Modi As Pm May Encourage Right-Wing Militancy

[fullmeals]

[quote name='powerstar02' timestamp='1366352359' post='1303631404']
ee mudddi gaadu PM avthadu ane brama lonchi epudu bayatakostaro janam...
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topic is not all about modi, it's more about hinduism

[narsayya]

[quote name='Khadgam' timestamp='1366351597' post='1303631358']
GP....Your remember the pm I sent you...no different again...
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yeah right I've some free time. anthe.

No hard feelings.

[Khadgam]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1366352676' post='1303631422']

yeah right I've some free time. anthe.

No hard feelings.
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haha..same here...anuko...

[narsayya]

[quote name='BobbyFischer' timestamp='1366350727' post='1303631309']

i have been told by so many intellectuals in this db that Communism is failed because of it's out dated principles....then Religion is much much older failure concept...neither they are giving up religion nor I have given up communism !


[color=#ffa500]who doesnt understand wat truly a religion says are not the true followers and dani peru paina chese extremisim ki religion ni blame cheyadam enduku.[/color]

Religion clearly created barriers among the people...where as communism did n't ! I am communist...I can live every where in this world...I request you Hindu ppl to go n live in Pakistan with performing all you religious activities ! Is it possible ?
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Who told you that any ideology is adopted based on the 'overall goodness' in it?

That happens only during times of absolute desperation. Which it is not today. People are doing well, living the good life, have an almost perfect political, financial system.

So they seek only slight changes, or iterations to suit their political agenda.

Ippudu nuvvu communism ante, nobody will care. because it benefits no one to totally overhaul the system.

Best thing to do, is to gather your thoughts and put it in a book. Perhaps 100 yrs from now, someone can use it to help spark revolution.

The thing about Communists, liberals, even to an extent Hindutvawaadis are they are all impatient and want to get everything done as fast as possible.

Muslims are a totally different breed, in that their philosophy is cruel towards non muslims. so they are left out of this discussion.

I also don't understand why communists equate Hindus and Muslims. Both are very different in the basic level.

[faf]

[quote name='Ukkumanishi' timestamp='1366349609' post='1303631235']
Dude asalu India lo evadu gelustadu anedi US control cheyyadam enti saami adi nuv ela support chestunnav.. vintuntene tellu jerrulu pakutunnai
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+1

[narsayya]

[quote name='BobbyFischer' timestamp='1366347870' post='1303631040']
WB lo Mamta malla dengipoddi le u dont worry gani...I always talk about communism , not communists ! Those who does n't practice communism are not true communists...I don't care about WB communist after Jothi Basu has stepped down from CM seat...

PS :- 2014 lo BJP vasthe ma face lu choodali antannav...ante 2009 lo congress vachinapudu nee face ki amudam raskunnava ? evadochina peekedi em ledu India ki...but , Manishi ni manishi nundi dooram chese fundamentalism ki am completely against and I believe Modi is good at promoting it!
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Nuvvu inka ekkuva chadavali.

read news items an year before 2011 WB assembly elections... you'll find how many trinamool congress workers were murdered, beaten, maimed by CPIM. That's the culture both in Kerala and WB.

jyoti Basu em chesadu? Land reforms implement chesadu, very studiously. What happened to crony capitalism under him? How many corporates have their base in WB thelusa aa time lo? They were among the richest. sahara, RPG, Mallya..

Mumbai ki next kolkata was the most happening place. full of crony capitalists. Recent years lo ne, they are slowly being driven out of Kolkata. Jyoti Basu promoted them, indirectly.

enno centuries ga, people have learnt to live together with their differences. Ippudu Marx gaadu ochi edo kotthaga kanukkuda, that ee differences are not good ani?

Let people live alone, or in groups. Any ideology that prevents them from doing it is fascist. I know Hinduism lets people live their way. Communism, and Islam doesn't. It forces people to accept their ideologies. Both of them are the same for me, to be avoided like the plague.

[BobbyFischer]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1366351355' post='1303631343']

The thing is, Modi's critics have run of issues to deride him.

First 2002 riots annaru, Supreme court managed investigation by SIT proved them wrong. Mari nuvvu Supreme court is corrupted ante, emi cheyyalemu. Supreme court in India is too independent of any political interference. So I believe their verdict.

Scams chesadu, Lokayukta pettaledu ani konni rojulu gabbu leparu. It became clear that the opposition in Gujarat was dragging its feet wantedly, so it can force the guj govt to accept governor appointed Lokayukta. The governor who's a congresswoman

Then Gujarat Malnutrition rate compare chesaru. Recent central govt reports prakaram, it has the highest rate of allievation of malnutrition.

