Ap Crisis A Pre-Planned Conspiracy?

[paampachak]

[quote name='salsa' timestamp='1381349451' post='1304382340']
As per you T is bacha sentiment ...
1.Then why YSR had to paly cheap tricks with bacha sentiments?
2.Y he had a alliance with that Bacha T sentimental guys
3. what he was doing while they prepared a Manifesto which states the Formation of T?
4. What he and Usaravalli were doing while Sonia was telling "memu telangananki kattubadi unnam" in Karimnagar meeting?


You said a Huge system and can you please name them?

Coming to CBN ...
1. Why he had given a letter in 2008 that we are ok to T?
2. Why had an alliance with KCR in 2009?
3. What he has done right after the decision was made on July 31st? He only asked for packege?
4. What he is doing now?

Last bust not least ... everybody used T sentiment as their Political growth and that Bacha Sentiment became a Big sentiment and ruined ROT.

I donot know how many people will accept it?
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You don't understand the meaning of Baccha sentiment here.. Tg is a viable sentiment but not viable to change YSRs power, he himself knows that he will keep the sentiment under his foot during his regime, so is Sonia or any other. You might have seen how TRS fell down as YSR left it.

CBN knows that same sentiment will get hime some votes and once again handled it. Just that's it .. no one was really serious to give a state that was not even there in their mind. That is a huge loss to AP itself. This is an open secret and that is the reason Seemandhra people never agitated over Tg issue till official announcement is made.

[JabardasthJakkanna]

[quote name='salsa' timestamp='1381349451' post='1304382340']
As per you T is bacha sentiment ...
1.Then why YSR had to paly cheap tricks with bacha sentiments?
2.Y he had a alliance with that Bacha T sentimental guys
3. what he was doing while they prepared a Manifesto which states the Formation of T?
4. What he and Usaravalli were doing while Sonia was telling "memu telangananki kattubadi unnam" in Karimnagar meeting?


You said a Huge system and can you please name them?

Coming to CBN ...
1. Why he had given a letter in 2008 that we are ok to T?
2. Why had an alliance with KCR in 2009?
3. What he has done right after the decision was made on July 31st? He only asked for packege?
4. What he is doing now?

Last bust not least ... everybody used T sentiment as their Political growth and that Bacha Sentiment became a Big sentiment and ruined ROT.

I donot know how many people will accept it?
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I would definitely accept your statement that T sentiment was used for their own political benefits. No doubt, by all parties, and by large by Congress.

But if we look at a bigger picture there is more to AP and our futures than T sentiment, I am from T. I know about the sentiment. I respect it. But we spoiled our future with all these agitations in right time. AP was blooming around 2004 with this introduction of T sentiment, it started taking different turns altogether, this is true, if anyone admits to it or not.

Now the situation has grown or stooped to such a level that our politicians are not only successful in dividing the land but also people.

[narsayya]

[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381349653' post='1304382375']


The main reason behind LTTE leader Prabhakaran's death is a big conspiracy by Indian Govt (congress - for obvious reasons) with the help of the then TN CM Karunanidhi with Srilankan govt to end Prabhakran's growing popularity among the Tamil Elam in Sri lanka. His popularity sometimes played against Karunanidhi's govt. They thought he might be a threat in future for their govt, as he enjoied big support from TN ppl.
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prabhakaran enjoyed big support from Tamil ppl? evaru chepparu neeku?

all the parties that took up the lankan agenda aggressively close to elections, failed in the elections. There's sympathy of lankan tamils in TN, but apart from a small minority of assols, LTTE doesn't enjoy huge patronage among Tamils.

[JabardasthJakkanna]

[quote name='TeluguPride' timestamp='1381348852' post='1304382237']
Punjabis and Tamils have an inherent feeling for being a separate nation. They are an aggressive civilization.
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Yep definitely, I would agree on the aggressive civilization part. I am not sure about punjab trying to be a separate nation. May be that started when punjab and haryana were divided or during sikh riots under Indira gandhi's reign.

[TeluguVeera]

[quote name='salsa' timestamp='1381349451' post='1304382340']
As per you T is bacha sentiment ...
1.Then why YSR had to paly cheap tricks with bacha sentiments?
2.Y he had a alliance with that Bacha T sentimental guys
3. what he was doing while they prepared a Manifesto which states the Formation of T?
4. What he and Usaravalli were doing while Sonia was telling "memu telangananki kattubadi unnam" in Karimnagar meeting?


You said a Huge system and can you please name them?

Coming to CBN ...
1. Why he had given a letter in 2008 that we are ok to T? T prajala sentiment gauravinchi.......
2. Why had an alliance with KCR in 2009? Most corrupted Congress govt ni edurkovadaniki tappala....
3. What he has done right after the decision was made on July 31st? He only asked for packege? if he oppose the decision, immediately TTDP will collapse in Telangana..Package is for development of SA region.
4. What he is doing now? To develop AP again, fighting with Congress

Last bust not least ... everybody used T sentiment as their Political growth and that Bacha Sentiment became a Big sentiment and ruined ROT.

I donot know how many people will accept it?
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[JabardasthJakkanna]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1381349971' post='1304382439']
prabhakaran enjoyed big support from Tamil ppl? evaru chepparu neeku?

all the parties that took up the lankan agenda aggressively close to elections, failed in the elections. There's sympathy of lankan tamils in TN, but apart from a small minority of assols, LTTE doesn't enjoy huge patronage among Tamils.
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This comes as a surprise for me. LTTE was always for the Tamils in SL, and they fought for a separate identity for the SL tamilians. I am not sure why wouldn't he njoi the patronage from Tamilians in TN.

