enni days team lo untadu? vadu limited overs lo batting chesthunnadu ante eppudu out avuthado anipisthundi...he might be a good player, but he is not consistent...vadi performance drastic ga drop ayindi last 1 yr lo.... [/quote] Zaheer, Sehwag gone..Gambhir, next in line... ha ha
Khadgam Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='30 yrs industry' timestamp='1357510038' post='1303063634'] rasindo evaro hard core sehwag fan anukunta...past performance chupinchi enni days team lo untadu? vadu limited overs lo batting chesthunnadu ante eppudu out avuthado anipisthundi...he might be a good player, but he is not consistent...vadi performance drastic ga drop ayindi last 1 yr lo.... [/quote] Raasindi nene...vaadiki cheppukodaaniki past records ayina unnai...kaani my point is we are overlooking many non-performers...do you have a point to justy that? P.S: Don't pivot this in to fanatism debate. Its true analysis on opening batsman. Not just Sehwag.
girishv Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='Khadgam' timestamp='1357510274' post='1303063643'] Raasindi nene...vaadiki cheppukodaaniki past records ayina unnai...kaani my point is we are overlooking many non-performers...do you have a point to justy that? [/quote] i still wonder why rohit sharma is in the team...migitha vallu not bad...not only sehwag, gambhir kuda perform cheyadam ledu...same mistakes again and again....either run-out or caught behind...england series lo perform cheyakapothe vadini kuda drop chestharu....left hander top of the order lo okadu unte better ani chusthunnaru.... and one more thing, perform cheyakapothe, senior player ni kuda drop chestham ani clear ga chepparu selectors...so evari place permanent kadu....better perform or perish....
Khadgam Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='30 yrs industry' timestamp='1357510606' post='1303063650'] i still wonder why rohit sharma is in the team...migitha vallu not bad...not only sehwag, gambhir kuda perform cheyadam ledu...same mistakes again and again....either run-out or caught behind...england series lo perform cheyakapothe vadini kuda drop chestharu....left hander top of the order lo okadu unte better ani chusthunnaru.... and one more thing, [color=#ff0000][b]perform cheyakapothe, senior player ni kuda drop chestham [/b][/color]ani clear ga chepparu selectors...so evari place permanent kadu....better perform or perish.... [/quote] I agree to red, but before that they should define a threshold for "performace", if you look at the avarages in Ind-pak series, pathetic......then why only Sehwag. At least he has natural talent. My point again is more of a constructive critisism, Captain should have tried Sehwag down the order, Sehwag also doesn't have any problem doing that, as he said in the past
faf Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='Khadgam' timestamp='1357510274' post='1303063643'] Raasindi nene...vaadiki cheppukodaaniki past records ayina unnai...kaani my point is we are overlooking many non-performers...do you have a point to justy that? P.S: Don't pivot this in to fanatism debate. Its[b] true analysis[/b] on opening batsman. Not just Sehwag. [/quote] It's anything but True analysis bhayya,, In a team sport there are roles. the role of openers is to see off the new ball, and try and get to 10-15 overs at least. lately these qualities are highly compromised because of placid pitches and powerplays, batsmen tried to score of these first 10 overs even if they kept loosing wickets. That's when players like Sehwag excelled . But with new rules, 2 new balls they need be extra careful. Sehwag is clearly past his prime and i don't think he's got that hunger to score and prove himself anymore(It's only my personal feeling though). Look at AUS , M.Hussey was available for SL ODI matches but they didn't select him instead of him being the best batsman in their team(after Clarke). Just because they think there is no point in him playing. That's professional and in a team sport if someone is pulling you back you have to let go of them, there's no place for sentiments, and i can clearly see that's what driven you to write that analysis. P.S I too love to see Sehwag batting, every single match i hope India bats first just so that I can see Sehwag batting. But we have to terms with reality, and that is Sehwag is not good anymore, and he is not getting any better either.
girishv Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='Khadgam' timestamp='1357511022' post='1303063655'] I agree to red, but before that they should define a threshold for "performace", if you look at the avarages in Ind-pak series, pathetic......[color=#ff0000]then why only Sehwag[/color]. At least he has natural talent. My point again is more of a constructive critisism, [b]Captain should have tried Sehwag down the order, Sehwag also doesn't have any problem doing that[/b], as he said in the past [/quote] red.....why only sehwag ani endhuku antunnav? even zaheer is dropped, bajji eppudo dropped...then why are you saying that only openers are scrutinized ani....who would have thought few months back that B kumar n shami ahmed will be opening the attack for India.... bold.....batting order lo kinda pampisthe indirect ga oppukunatte kada...i'm not good enough as a opener ani....andhuke drop chesi vere opener ki chance icharu...