Annitlo odi poyaru. No leader in India faced the kind of political attacks Modi did. And finally he came out unscathed.

Gujarat lo chaala problems unnayi. Vaati annitiki Modi kaaranam kaadu. Also akkada jarigina manchi annitiki Modi karanam kaadu.

He's just a politician, and like all others (including communists) lusts after power. That's how he can implement his agenda.

Vaadi agenda emi antava.. Clear chepthunnadu ga. Development without any discrimination ani.

Manchi infrastructure create chesi, good institutions create chesthe antha kante emundi.

He didn't come out of nowhere. He worked all around India as RSS man. He understands our people better than foreigners.

He still has to convince a lot of people that he's the best fit to lead India, but he's convinced me already.

You should be clear why exactly you oppose Modi.
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If you remember " For every action , there will be an equal and opposite reaction " statement..you might have known which side he has took !

[color=#ff0000]Supreme court managed investigation by SIT proved them wrong. Mari nuvvu Supreme court is corrupted ante, emi cheyyalemu. Supreme court in India is too independent of any political interference. So I believe their verdict[/color]

FYI...The victims have n't given up their fighting...case is not over yet !



Social activist Teesta Setalvad on Monday claimed there is "strong" evidence against Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, whom the SIT has given a clean chit in the post-Godhra riot case, in a complaint filed by Zakia Jafri, wife of slain ex-Congress MP Ehsan Jafri.

"We have many strong cases and evidence against many of the accused including accused number one (Modi)," Setalvad whose NGO called Centre for Justice and Peace (CJP) provides legal assistance to 2002 post-Godhra riot victims told reporters here.

She was responding to a question about the basis on which Zakia had filed a complaint alleging the complicity of Modi and others in the 2002 riots on which the SIT has filed a closure report, giving a clean chit to the accused.

"After the loss of almost an year, since the SIT has filed a closure report, we have provided all relevant materials. At this stage we can't divulge any further details about our protest petition," she said.

The press conference was called by the CJP to appraise the media on 'Landmarks In The 2002 Justice Process And The Roadmap Ahead'.

Setalvad also blamed SIT for the delay in trials of two major 2002 rioting cases at Gulberg society and Naroda Gaam, out of the nine cases which were investigated by the SIT under the Supreme Court's direction.

"Gulberg case trial is almost at the completion stage but SIT has challenged a trial court order, directing it to furnish all investigation documents before the court, in the High Court," she alleged, adding that because of this, the trial was held up.

She gave details of the present legal status of different rioting cases for which trials were being conducted before special courts under the direction of the apex court.

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Narasayya...do u believe what ever certified by Supreme Court as clean in India , is really clean ? Can't we manage the evidences here ?



[color=#ff0000]Vaadi agenda emi antava.. Clear chepthunnadu ga. Development without any discrimination ani.[/color]


lol...recent ga CAG point out chesindi Gujarat govt meeda choodaleda...development with out descrimination lo konni company la ke favour enduku jaruguthundo ! \\



[size=4][font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica][font=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]Gandhinagar, Apr 3, 2013 (PTI)

The Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG) has come down heavily on the Gujarat government and state Public Sector Undertakings for causing a loss of nearly Rs 580 crore to the exchequer by bestowing "undue" favours to large corporate entities.

The major industrial houses to whom the Narendra Modi government played the benefactor included Reliance Industries Ltd (RIL), Essar Steel and Adani Power Ltd (APL), the report for year ended March 31, 2012, said.

The government auditor's report, tabled in the state assembly yesterday, also said the state government tweaked rules to grant land to automaker Ford India and engineering and construction major Larsen and Toubro resulting in loss of revenue.

"Gujarat State Petronet Ltd (GSPL) was responsible for deviating from the agreed terms of recovery of gas transportation charges from the specified entry point of the company's pipeline network and this led to passing of undue benefit of Rs 52.27 crore to RIL," the report said.[/font][/font][/size]

[narsayya]

[color=#ff0000]If you remember " For every action , there will be an equal and opposite reaction " statement..you might have known which side he has took ![/color]

That speech was given 7 months after the riots, in Sep 2002. It is specified in the SIT report with evidence. So it was not the cause of the riots.


[color=#ff0000]FYI...The victims have n't given up their fighting...case is not over yet ![/color]

Yeah, I watched the "breaking news". Unfortunately, they lied on national TV that they have new evidence that Gujarat govt has claimed as destroyed. This is based on SIT interim report tabled on 2010. The final report submitted to Supreme court in 2012 has included that evidence (which means Guj govt has provided them to SIT) and is part of the investigation.

