tom brady Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='snowbabu' timestamp='1376890228' post='1304133088'] [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AMsU7YgeQuY/UYX9BJNIIRI/AAAAAAAAEVE/1_D6_xB_Se0/s1600/brahmi12.gif[/img] [/quote]etliccha [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AMsU7YgeQuY/UYX9BJNIIRI/AAAAAAAAEVE/1_D6_xB_Se0/s1600/brahmi12.gif[/img]
Truth_Believer Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 There was only diversity and never any unity anytime.just bcoz british won over our kings and created india to get control on administration doesnt mean we were united. Today people r just showing their true self by going back to pre british era (I.e. breaking into small pieces)
srikanthraparla Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='tom brady' timestamp='1376890413' post='1304133102'] etliccha [img]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AMsU7YgeQuY/UYX9BJNIIRI/AAAAAAAAEVE/1_D6_xB_Se0/s1600/brahmi12.gif[/img] [/quote] soofer [img]http://lh4.ggpht.com/-VC9UAsl0jkY/T9VVAKa-aCI/AAAAAAAAGo0/IrUGkLHXRt8/s150/PK-3.gif[/img]
narsayya Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 The strongest unifying factor for our country, its culture, also commonly called as Hinduism, is being mocked at, weakened at every turn. You can't expect anything but chaos, and indifference to anything else. Just be thankful we haven't turned out like kashmiri muslims who butchered and drove away the cowardly pandits. Or it may happen sometime in the future. The only difference is, muslims will fight back unlike Hindus, who'll settle down in the US/Canada and write blogs and whine about how awesome their childhood memories are. If you want something fight for it, or just shut up and mind your business. You have no business judging others.
narsayya Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='Believer' timestamp='1376890764' post='1304133120'] There was only diversity and never any unity anytime.just bcoz british won over our kings and created india to get control on administration doesnt mean we were united. Today people r just showing their true self by going back to pre british era (I.e. breaking into small pieces) [/quote] History matters diddly-squat here. The unity among Hindus is ethereal, something hard to understand for people who admire the unity that bears violence among Muslims and christians. Hindus just need to find a cultural voice to fight against injustices and not be ashamed of their history, which seculars like to remind Hindus again and again to put them down. Many of them who tried to conquer them have not succeeded, British and the Muslims.
god father Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1376892846' post='1304133199'] History matters diddly-squat here. The unity among Hindus is ethereal, something hard to understand for people who admire the unity that bears violence among Muslims and christians. Hindus just need to find a cultural voice to fight against injustices and not be ashamed of their history, which seculars like to remind Hindus again and again to put them down. Many of them who tried to conquer them have [b]not succeeded, British and the Muslims.[/b] [/quote] hahaha joke aa british ruled us for 200 years and as far as i know moghal empire has rules us from 1200bc to 1800bc roughly........ boss be proud you are a hindu but they are never united they are divided into several castes several sects ............so that only some castes/sects can rule them..............time has come and it has come to stay once this mentality is gone ........we Hindus will be the strongest power ..........and will not fear anyone!!!!
Truth_Believer Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1376892353' post='1304133188'] The strongest unifying factor for our country, its culture, also commonly called as Hinduism, is being mocked at, weakened at every turn. You can't expect anything but chaos, and indifference to anything else. Just be thankful we haven't turned out like kashmiri muslims who butchered and drove away the cowardly pandits. Or it may happen sometime in the future. The only difference is, muslims will fight back unlike Hindus, who'll settle down in the US/Canada and write blogs and whine about how awesome their childhood memories are. If you want something fight for it, or just shut up and mind your business. You have no business judging others. [/quote] Wow never seen u strong with words but whatever u have said is the truth. I always wished we got independence by the likes of bhagath singh.
narsayya Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='vickydada' timestamp='1376893712' post='1304133218'] hahaha joke aa british ruled us for 200 years and as far as i know moghal empire has rules us from 1200bc to 1800bc roughly........ boss be proud you are a hindu but they are never united they are divided into several castes several sects ............so that only some castes/sects can rule them..............time has come and it has come to stay once this mentality is gone ........we Hindus will be the strongest power ..........and will not fear anyone!!!! [/quote] I only meant, that our culture has lived through invasions spanning over several centuries. Whats wrong with being divided? What kind of unity it is that you are looking at? Do you think Muslims/ Xians are united? Try to learn more about them. Anyway Hindus can't be compared to other religions. At best as a cultural group sharing a few commonalities across regions. Say, like Europe, without the christianity.
narsayya Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Anyway to stick to the original topic, our culture is being mocked at, derided at home, and internationally. Naturally, people will revert to something they can hold on to strongly, which is caste, religion etc. no wonder, india is getting more and more intolerant. The only solution is to found a Hindu state. It doesn't mean Hindus have to be united. It only means they recognize the commonalities and build a system that's fair for everyone, including muslims, xians.
narsayya Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Anyway to stick to the original topic, our culture is being mocked at, derided at home, and internationally. Naturally, people will revert to something they can hold on to strongly, which is caste, religion etc. no wonder, india is getting more and more intolerant. The only solution is to found a Hindu state. It doesn't mean Hindus have to be united. It only means they recognize the commonalities and build a system that's fair for everyone, including muslims, xians.