Khadgam Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='faf' timestamp='1357511266' post='1303063658'] It's anything but True analysis bhayya,, In a team sport there are roles. the role of openers is to see off the new ball, and try and get to 10-15 overs at least. lately these qualities are highly compromised because of placid pitches and powerplays, batsmen tried to score of these first 10 overs even if they kept loosing wickets. That's when players like Sehwag excelled . But with new rules, 2 new balls they need be extra careful. Sehwag is clearly past his prime and i don't think he's got that hunger to score and prove himself anymore(It's only my personal feeling though). Look at AUS , M.Hussey was available for SL ODI matches but they didn't select him instead of him being the best batsman in their team(after Clarke). Just because they think there is no point in him playing. That's professional and in a team sport if someone is pulling you back you have to let go of them, there's no place for sentiments, and i can clearly see that's what driven you to write that analysis. P.S I too love to see Sehwag batting, every single match i hope India bats first just so that I can see Sehwag batting. But we have to terms with reality, and that is Sehwag is not good anymore, and he is not getting any better either. [/quote] Thats the reason I said, they could have switched his opening role to middle order, until he regains his touch... Your analysis can only be true, when there is true bench strength/natural talent...but that's not case. Its not fare to compare to what Australians are doing...when we don't have resourses like them... Simple dropping won't help, give justification and future plans...
girishv Posted January 6, 2013 Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='Khadgam' timestamp='1357511783' post='1303063666'] Thats the reason I said, they could have switched his opening role to middle order, until he regains his touch... Your analysis can only be true, [b]when there is true bench strength/natural talent...but that's not case. Its not fare to compare to what Australians are doing[/b]...[b]when we don't have resourses like them...[/b] Simple dropping won't help, give justification and future plans... [/quote] boss emanna comedy aa? India lo bench strength ledu ante navvu vasthundi....that too batting lo...ippatiki players like rayudu, tiwari are warming the bench... zaheer ni drop chesthe ne kada B kumar vachindi...zaheer ni drop cheyakapothe asalu B kumar ane vadu okadu unnadu ani manaki thelusa? ippudu sehwag ni drop chesaru, vere batsman vasthadu...perform chesthe untadu...lekapothe pothadu, vadi place lo inkodu vasthadu....
Khadgam Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='30 yrs industry' timestamp='1357511442' post='1303063662'] red.....why only sehwag ani endhuku antunnav? even zaheer is dropped, bajji eppudo dropped...then why are you saying that only openers are scrutinized ani....who would have thought few months back that B kumar n shami ahmed will be opening the attack for India.... bold.....[b]batting order lo kinda pampisthe indirect ga oppukunatte kada...i'm not good enough as a opener ani....andhuke drop chesi vere opener ki chance icharu...[/b] [/quote] Bold not true...that's when a Captain should play a key role by thinking innovative, out-of-the box. And Harbajan, Zaheer...topic will be digressed...
Khadgam Posted January 6, 2013 Author Report Posted January 6, 2013 [quote name='30 yrs industry' timestamp='1357512127' post='1303063669'] boss emanna comedy aa? India lo bench strength ledu ante navvu vasthundi....that too batting lo...ippatiki players like rayudu, tiwari are warming the bench... zaheer ni drop chesthe ne kada B kumar vachindi...zaheer ni drop cheyakapothe asalu B kumar ane vadu okadu unnadu ani manaki thelusa? ippudu sehwag ni drop chesaru, vere batsman vasthadu...perform chesthe untadu...lekapothe pothadu, vadi place lo inkodu vasthadu.... [/quote] Adi nenu anatledu...BCCI antundi..see this from Cricinfo... [url="http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/34102.html"]Rohit Sharma[/url] was retained despite poor returns in ODIs of late. His last six scores were 5, 0, 0, 4, 4 and 4. Since the end of the series against West Indies in 2011, when he was the Man of the Series, Rohit has [url="http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/34102.html?class=2;spanmin1=5+feb+2012;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match"]averaged 13 over 14 matches[/url] with one half-century. Rohit escaped the axe primarily because of "[b]lack of alternatives"[/b].
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