So their claim that some 'new evidence' is unearthed is a lie. Its an evidence already investigated by SIT and commented on in the report. You should read the report.

If SIT report has to be neglected and another investigated commissioned, then everyone convicted based on the SIT report will roam freely again. Including Maya Kodnani.


[color=#ff0000]Narasayya...do u believe what ever certified by Supreme Court as clean in India , is really clean ? Can't we manage the evidences here ?[/color]

On the other hand, SIT report clearly states that several evidences have been managed by Teesta Setelvad. Including the mythical woman who was raped and whose womb was cut off, and also rumours of bodies from Godhra taken in procession on Ahmedabad streets. SIT simply couldn't corroborate any of these incidents. and dispelled them as rumours. Court also admonished Teesta setelvad for lying in the court. There are news reports for all of these if you care to check.


[color=#ff0000]lol...recent ga CAG point out chesindi Gujarat govt meeda choodaleda...development with out descrimination lo konni company la ke favour enduku jaruguthundo ! \\[/color]

compared to the scale of scams in the opposite party, these sound like a joke. Modi is not hitler to force everyone to be honest. There is corruption in Gujarat, like everywhere in India. I've witnessed it, but basic services for citizens are available without any discrimination.

Ippudunna india paristhithullo antha kanna emi kavala.

[BobbyFischer]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1366354252' post='1303631487']

Nuvvu inka ekkuva chadavali.

read news items an year before 2011 WB assembly elections... you'll find how many trinamool congress workers were murdered, beaten, maimed by CPIM. That's the culture both in Kerala and WB.

jyoti Basu em chesadu? Land reforms implement chesadu, very studiously. What happened to crony capitalism under him? How many corporates have their base in WB thelusa aa time lo? They were among the richest. sahara, RPG, Mallya..

Mumbai ki next kolkata was the most happening place. full of crony capitalists. Recent years lo ne, they are slowly being driven out of Kolkata. Jyoti Basu promoted them, indirectly.

enno centuries ga, people have learnt to live together with their differences. Ippudu Marx gaadu ochi edo kotthaga kanukkuda, that ee differences are not good ani?

Let people live alone, or in groups. Any ideology that prevents them from doing it is fascist. I know [b]Hinduism lets people live their way. [/b]Communism, and Islam doesn't. It forces people to accept their ideologies. Both of them are the same for me, to be avoided like the plague.
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Hinduism lets people live their way...what a statement !

aauvula ni ( Cows) tinoddu ani cheppindi hinduism kada ? what about the rivalry b/w vaishnavas and shaivas which has taken lot of ppls lives ?

what about Nathuram Godsey ? Is n't he hindu extremist ? The case here is , not a comparison b/w Hindu with any other religion...the hatred feeling that any religion has planted in it's followers ! India , by country , did n't exist in the past , there were several kingdoms which practiced different kinds of worshipping methods in the religion...so they were never united like Muslims & Chiristians ( in these religions also there are branches , but the majority group was always the one in both the religions catholic & Sunnis )..that's why Hinduism in the history has remained as 'Peaceful religion'... caste la peru tho kottuku sasthunna Hindus extremists kakapotam enti bhayya ?

I do agree....CPM in WB in Jothi Basu's time has taken a turn on it's strategy about development and policies because they themselves are part of a democractic semi - capitalistic country ! When the states are dependant on Central Govt for several they can not simply implement their ideology...

[BobbyFischer]

[color=#b22222][b]SHABNAM HASHMI
FOUNDING & MANAGING TRUSTEE, ANHAD[/b][/color]

TEHELKA has always been a magazine that has stood by the marginalised of the country. [color=#b22222]We all knew that, along with Modi, several ministers had a direct role in the genocide – that some of them were in the police headquarters engineering the circumstances[/color]. TEHELKA did the same even in 2007 when it snatched the truth from the mass murderers like Babu Bajrangi himself. This report, now that it is out in the public domain, gives credibility to what we already knew. It proves false the clean chit given to Narendra Modi by The Times of India, a leading national daily. Plus, this is extremely important politically as it comes at a time when Modi is going out of his way to save his image and create a feeling that everything is hunky-dory in Gujarat. The Supreme Court has to take cognisance of the matter and Modi should be prosecuted. Even though I am sure the Supreme Court will, should it fail, I do not know what to think of Indian democracy.