god father Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1376893953' post='1304133224'] I only meant, that [b]our culture[/b] has lived through invasions spanning over several centuries. Whats wrong with being divided? What kind of unity it is that you are looking at? Do you think Muslims/ Xians are united? Try to learn more about them. Anyway Hindus can't be compared to other religions. At best as a cultural group sharing a few commonalities across regions. Say, like Europe, without the christianity. [/quote] our culture has gone through the test of time ..............and it has undergone many changes just in the matter of these 100years .................!!! Take any religion for that matter ...............it is and and it never had been as much as the hindu society divided into sects/castes upper and lower................india lo reservation system vachindi ante daniki karanam hinduism lo higher caste lower caste ane psuedo reality valla..................i do not want to pull this string longer as I have huge respect towards Hinduism and do not want to talk about the -ves we have done over the period!!
narsayya Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='vickydada' timestamp='1376894391' post='1304133234'] our culture has gone through the test of time ..............and it has undergone many changes just in the matter of these 100years .................!!! Take any religion for that matter ...............it is and and it never had been as much as the hindu society divided into sects/castes upper and lower................india lo reservation system vachindi ante daniki karanam hinduism lo higher caste lower caste ane psuedo reality valla..................i do not want to pull this string longer as I have huge respect towards Hinduism and do not want to talk about the -ves we have done over the period!! [/quote] you have no clue what you are saying. Whatever changes we went through, it will be a speck of dust, if we become united and start behaving like muslims and xians. It's the last thing hindus should want to become, to destroy their own individual traditions. reservation exists in many societies under different names. Not just among Hindus. Higher lower caste anedi pseudo reality na? Aithe what is the reality? That everyone's born equal? It's not possible unless in homogenous societies like northern europe. And certainly not possible for a huge number of people to be homogenous. It just doesn't make sense. Division is inevitable, and the only way the weak have a chance against the mighty. Again stop comparing other religions with Hindu culture. Btw, you might want to look up on how many different sects of Islam and Xianity exists. may be you accept the -ves of history, don't count me in. I don't accept any responsibility to whatever happened in history, because most of it is not true. Its better to look at the present, and recognize what has to be done. Hindus will evolve and form new groups, some old groups will be destroyed. Its the natural process. The only thing Hindus should not do is listen to people who claim to be secular, and fight for what they want, sometimes with violence if necessary especially when the Indian state refuses to support you.
Chitti_Robo_Rebuilt Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 Mana desham lo UNITY ki emi puttindi vayya... andaru unity ganey untaru... aakali meeda unnodiki annam kavaali vallu evaru unity desham politics ivanni alochincharu... work cheysukunnamaaa thinnamaa ani.. aa pedarikaanni ela pogottali ani thread vey vayya... or intention about region feeling aithey let me explain U.. verey grahala gurinchi discuss cheysey appudu mana earth antaamu next mana asia next mana country next mana south india next mana telugu people next mana state next mana dist. next mana village mana panchayathi mana colony mana house mana room... Ilaa ey manishiki ainaa common... north india velthey oka telugu vaadu kanipisthey .. ho mana telugu vaadu ani choostham kaani ey state thanu evaru elantodu ani choodamu kadha baa anthey.. evadikainaa ee feelings untay... antha mathraana unity ledu anadam correct kaadhu... UNITY aneydi situations batti choopincheydi ani naa feeling... ardam kaakapothey manninchuuuu ardameyy thappanukuntey kshaminchu.... [img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/4edf07f444d1c672a842a2fca4194e82/tumblr_mqiz99Clrl1spvnemo1_250.gif[/img][img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/4edf07f444d1c672a842a2fca4194e82/tumblr_mqiz99Clrl1spvnemo1_250.gif[/img]
paampachak Posted August 19, 2013 Report Posted August 19, 2013 [quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1376894252' post='1304133229'] Anyway to stick to the original topic, our culture is being mocked at, derided at home, and internationally. Naturally, people will revert to something they can hold on to strongly, which is caste, religion etc. no wonder, india is getting more and more intolerant. The only solution is to found a Hindu state. It doesn't mean Hindus have to be united. It only means they recognize the commonalities and build a system that's fair for everyone, including muslims, xians. [/quote] I don't think we need to establish a Hindu state. Hinduism is not being attacked but it is diluted by our own members. Hinduism forms the emotinal fabric to the world, I will explain like this, it may sound a bit absurd. There are four major elements that form life (Air, Fire, Water, Earth). Air is like Buddism and Jainism, Fire is like Islam, Water is like Hinduism and Earth is like Christianity. Coming to the topic, people have to understand India, Unity in Diversity is not what people see as. Rather proper Unity in Diversity is seen in USA rather than India. What Nehru did is a different thing, he want to keep the momentum of the feeling of being united going and with time many things diminish so is our feeling. The emotional fabric is already lost in the administrative system. India was build on great personalities prior to Independence, after Independence that inspiration lost like an orgasm. If India once again needs to be 'united', the emotional fabric needs to be rebuild into beuraucrats and politicians, just like USA how system follows discipline irrespective of how divided people seem to be
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