May be I am missing something here, do u mind elaborating on this.

[narsayya]

[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381350117' post='1304382465']

Yep definitely, I would agree on the aggressive civilization part. I am not sure about punjab trying to be a separate nation. May be that started when punjab and haryana were divided or during sikh riots under Indira gandhi's reign.
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actually tamils are not aggressive at all. atleast not more than telugus are any other linguistic group across India..

you guys are talking as if they militated against India. Nothing such happened. LTTE killed Rajiv, and after that it lost popularity in Tamilnadu. That was the biggest mistake they made.

[TeluguVeera]

[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381349962' post='1304382434']
I would definitely accept your statement that T sentiment was used for their own political benefits. No doubt, by all parties, and by large by Congress.

But if we look at a bigger picture there is more to AP and our futures than T sentiment, I am from T. I know about the sentiment. I respect it. But we spoiled our future with all these agitations in right time. AP was blooming around 2004 with this introduction of T sentiment, it started taking different turns altogether, this is true, if anyone admits to it or not.

Now the situation has grown or stooped to such a level that our politicians are not only successful in dividing the land but also people.
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Correct.........Exactly

[salsa]

[quote name='arunachalam' timestamp='1381349855' post='1304382415']
You don't understand the meaning of Baccha sentiment here.. Tg is a viable sentiment but not viable to change YSRs power, he himself knows that he will keep the sentiment under his foot during his regime, so is Sonia or any other. You might have seen how TRS fell down as YSR left it.

CBN knows that same sentiment will get hime some votes and once again handled it. Just that's it .. no one was really serious to give a state that was not even there in their mind. That is a huge loss to AP itself. This is an open secret and that is the reason Seemandhra people never agitated over Tg issue till official announcement is made.
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You don't understand my last but one sentence... in politics chinnadi peddadi ani emi undadu.... situations batii bandlu vodalu avutayi.... vodalu bandlu avutayi... ee sametha mana AP ki APt ga set aythundi..... .. Anduke denini kuda encourage cheyakudadu... and discourage cheyakudadu... edi ekkada unchalo akkade unchali.....

[JabardasthJakkanna]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1381350274' post='1304382495']

actually tamils are not aggressive at all. atleast not more than telugus are any other linguistic group across India..

you guys are talking as if they militated against India. Nothing such happened. LTTE killed Rajiv, and after that it lost popularity in Tamilnadu. That was the biggest mistake they made.
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They did not and could not militate for a separate nation, but it's an open fact that they always demanded for a separate nation. I am not sure what's going today in TN.

[narsayya]

[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381350248' post='1304382487']
This comes as a surprise for me. LTTE was always for the Tamils in SL, and they fought for a separate identity for the SL tamilians. I am not sure why wouldn't he njoi the patronage from Tamilians in TN.

May be I am missing something here, do u mind elaborating on this.
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Once LTTE killed a former Indian PM, it lost any little sympathy it had across TN.

Just notice that the biggest party in TN is ADMK, which always has a higher vote share even when it loses in an election, never supports LTTE.

DMK has a smaller vote share, and has to depend on coalitions to get to power. Some nuts within DMK, and fringe parties support LTTE, and they never get elected. DMK gets elected sometimes because they have a great organization and cadre.

LTTE is a non-entity in TN.

[narsayya]

[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381350421' post='1304382526']


They did not and could not militate for a separate nation, but it's an open fact that they always demanded for a separate nation. I am not sure what's going today in TN.
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They are smart enough to realise that its pointless to militate. Its better to judge them by what they do, rather than what they intended to do long ago.

The demand for a separate nation ceased in 60s.

Plus India has always been a liberal and decent state, unlike idiot countries like Pak,Bangladesh, and Srilanka. Once it was agreed that hindi wouldn't be imposed, they settled down in India.

[salsa]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1381350274' post='1304382495']

actually tamils are not aggressive at all. atleast not more than telugus are any other linguistic group across India..

you guys are talking as if they militated against India. Nothing such happened. LTTE killed Rajiv, and after that it lost popularity in Tamilnadu. That was the biggest mistake they made.
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[quote name='JabardasthJakkanna' timestamp='1381350421' post='1304382526']


They did not and could not militate for a separate nation, but it's an open fact that they always demanded for a separate nation. I am not sure what's going today in TN.
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LTTE ki backup ichinde RAW from India.... and it played a vital role in Rajiv's assassination ....the most Horrible fact about LTTEs was it was the fisrt Terrorist group who planted MANOBOMB or Suicide bomber.

[paampachak]

[quote name='narsayya' timestamp='1381349829' post='1304382412']

hyd towards chennai na? what are you dreaming?

Hyd has 3 times more revenue than Chennai, better roads, infra, everything. The only thing Chennai has, is 3 awesome ports, plus a very talented workforce, most of them native tamils. Hyd has almost everything.. water, power, etc. Chennai is the only major metro that has a very serious water issue.

Can you name one project that chennai got at the expense of Hyd?
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[narsayya]

[quote name='salsa' timestamp='1381350736' post='1304382594']
LTTE ki backup ichinde RAW from India.... and it played a vital role in Rajiv's assassination ....the most Horrible fact about LTTEs was it was the fisrt Terrorist group who planted MANOBOMB or Suicide bomber.
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yeah, during Indira gandhi's time LTTE were having training camps in TN. It did have some popularity at that time across TN, it seems. But it evaporated once Rajiv Gandhi was killed.

Now only very few loud mouths talk about LTTE. and get press coverage. nobody cares about them