[BobbyFischer]

TEESTA SETALVAD
SECRETARY, CITIZENS FOR JUSTICE AND PEACE

As always, I heartily congratulate TEHELKA for breaking the silent complicity of the other media on Modi’s involvement in the Gujarat genocide. As a co-complainant along with Zakia Jafri – widow of former Congress MP Ehsan Jafri – we feel extremely vindicated. All this while, the BJP and Narendra Modi went around claiming that there is no evidence to their involvement in the genocide. As is obvious from the TEHELKA story, there is a dire necessity of thorough investigation into the involvement of Modi and his men. Having said that, we have complete hope in the Supreme Court that it will see the valued observations – and not just facts – of the SIT report. For the sake of the victims of the Gujarat carnage, pinning the responsibility on the powerful people who were behind it will put an end to a culture of complicity without penalty. In this regard, the authorities should go beyond the preliminary investigations and actually register offenses.

[BobbyFischer]

[b][color=#b22222]ZAKIA JAFRI
WIDOW OF SLAIN FORMER CONGRESS MP EHSAN JAFRI[/color][/b]

Congratulations to TEHELKA for revealing something that we have struggled to tell the world all along. The SIT report is a vindication of all our efforts to tell the world what we suffered. [color=#ff0000]However, in the SIT interrogation, Modi has claimed that he did not get a call from (Ehsan) Jafri Saheb. It was in front of me that Jafri Saheb called Modi, begging for help. I saw with my own eyes what happened to him when he went downstairs to talk to the mobsters. It is high time we got justice for the dark memories we hold.[/color] The authorities concerned should take prompt steps towards providing justice to the victims of Gujarat 2002.


@ Narasayya...ante eevida kooda abaddalu chebthunnara Modi gurinchi ? Ex MP's wife...

[BobbyFischer]

[color=#b22222][b]RB SREEKUMAR
FORMER ADDITIONAL DGP (INTELLIGENCE)[/b][/color]

The media is getting excited about this SIT report for no reason. At the end of the day, what the report says is that the operation is a success, but the patient is dead. Raghavan’s report neither has the will or the teeth to call spade a spade. The six affidavits and more than 30 evidences to show the complicity of VHP and BJP members in the genocide have been ignored. This amounts to failure of the Indian state to provide justice for the victims of Gujarat 2002, which only acts as propaganda for Islamic radicals. Therefore, this is a bad omen. [color=#b22222]Modi and all other men who belong to the BJP and the VHP, who were either complicit or blatantly involved in the carnage, have to be brought to book. [/color]

[narsayya]

[quote name='BobbyFischer' timestamp='1366356174' post='1303631617']
[color=#b22222]ZAKIA JAFRI
WIDOW OF SLAIN FORMER CONGRESS MP EHSAN JAFRI[/color]

Congratulations to TEHELKA for revealing something that we have struggled to tell the world all along. The SIT report is a vindication of all our efforts to tell the world what we suffered. [color=#ff0000]However, in the SIT interrogation, Modi has claimed that he did not get a call from (Ehsan) Jafri Saheb. It was in front of me that Jafri Saheb called Modi, begging for help. I saw with my own eyes what happened to him when he went downstairs to talk to the mobsters. It is high time we got justice for the dark memories we hold.[/color] The authorities concerned should take prompt steps towards providing justice to the victims of Gujarat 2002.


@ Narasayya...ante eevida kooda abaddalu chebthunnara Modi gurinchi ? Ex MP's wife...
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DId you know that a Congressman MeghSingh CHowdary has been charged in murder of Gulbarg case? He was Ehsan Jafri's rival in the Congress. So this is conveniently pushed under the carpet and Modi blamed for everything.

Also Zakia Jafri initially praised Modi for swift action during the riots. And after a few days changed her version, and blamed him. Who was she coached by?

All this is mentioned in the SIT, with references. I don't think Zakia contested these in the court. So it is proved she's allowing herself to be used as a pawn in a political agenda. She shouldn't be taken seriously.

[BobbyFischer]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1366356644' post='1303631631']

DId you know that a Congressman MeghSingh CHowdary has been charged in murder of Gulbarg case? He was Ehsan Jafri's rival in the Congress. So this is conveniently pushed under the carpet and Modi blamed for everything.

[b]Also Zakia Jafri initially praised Modi for swift action during the riots. And after a few days changed her version, and blamed him. Who was she coached by?[/b]

All this is mentioned in the SIT, with references. I don't think Zakia contested these in the court. So it is proved she's allowing herself to be used as a pawn in a political agenda. She shouldn't be taken seriously.
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I can see this statement given by her is the one she has given under pressure ! Can't I ? manam ela kavalante ala choodochu brother oka situation ni...